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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sun May 5, 2013, 09:57 AM May 2013

Glenn Beck at NRA Rally - "Freedom of All Mankind is at Stake"

Source: ABC.com

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/glenn-beck-nra-rally-freedom-mankind-stake/story?id=19111583&google_editors_picks=true

Television and radio host Glenn Beck warned NRA members that the "freedom of all mankind is at stake" and the "right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

"They want to fundamentally transform our country and they've just about finished the project," Beck told an audience of thousands Saturday evening at the NRA convention's Stand and Fight Rally in Houston, Texas. "They feel they must regulate us until we comply, but I will not comply."


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/glenn-beck-nra-rally-freedom-mankind-stake/story?id=19111583&google_editors_picks=true



How much bigger can your gun get Glenny?
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Glenn Beck at NRA Rally - "Freedom of All Mankind is at Stake" (Original Post) LiberalElite May 2013 OP
Hell would be too good for the likes of Charlatans like Beck... n/t hlthe2b May 2013 #1
The tragic heartbreak of Republicans lost in the realm of fear Berlum May 2013 #2
We laugh and make jokes pangaia May 2013 #3
Armed and extremely dangerous. nm AmericanLoudspeaker May 2013 #5
ohhh heaven05 May 2013 #27
Beck, Palin, Santorum, Jindal and Possibly Ted Nugent. dballance May 2013 #4
That would eliminate him then. hobbit709 May 2013 #6
Of course! Newest Reality May 2013 #7
Is Beck back on cocaine? SHRED May 2013 #8
Is The Tea Party Actually The NRA Party DallasNE May 2013 #9
This should tell you that you're right on... jmowreader May 2013 #39
I'm in the NRA and I hate all the speakers and the Tea Party, oldbanjo May 2013 #40
Another grifter like Sarah Palin - but more dangerous Faygo Kid May 2013 #10
Glenn Beckkk is ready to fight! another_liberal May 2013 #11
Leading the charge from the rear! tanyev May 2013 #21
Beck backed off after the law talked to him, oldbanjo May 2013 #41
Not as bad? another_liberal May 2013 #47
Nothing Glenn Beck utters should be sufrommich May 2013 #12
Actually, that's... FiveGoodMen May 2013 #48
LiberalElite Diclotican May 2013 #13
IMHO there's always been some right-wing paranoids LiberalElite May 2013 #20
LiberalElite Diclotican May 2013 #24
Obama has done a lot of good for the American people but no one oldbanjo May 2013 #42
oldbanjo Diclotican May 2013 #49
I'm glad the NRA invited Beck to speak magellan May 2013 #14
Unbelievably stupid Beck and the NRA jybarz May 2013 #15
"freedom of all mankind"? AlbertCat May 2013 #18
Well that makes sense Turbineguy May 2013 #16
You need a gun to protect youself from oldbanjo May 2013 #43
meladramatic there much, Glenn. geez these people are suckers ZRT2209 May 2013 #17
well TNNurse May 2013 #19
mmhmm... davidthegnome May 2013 #22
Yet another fervent supporter of the Truncated Second Amendment. DavidDvorkin May 2013 #23
Is Frank Luntz writing ABC's captions? madamesilverspurs May 2013 #25
what heaven05 May 2013 #26
Thanks for posting this. red dog 1 May 2013 #28
yr wlcm - LiberalElite May 2013 #38
so much for you being a law-abiding citizen, huh, Glenn.....? lastlib May 2013 #29
One of Glenn's fans tried to start the war a bit too early RandiFan1290 May 2013 #30
Yes, Glen, RESIST. Volaris May 2013 #31
what the hell is he talking about? n/t EC May 2013 #32
Well... Bigredhunk May 2013 #33
Legal definition of sedition JackHughes May 2013 #34
Time to face it, Glenn. SwankyXomb May 2013 #35
He is crazy enough but he has been warned by the Law. oldbanjo May 2013 #44
I don't think that "all mankind" would include Glenn Beck. olddad56 May 2013 #36
Here's a link below to 15 of the 2013 NRA convention speeches Tx4obama May 2013 #37
What he really means is freedom of White Man kind nt auburngrad82 May 2013 #45
Someone recently posted the question, "what makes a gun-nut? LanternWaste May 2013 #46

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
2. The tragic heartbreak of Republicans lost in the realm of fear
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:05 AM
May 2013

Kinda pathetic to witness Republican Totalitarians so saturated with fear & hate. Is this really the best they have to offer? Sheesh. No wonder they get no respect.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
3. We laugh and make jokes
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:07 AM
May 2013

about these people. Draw cartoons and snicker.
But I believe they are really, really dangerous.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
4. Beck, Palin, Santorum, Jindal and Possibly Ted Nugent.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:08 AM
May 2013

What an all-star line up of assholes and idiots. I bet Beck's and Palin's speaking fees just aren't what they used to be though.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. Of course!
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:13 AM
May 2013

Beck takes the cake when it comes to throwing significant investigation into any deliberate and concerted efforts by organizations and groups into a bag of crazy in order to obscure, diffuse and distract and marginalize any bona fide discussion in the mainstream on those topics.

Limbough has some good company with Jones and Beck, et al. In fact they have a base that might be easily absorbed into other agendas over time. Meanwhile, many people are becoming prone to relegating what is not official, mainstream or Status Quo to the whacky bag of popular, wacky-bag, egotistical authoritarians, (who become quite wealthy at their craft).

It works so well that both Orwell and Huxley, if they were alive today, could write some interesting sequels to their seminal books on the subject.

Manufacturing the consent of millions of people and influencing their thinking, choices and opinions is a massive effort and a even a science these days. Edward Bernays was so good at kick-staring that phase of mass manipulation that we may very well be living in his dream.

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
9. Is The Tea Party Actually The NRA Party
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:27 AM
May 2013

At this convention I can see zero degrees of separation between the two. And doesn't this run a good deal of risk of losing membership by broadening issues they go after because right now their membership agrees on one issue and when you bring in additional issues you will turn off some current members. Has victory on the background check bill gone to their head and now they think they can rule the world? I smell overreach on the part of the NRA.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
40. I'm in the NRA and I hate all the speakers and the Tea Party,
Mon May 6, 2013, 05:36 AM
May 2013

one day I will get out, that day is getting close.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
10. Another grifter like Sarah Palin - but more dangerous
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:29 AM
May 2013

I have read numerous articles lately about small town (or counties) where elected officials (!) buy into Beck's paranoid conspiracy theories. He's dangerous, and will eventually cause violence, which I think is his goal. That, and $$$.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
47. Not as bad?
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:31 PM
May 2013

Like a mild case of Ebola Fever, perhaps?

I'm still not holding my breath for a retraction.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
12. Nothing Glenn Beck utters should be
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:41 AM
May 2013

treated as "breaking news". We might as well consider "crazy guy yells at cloud" breaking news too.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
48. Actually, that's...
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:41 PM
May 2013

"Crazy guy with a mass-media presence and millions of adherents yells at cloud. How will his followers respond?"

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
13. LiberalElite
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:46 AM
May 2013

LiberalElite

Scary stuff indeed - how long it take before a group or more, is making a go, for a more aggressive policy against official elected - that be the local sheriff - or state level officials - not to say Federal officials, like FBI. ?

In most of Europe, people like Glenn Beck, would have been closed up in a mental hospital, and given medical need - not given free air time on public airwawes... He is nuts - but if enough belief he is sane - they might do more than just listen to him...

And as studies have shown - 44 percent of americans believe a armed insurgencies is something that might be needed - most of them no doubt Republicans... So it is absolutely a possibility that things would go ugly in the near future...

All this because the Republicans lost the presidency in 2008?.. or have it being going on for a long time this madness - but after Obama got elected, really making its way up to the surface for everyone to se ?

Diclotican

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
20. IMHO there's always been some right-wing paranoids
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:40 AM
May 2013

like the John Birch Society but it's gotten worse with the help of rightwing corporate talk radio and the internet. - oops I almost forgot - and Koch Brothers money.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
24. LiberalElite
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:16 PM
May 2013

LiberalElite

I agree - it have always been a small group of right wing paranoids who believe the worst - but they have until the hate-talk radio and corporate Hate radio for the most part be the fringe - who was just talking to the woods - and to their own... But the use of outright hate-radio in the US, in the AM band, have really managed to step up the message - to hate "the others" regardless of how nuts it sounds.... And people is selling into the hate radio - and the message from the far right - helped by billionaires like Koch and co. (Who by the way, is rumored to have some family ties to another Koch Karl-Otto Koch - who was commander of the KZ camp Buchenwald, and who was one of the more brutal commanders of a rather unpleasant KZ camp.. Even though it have never been proven anything - the connections between them - and the Koch's in Germany have always been floating in the background somehow... Maybe just an accident - but still.. The wife of Karl Otto Koch was rumored to use the skinn of killed KZ slaves - who had tattoes she liked - made into lamps and given as gifts to friends and "allieds" in nazi-germany.... Ilse Koch was in many cases, worse than her husband, who was no lightwighter in the nazi-ideology either...

Diclotican

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
42. Obama has done a lot of good for the American people but no one
Mon May 6, 2013, 05:43 AM
May 2013

wants to give him credit. All because he is black.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
49. oldbanjo
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:05 PM
May 2013

oldbanjo

I think if President Obama turned the world upside down - and managed to make world peace for all mankind - many would never give him any credit - becouse he is not a white man... Or becouse he is a democrat and not a republican....

Diclotican

jybarz

(34 posts)
15. Unbelievably stupid Beck and the NRA
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:12 AM
May 2013

are having a conference with their just as stupid gun nuts.

"freedom of all mankind"?
Can't this guy make a much bigger hyperbole than this?
If he didn't cry saying this, I won't believe him.

Turbineguy

(37,383 posts)
16. Well that makes sense
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:17 AM
May 2013

after all, there are still many millions, perhaps even billions of people who do not own an assault weapon with a 100 round magazine. They need to be sold one (at least).

TNNurse

(6,931 posts)
19. well
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:36 AM
May 2013

If you believe that Glenn Beck gives one rat's ass about mankind....well, there really is no help for you....

madamesilverspurs

(15,813 posts)
25. Is Frank Luntz writing ABC's captions?
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:41 PM
May 2013

NRA convention "under siege" by anti-gun protesters -- really? REALLY? Under seige? A couple dozen unarmed people with signs vs a stadium full of well-armed gun lovers, gee I can certainly understand why the gun folks are feeling so attacked. Not.

RandiFan1290

(6,258 posts)
30. One of Glenn's fans tried to start the war a bit too early
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:37 PM
May 2013
http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/10/11/progressive-hunter/171471

Williams "stated that his intention was to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU."

Volaris

(10,275 posts)
31. Yes, Glen, RESIST.
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:42 PM
May 2013

And see how well that works out for you. I would be happy to come visit you in prison, or leave flowers of your tombstone, if it happens that you bite off more than you can chew.

Asshat.

Bigredhunk

(1,351 posts)
33. Well...
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:47 PM
May 2013

Cry'y Crierson has a book to sell (some stupid shit about gun control being about control of the people or something), so there's that. When does he open his city and go away already?

JackHughes

(166 posts)
34. Legal definition of sedition
Sun May 5, 2013, 03:28 PM
May 2013

From Wikipedia

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically, sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. Someone recently posted the question, "what makes a gun-nut?
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:50 AM
May 2013

Someone recently posted the question, "what makes a gun-nut?

Well... here is another part of the nuttiness.

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