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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:09 PM May 2013

Pew: Hispanics Overtake Whites In College Enrollment

Source: TPM

IGOR BOBIC 3:50 PM EDT, THURSDAY MAY 9, 2013

Hispanic high school graduates enrolled in college at a higher rate than whites for the first time ever, according to U.S. Census data analyzed by the Pew Research Center.

Sixty-nine percent of Hispanic graduates enrolled in college in fall of 2012, compared to 67 percent of white high school graduates who did so. Pew suggests that the 2007 economic recession may be one reason that explains the shift in Hispanic enrollment.

It is possible that the rise in high school completion and college enrollment by Latino youths has been driven, at least in part, by their declining fortunes in the job market. Since the onset of the recession at the end of 2007, unemployment among Latinos ages 16 to 24 has gone up by seven percentage points, compared with a five percentage point rise among white youths. With jobs harder to find, more Latino youths may have chosen to stay in school longer.

Despite the historic mark, Hispanic students are less likely to enroll in a four-year college, less likely to attend college full-time and less likely to finish their degree, Pew notes.

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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
1. Oops! Don't tell Jason Richwine of the Heritage Foundation, he'll be upset.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:18 PM
May 2013

And sorry, but with a name like that, I guess we can't expect much. Really? Rich - Whine? Living up to that, anyway.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
5. Does Anyone Think They've Been Inspired
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:45 PM
May 2013

by our President?

I do.
No president in my lifetime has ever talked about college and the importance of education than President Obama.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. He has been tirelessly uplifting on that point. He knows the future and wants Americans to be in it.
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:23 PM
May 2013

GetTheRightVote

(5,287 posts)
6. I have atleast one reason why...there are probably others too
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:48 PM
May 2013

An American student can not attend school until they are 24 years of age due to the fact that they can not get student loans until that age. Most students who are of a lower or medium income background are expected to get their parents to pay their way thru college when the parents more then likely can not afford it. I have run into this problem with my own 3 children so I know that it is a fact. Our country does not wish for our America born children to get higher educations and it simply burns my a-s-s that they, my children, are being treated in this way. They have been shut out of the educational system!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. You know what?
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:24 PM
May 2013

You're a racist. First or all your assumption that Latinos are not "American students" is disgusting. And your assumption that white students are now victims is also disgusting.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
10. Both my children have college loans and they are younger than 24.
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:12 PM
May 2013

Where is this information that "American" students can't get college loans until they are 24? I've never heard of such a thing.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
11. Yeah, everything's always some impoverished brown person's fault, right?
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:21 PM
May 2013

Everybody know rich white guys are incapable of doing anything wrong...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. Americans can't get in until they're 24? I'll have to call students in my area attending at age 18,
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:10 PM
May 2013
all of them are as you say, 'American born' and some are even younger than 18 and tell them this 'fact.'

None are minorities. You seem to be concerned about them on your other thread today:

You may wish to spit in my face, do you believe in a fair playing field for all, then read please...

Last edited Sat May 11, 2013, 02:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
a little about myself first...I am a Democrat and I have basically forced my children to be so by threatening them with my silence if they were to ever even image voting for the dark side, lol. I have donated to every Democratic member and group whenever I could afford to do so. I volunteered and knocked on doors to get Pres. Obama back into office again for a second term. I completely believe in the left spectrum of our political system with all my heart.

BUT...I believe even more so in our principals and belief system of government even more. I lead my children by this example so I must do the right thing at all times to be their guiding light.

My sister made a statement to me recently that stopped me in my tracks. She said, "Legal or not, does it matter, they are getting your party the votes they need to stay in office. Isn't that all that matters to you and your Democrats?"

As a thinking human being I had to accept her comments and even more then that I needed to realize that our system of government is broken when we as a public allow outsiders to determine our future and the future of the nation that we all love. She was right and I was wrong and man I hate it when when she is right, I really, really do so much hate it...but she is right.

We are allowing our nation to be stolen from us. We are allowing a corruption of our values and principles at a pretty high level to happen to us. Why? Simply because we what so badly to win elections and control everything? It will destroy us, with hunger for power and control, the lost of our nation built on laws that we hold dear will be our punishment. I am not saying that the Republicans are good guys, they are not. I am not saying that I will never cross the line in the sand and join them on the other. Hell will freeze over first.

I do not like the Republicans or their party and I never have but I will defend their right to be a part of the battle. If we are to continue as a nation of laws and survive this present challenge to who we are then we must face our real enemies, ourselves. WE do ourselves no service in accepting the interference of millions of outsiders in those battles and we assist in the ending of our understanding of who and what we are about as a nation by accepting them. So we have their votes in great enough number so that we kick the Republicans out of the political arena for some time to come but at what cost. By taking these actions we do a disservice to all American citizens of all parties and we may not survive the damage done to our country and to me that is too great a price to pay.

I am afraid that many of my fellow citizens may hate me but I can not hold back my thoughts for I love my country far to much for that to happen. I probably will not even be heard for who am I? I am the plain Jane on the street, a regular Joe as some would say but that is the funny part about being an American. I believe that my voice matters, it has it's place in this nation. So I going to use it whether it is heard or not by others, whether it is listened too or whether I am hated or spit on/called names. So many individuals from both sides no longer even discuss our nations concerns. So here goes....

If we are to survive as a nation we must get back to the ideal of a fair playing field for all political parties not just the one party that we prefer. We as a public either believe in fairness in our dealings or we do not? We believe in the rule of law or we do not? We believe in our system of government or we want it changed for special interests groups outside of the main stream public? We can not have both values, both principles existing side by side, it is a decision of one over the other so where do our values lay now. Will our values, our principles die on the vine or continue to grow as our fore-fathers had hoped? This is the test I see, I believe lays before us as a nation, as the public which supports and loves our nation.

Yes, we are being tested once again by forces developed by our selves but also from special interests groups which prefer we lose our values, our founding principles because it suits them, not us and they will take away the center core of who we are and what we represent as a people and as a nation. There are no parties in the words, "We The People of the United States of American" and we should not allow party interest or special interest to determine who we are or what we are about. They should not be allowed to appended any more words onto this phrase which we hold so dear in our hearts.

I believe that if we are to survive, to be that light in the harbor for all to see then we must return to the foundational values of fair play, to be a land ruled by law only, not a land ruled by special interests groups who have their own agenda they follow or to follow our own personal views acting as if we live alone in this nation. How do we expect our politicians to go back to those values if we ourselves do not value them or follow them. We must place a greater value to them over our own self interest and those of others who hope we do not remember who we were meant to be. That only Congress has the right to make our laws while Presidents acknowledge/Sign them or Veto them, of course the Supreme Court plays it part for better or worst, all of this happening based on the approval of the General Public which is to be defended and protected by all 3 branches put into place by our fore-fathers.

Yes, our system of government is broken, at times I believe it is dying, that it is being pulled apart from within itself. We have allowed our political parties to disillusion us about our way of government but we must fight back. We must fight for the nation we love so much. We need to turn the tide to keep our light shining, our hopes alive, our America dream alive. First, we must fight fair above all else. I believe if we return to our founding values and principles, that we live by them and our laws, we cherish them as we should that we will live again as that nation that lives in our dreams. That we will once again be that shining beacon in the harbor not only for the rest of the world but most of all, more then anything else for ourselves.

If we do not act then certainly the American Dream will die for all of this nation's citizens and we will become a country without laws, values or principles. A country of so much chaos...I fear the future that stands before us for I fear that we as a nation, as a public will not make the right decisions. We must act and do the right thing for all who live here, not just ourselves and our own interests. We must return to thinking of ourselves as one nation which is indivisible that has justice for all.

Our America house will fall otherwise...a house divided upon itself can not survive so let's live by the rules of fair play.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022830323

That had so many right wing talking points, I asked if it was chain email, but you never came back. It was full of dog whistles used by xenophobes and racists. You may be simply ill-informed - the Democratic Party is not going for illegal voters, that is a right wing smear. I gave you the benefit of the doubt there, but this claim you make here isn't making your case very well.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
16. Not true
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:41 PM
May 2013

Did you help your kids fill out the Fasfa form? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fafsa.ed.gov%2F&ei=TfKOUZaqDpb64AP87oCYCQ&usg=AFQjCNG_HdIkEXkgbchicLkV-dyFMN6H9A&sig2=k-3AdHQEdCvf1uT8e_dTKw&bvm=bv.46340616,d.dmg


You would find that they likely would qualify for various types of loans and/or grants or work study. Did their school have a meeting on financial aid - my kids' schools did and they had information on how to find scholarships.

The ONLY thing I saw about age 24 is that if they are over 24, the parents' incomes do not matter.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
20. Both of my kids got loans at 18.
Sun May 12, 2013, 09:08 AM
May 2013

So it is not a fact that "an American student cannot attend school until they are 24."

And where do you get off insinuating that Hispanic students are not Americans?

You've got some nerve!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. Working at UC Berkeley I've seen this happening
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:21 PM
May 2013

Only a couple of years ago it was almost impossible to see a Latino face. Now I see them all the time. Everywhere. In my department we've had a few come as graduate students. It's wonderful and our department is quite proud to have them. We actively recruited them. And we feel quite lucky that they accepted us for their graduate work.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
13. That's cool.
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:00 PM
May 2013

Last I saw, Cal was like 70% Asian. Also some crazy low % black students. I still don't think it's right, but it's illegal to try get some kind of racial balance. Sad for a public school (also my alma mater).

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. There are also a lot more blacks there now
Sun May 12, 2013, 08:58 AM
May 2013

I remember that just a few years ago it was very rare to see a black student. Now it's quite common. both men and women.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
17. Predatory student loan institutions target low-income students more.
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:46 PM
May 2013

The other side of the coin needs to be looked at here. They'll nab an easy government loan for a 2 year degree for 15k, then leave the student holding the debt and a degree that *might* qualify them for a 12-14$ per hour job with no benefits. Woohoo.

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