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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
Sat May 4, 2013, 08:52 PM May 2013

White House Rescinds $4.9 Billion in 2013 Spending Cuts

Source: Bloomberg.com

The Obama administration is canceling $4.9 billion of the $85 billion in automatic U.S. spending cuts that took effect March 1, a move that restores some funds for defense and diplomacy, according to a White House official.

The decision came after the administration determined that, under rules governing the automatic reductions, it had cut too much from some budgetary accounts for the current fiscal year, said the official, who asked not to be identified.

About $3.7 billion will be restored to the Pentagon’s budget with another $700 million going to the State Department, said the official. The remainder would be dispersed across a number of programs at other agencies.

<snip>
Democrats have said the automatic budget cuts would throw 70,000 children off the Head Start program, eliminate four million meals for seniors, take 600,000 people off a nutrition program for mothers and young children, and mean 125,000 fewer vouchers to help poor families pay for rental housing.



Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-04/white-house-rescinds-4-9-billion-in-u-s-spending-cuts-for-2013.html



Scorecard: Restored money to the FAA so the 1% and politicians wouldn't be inconvenienced at airports. Now we restore money to the Pentagon.

"Same as it ever was"
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White House Rescinds $4.9 Billion in 2013 Spending Cuts (Original Post) NeoConsSuck May 2013 OP
Meals On Wheels? DJ13 May 2013 #1
Afghanistan gussmith May 2013 #2
ever watch "charlie wilson's war"? madrchsod May 2013 #7
So only the poor and needy end up getting squeezed MotherPetrie May 2013 #3
Speaks to the kind of nation we are becoming. madfloridian May 2013 #24
my how christian of him..... madrchsod May 2013 #4
Methinks Obama fell asleep during Rev. Wright's sermons DerekG May 2013 #58
Was there ever any doubt that the Pentagon would get the money? zeemike May 2013 #5
I saw numerous DU posters who predicted/saw this coming, GoneFishin May 2013 #6
Aha! Newest Reality May 2013 #8
chances it will actually benefit WE THE PEOPLE? Skittles May 2013 #9
Don't worry ...the Pentagon is protecting our elderly ...from getting older. L0oniX May 2013 #51
Yep, definately waited to his second term to show his true colors. Arctic Dave May 2013 #10
! robinlynne May 2013 #12
Until every politician is tripping over themselves to get to the bottom of THIS boondoggle: magellan May 2013 #11
So, instead of just complaining on a message board.. Cha May 2013 #13
they don't care demwing May 2013 #14
Yes, they Do Care. I will not buy your Cha May 2013 #15
That's fine - I'm not selling their lack of care demwing May 2013 #18
If they "cared" we wouldnt have to sell them on helping those most vulnerable. It's obvious. rhett o rick May 2013 #22
90% wanted background checks and all the calling didnt doa damn thing leftyohiolib May 2013 #28
Just a bit of balance to the FAA issue Lordquinton May 2013 #19
Exactly, Lordquinton, it was not only passengers that were delayed that Cha May 2013 #20
What about the issue of food safety due to FDA cuts magellan May 2013 #38
Dupe delete magellan May 2013 #39
They know how we feel caseymoz May 2013 #34
Wrote RoJo and Ron Kind Lifelong Protester May 2013 #54
Hey...it's not like we did not see this coming. Right? *Crickets* Safetykitten May 2013 #16
Shit. nt Poll_Blind May 2013 #17
Chessmaster AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #21
No not, because cuts to the poor will be permanent. caseymoz May 2013 #23
Wait a minute! Unknown Beatle May 2013 #25
Only some. Igel May 2013 #40
The "left" has nothing to do with this. Le Taz Hot May 2013 #41
If we are so desperate to cut back..... Half-Century Man May 2013 #26
Obama's Hope And Change Is A Distant Memory - His Legacy - Compromise And Contrition For The 1% cantbeserious May 2013 #27
Why is everyone so freaked out?? This sounds like just an accounting issue. DCBob May 2013 #29
could you explain please or is it in the full article leftyohiolib May 2013 #30
its clearly in the article.. DCBob May 2013 #31
Interesting that Recalculaton were only Le Taz Hot May 2013 #42
He's the Commander in Chief of our Military. Congress is where you BlueCaliDem May 2013 #52
It's called the bully pulpit for a reason. Heywood J May 2013 #57
thanks for taking the time to respond ... what they said sounds like tap-dancing to me- leftyohiolib May 2013 #44
Bipartisanship Of, By & For the Military-Industrial-Complex, in this we trust. nt mother earth May 2013 #32
I wish this surprised me. Now watch it become permanent. Ruby the Liberal May 2013 #33
No shit? Seriously? MannyGoldstein May 2013 #35
I'm shocked like a electified hooded suspect in a foriegn hidden military torture room. L0oniX May 2013 #50
anyone with a brain knew the Pentagon would get their money back Doctor_J May 2013 #36
So predictable jsr May 2013 #37
Nothing for the poor people! santamargarita May 2013 #43
turns out he WAS playing 3d chess - on us leftyohiolib May 2013 #45
Why not $3.7 billion to the needy not to the Pentagon? Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #46
Everybody calm down! bvar22 May 2013 #47
Yea LMAO ...but then ...it's really not funny ...is it. L0oniX May 2013 #49
Selective austerity for the rich ...congressional MIC stock holders. L0oniX May 2013 #48
So military hard ons are bipartisan think May 2013 #53
WTF? Demeter May 2013 #55
Immoral and just plain sickening stuffmatters May 2013 #56
good, I don't want these budgets to be etched in stone. let them adjust within the 'rules' . Sunlei May 2013 #59
 

gussmith

(280 posts)
2. Afghanistan
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:08 PM
May 2013

I'm still burning to learn that money is slipped covertly to Karzai by the CIA. This is unconscionable when we have so many needs in the U.S. for scarce dollars. I am not opposed to some reparations for damaging Afghanistan but we need the money to be budgeted, dispensed by a known federal contracting agency, accounted for and have a finalization date of payment complete. No paying the potentate, pay a reputable billing system.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
7. ever watch "charlie wilson's war"?
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:29 PM
May 2013

if you have`t you should.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472062/

this is the woman who got the whole dam us government covertly involved in the afghanistan-russian war.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1571233/How-Joanne-Herring-won-Charlie-Wilsons-War.html

there is a tv program where charlie described what he did and how he did it. joanne herring was quite the woman.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
4. my how christian of him.....
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:16 PM
May 2013

feed and clothe those who have nothing? nah give the money to help kill for peace.

yup..."same as it ever was"



























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zeemike

(18,998 posts)
5. Was there ever any doubt that the Pentagon would get the money?
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:21 PM
May 2013

Let's get real, they rule us not the other way around...you get them pissed at you and you got real problems...old people and the poor not so much.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
6. I saw numerous DU posters who predicted/saw this coming,
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:24 PM
May 2013

That is, defense would get some relief from the sequester cuts.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
11. Until every politician is tripping over themselves to get to the bottom of THIS boondoggle:
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:34 PM
May 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021878929

...and to recant THIS one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022711551

...then I expect nothing more than the same disingenuous twaddle about "necessary spending cuts" and "shared sacrifice".

Cha

(296,889 posts)
13. So, instead of just complaining on a message board..
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:51 PM
May 2013

Are ya flooding Congress with your own complaints?

After being flooded with complaints from constituents, Congress voted April 26 to give the FAA more flexibility in administering the cuts to its budget, a move that ended the need for air-traffic controller furloughs.

Democrats have said the automatic budget cuts would throw 70,000 children off the Head Start program, eliminate four million meals for seniors, take 600,000 people off a nutrition program for mothers and young children, and mean 125,000 fewer vouchers to help poor families pay for rental housing.

What if everyone who cared about this called their Reps? I know I have.. and lucky me.. I have ones who understand and who wish more would get active for those who can't fend for themselves.
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
14. they don't care
Sat May 4, 2013, 10:20 PM
May 2013

they didn't care yesterday, they won't care tomorrow.

It's time for real democracy in America - are we not the Democratic Party?

We have a Republic, and it isn't good enough. Representatives can be too easily bought, they are the bottle neck of Democracy. Maybe this country does need a revolution--a Democratic Revolution.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
18. That's fine - I'm not selling their lack of care
Sat May 4, 2013, 11:24 PM
May 2013

anymore than the man who says "It is dark" is trying to sell the night.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
22. If they "cared" we wouldnt have to sell them on helping those most vulnerable. It's obvious.
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:35 AM
May 2013

They only care about the 1%.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
28. 90% wanted background checks and all the calling didnt doa damn thing
Sun May 5, 2013, 06:23 AM
May 2013

they didn't restore faa due to calls that was their excuse for helping themselves

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
19. Just a bit of balance to the FAA issue
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:13 AM
May 2013

Many will remember the last time we forced the flight controllers to be compromised, there were lots of plane crashes, it is a very real and valid safety concern.

However, starving children and seniors are also real and valid concerns too. Fortunately this isn't a zero sum game, and there is more than enough to go around, if they would be willing to actually do their jobs and make sure their people are taken care of.

Cha

(296,889 posts)
20. Exactly, Lordquinton, it was not only passengers that were delayed that
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:19 AM
May 2013

needed to be addressed. More importantly were the Safety Issues.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
38. What about the issue of food safety due to FDA cuts
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:39 AM
May 2013

...and the threat to seniors now going without the only meal they could rely on each day?

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
34. They know how we feel
Sun May 5, 2013, 08:43 AM
May 2013

We have called; they are ignoring us. Then they are making sure we blame ourselves as you just did by not reporting any of it.

Let's get this straight; it's when people with money call that Congress moves. They look at our zip codes.

Not only are they ignoring our calls, they taking measures to make sure we don't get to vote.

You seem to think this "class war" is metaphorical. No, it's real, and there's one side doing the fighting and the other doing the losing.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
54. Wrote RoJo and Ron Kind
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:49 PM
May 2013

I may only be able to sit here at a keyboard, but I will use it to do what I can.

Kind will listen. RoJo doesn't give a fig. But I intend to let him know how I feel anyway. They need to feel the blow-back.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
23. No not, because cuts to the poor will be permanent.
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:34 AM
May 2013

What do you want to bet that the sequester was a trick to cut funds for the 99 percent all along? Repubs now have no reason to vote to return funding to pre-sequester level. They've gotten what they wanted: cuts without raising taxes.

And if I were to be charitable, I'd say President Obama has totally lost his shirt in this game, and has handed them ours, too. If I weren't to be charitable, I'd say he was in on the deception all along.

Not the same as it ever was. Things just got considerably worse.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
25. Wait a minute!
Sun May 5, 2013, 04:54 AM
May 2013

Do you mean that the Obama administration can cancel cuts that took effect on March 1 but did nothing that could help the poor and elderly? Well fuck me! Whodathunkit?

Left and right are blending into "Let's fuck 'em all."

Reminds me of a joke I heard in the movie "Colors".

A bull and his son, a little bull, are standing at the top of a hill looking at some cows grazing below in a field. The little bull tells his dad, "Lets run down there and fuck some cows!" The dad bull responds, "Son, let's just take our time and walk down there and fuck them all."

Well, the politicians are taking their time but eventually they're going to fuck us all. They started when reagan was elected.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
40. Only some.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:47 AM
May 2013

The ones that they now say they shouldn't have made.

They were told to cut a certain percentage. They cut too much. Now they'r "uncutting" what they should never have cut.

It's their way of saying, "Oops. Let's just undo the mistake."

The reason for not putting it that way is it meant at least some of the required cuts imposed by Congress that they said were so draconian and brutal were, well, not required and not imposed by Congress.

Quite different from "more flexibility" to shift money between budget accounts--which is what a lot of people assumed the FAA (and other agencies) already had. There were proposals to give that kind of flexibility to other agencies or to the Executive as a whole to manage cuts within any budget category. Lots of people didn't want that because it would shift political blame and accountability in the wrong direction. The less flexibility they had (or in a few cases said they had), the more the blame for the cuts fell on Congress. Part of this is actual policy. Part of this is just political point scoring.

So the FAA got the flexibility to shift monies around. It's not at all clear that this would help most social programs.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
41. The "left" has nothing to do with this.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:53 AM
May 2013

We're talking the right (Democrats) and the Far right (Republicans). There are all of 3 "lefties" in the whole of Washington and they're not anywhere near this.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
26. If we are so desperate to cut back.....
Sun May 5, 2013, 05:07 AM
May 2013

How about we stop paying Congressional salaries and benefits (all medical, travel, and retirement) until such time as the an economic compromise can be worked out. Or until a special ballot can be prepared, one which would put to national vote the issues of which programs to cut, and who's taxes are at a correct level.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
31. its clearly in the article..
Sun May 5, 2013, 07:16 AM
May 2013

"The decision came after the administration determined that, under rules governing the automatic reductions, it had cut too much from some budgetary accounts for the current fiscal year, said the official, who asked not to be identified."

"The change was made after the White House Office of Management and Budget completed recalculations based on legislation to fund government operations for the rest of fiscal 2013 that was signed by President Barack Obama on March 26."

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
42. Interesting that Recalculaton were only
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:13 AM
May 2013

applicable to the Pentagon budget and not Meals on Wheels or Head Start.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
52. He's the Commander in Chief of our Military. Congress is where you
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:05 PM
May 2013

should direct your gripes about cuts to Meals on Wheels, education, and other civilian programs. Let's try to keep things in perspective, shall we? Once again I find myself having to remind passionate Liberals - the President is NOT a dictator or king, he doesn't have a magic wand, and it's not his job to make Congress behave. It's ours. Congress, not the Executive Branch, is the most powerful branch of the three in our government especially when it comes to civilian issues.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
44. thanks for taking the time to respond ... what they said sounds like tap-dancing to me-
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:18 PM
May 2013

cut too much no numbers just too much AND from anonymous sources. just sounds like b.s. - like saying they had to restore faa funds b/c they got a flood of calls to their offices\. ya know what else they cut "too much" out of? the social programs so the rush to restore them must be coming in any time now

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
33. I wish this surprised me. Now watch it become permanent.
Sun May 5, 2013, 08:36 AM
May 2013

1% isn't inconvenienced, MIC gets to keep on keeping on, and roads, bridges, parks all fall into disarray while children are out of school and on the streets, elderly aren't getting their meals and medical care and the unemployed just have to 'bootstrap' up.

Well played, white house.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
36. anyone with a brain knew the Pentagon would get their money back
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:11 AM
May 2013

While head start and meals on wheels would get stiffed. Obama has become a disgrace.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
47. Everybody calm down!
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:47 PM
May 2013

After President Obama gets re-elected in 2012,
and he doesn't have to worry about the Media or the Republicans,
we will get to see the REAL Obama.

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