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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:21 PM May 2013

Republican Leaders Refuse To Make Appointments To Key Obamacare Panel

Source: Talking Points Memo

The top two Republicans in Congress informed President Obama on Thursday that they will refuse to fulfill their duty under the Affordable Care Act to recommend members of a new board with the power to contain Medicare spending.

In a letter to President Obama, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) noted their original opposition to Obamacare, reiterated their intent to repeal it entirely, and declared that they would not make any appointments to the Independent Payment Advisory Board.

The IPAB is a 15-member panel whose members must be confirmed by the Senate. The President selects three members himself and is required by law to seek three recommendations each from the top Democrat and Republican in each chamber. With Thursday’s letter, Boehner and McConnell refused to make any recommendations.

“Because the law will give IPAB’s 15 unelected, unaccountable individuals the ability to deny seniors access to innovative care, we respectfully decline to recommend appointments,” Boehner and McConnell wrote in the letter.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/boehner-mcconnell-letter-obama-ipab-obamacare.php

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Republican Leaders Refuse To Make Appointments To Key Obamacare Panel (Original Post) Redfairen May 2013 OP
Then fucking quit you idiots. tridim May 2013 #1
Turns out there is a silver lining one way or another: Veilex May 2013 #4
THANKS for finding this, Veilex. elleng May 2013 #13
Anytime :) Veilex May 2013 #18
"respectfully decline" LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2013 #5
You got it!! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #12
So if I read that right... Veilex May 2013 #2
Actually, it's better than that for Obama. jeff47 May 2013 #17
Folks, it is getting worse.. pangaia May 2013 #3
Help me spread the word to demand COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (CCFR)! Dustlawyer May 2013 #7
Sounds like SCOTUS needs to get involved. GeorgeGist May 2013 #6
More from the article OKNancy May 2013 #8
I SO hate these SoapBox May 2013 #9
Soooooooo therefor, Iliyah May 2013 #10
They are fronting for a health insurance lobbyist already putting ads out to scare seniors. freshwest May 2013 #11
who votes warrprayer May 2013 #14
Begin the Impeachment bucolic_frolic May 2013 #15
K&R to shine the light on Kochroaches Cha May 2013 #16
2014, Folks. VOTE the bums out of office. And continue to do so in 2016, 2018, & 2020 judesedit May 2013 #19
 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
4. Turns out there is a silver lining one way or another:
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:44 PM
May 2013
But there is a catch: if IPAB fails to do its work for any reason, the Health and Human Services secretary must order the cuts herself. So in a way, Boehner and McConnell are surrendering some of their power in order to appear as though they’re thwarting Obamacare — when in reality they’re merely turning over more control to the executive branch.
5. "respectfully decline"
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:45 PM
May 2013

This is a polite way of saying, "fuck you, n*****!" This (in)action falls in the category of the petulant child crying and stomping their feet because they didn't get their way. Obama will not get a win, even if it benefits the American people.

Flip-flop. The Democrats "respectfully decline" to appoint members required for a board necessary to carry out a law they don't support, but which had passed anyway. Do the Republicans accept this quietly? Do we even need to think about what their response would be?

 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
2. So if I read that right...
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:39 PM
May 2013

"The President selects three members himself and is required by law to seek three recommendations each from the top Democrat and Republican in each chamber." means, he has done his part, does it not? Should he not be able to make a choice being that the republicans have abstained from offering a recommendation? To me, abstaining IS a recomendation...even if a lack of one. So he should be able to nominate somone... at least thats how it seems to me.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. Actually, it's better than that for Obama.
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:22 PM
May 2013

If the board isn't staffed, the HHS secretary acts as a one-person board.

Basically, Captain Orange and the Turtle just gave Obama more power by refusing to follow the law.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
3. Folks, it is getting worse..
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:42 PM
May 2013

and much faster. It has become a geometric increase in insanity-- refusals to act responsibly, armed carry march on DC. Blocking anything Obama does, the Bengazi nonsense, attacking liberal leaning people for hating Murika, impeachment jabbering,..we all know the long, long list.

It is very serious, and serious NOW, at least from what I can see.
I was 37 when reagan was first elected so have been around at least to see what started then, or even earlier....drip, drip drip,,, faster drips... trickle(and NOT trickle down), spurts, steady stream, gushing, and it is now a deluge.
The G-forces from the acceleration are close to being beyond what a human being can stand...

If it isn't stopped right now, I think it will never be stopped and we are finished as a 'representative democracy.' Well, maybe that is finished all ready.

Positive encouragement welcome......



Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
7. Help me spread the word to demand COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (CCFR)!
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:55 PM
May 2013

This is the only way short of revolution to get our Representative Democracy back!

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
8. More from the article
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:01 PM
May 2013

reposting post #4 plus some more:

But there is a catch: if IPAB fails to do its work for any reason, the Health and Human Services secretary must order the cuts herself. So in a way, Boehner and McConnell are surrendering some of their power in order to appear as though they’re thwarting Obamacare — when in reality they’re merely turning over more control to the executive branch.

“Under the ACA, if the IPAB fails to make a recommendation as required under the IPAB provision, the Secretary may make a recommendation in its place,” said Tim Jost, a professor of health law at Washington and Lee University. “So if no IPAB is created, it is not fatal.”

IPAB is, however, capable of functioning without all of its members confirmed. But the letter reflects a continuation of broader GOP obstruction of Obamacare implementation. Senate Republicans have suggested that they may filibuster any IPAB nominee, period.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. Soooooooo therefor,
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:45 PM
May 2013

the members who accept the positions are entitled for make the changes, cuts, et al., and the GOPers will have no input in it and cannot stop them when done, right? In other words, the GOPers have waived their part of participation.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. They are fronting for a health insurance lobbyist already putting ads out to scare seniors.
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:48 PM
May 2013
Just the latest of their Death Panel memes.

“Because the law will give IPAB’s 15 unelected, unaccountable individuals the ability to deny seniors access to innovative care, we respectfully decline to recommend appointments,” Boehner and McConnell wrote in the letter.

They are telling seniors Obama will take away their prescription drugs, when it's about making it cheaper. The ad encourage them to call against this panel.


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