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Omaha Steve

(99,505 posts)
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:41 AM May 2013

Huge drug cost disparities seen in health overhaul

Source: AP-Excite

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

WASHINGTON (AP) - Cancer patients could face high costs for medications under President Barack Obama's health care law, industry analysts and advocates warn.

Where you live could make a huge difference in what you'll pay.

To try to keep premiums low, some states are allowing insurers to charge patients a hefty share of the cost for expensive medications used to treat cancer, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and other life-altering chronic diseases.

Such "specialty drugs" can cost thousands of dollars a month, and in California, patients would pay up to 30 percent of the cost. For one widely used cancer drug, Gleevec, the patient could pay more than $2,000 for a month's supply, says the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20130513/DA68AHR00.html





In this May 3, 2013 photo, Daniel N. Mendelson, CEO of data analysis firm Avalere Health, poses for a photograph at their Washington office. Cancer patients could face high costs for medications under President Barack Obama's health care law, Mendelson warns. Avalere’s research shows that one in four cancer patients walks away from the pharmacy counter empty-handed when facing a copay of $500 or more for a newly prescribed drug. “It’s important that the benefit design not discriminate against people with chronic illness, and high copays do that,” he says. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

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Huge drug cost disparities seen in health overhaul (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2013 OP
no one could see THAT coming Skittles May 2013 #1
In a Republican health care plan? No way! MrSlayer May 2013 #2
generics not good enough for some people .nt quadrature May 2013 #3
Maybe there are no generic drugs to substitute. I don't think this is a generic snobs issue. nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #4
Generics aren't available for all these drugs Yo_Mama May 2013 #5
Considering all ramifications not good enough for some people. nt valerief May 2013 #11
i think i'd blame big pharma, more than I'd blame obama.... CarrieLynne May 2013 #6
I'll ditto that!!!!! SoapBox May 2013 #7
He made a deal with Big Pharma tblue May 2013 #9
Yes, he did burrowowl Jul 2013 #14
Just the IDEA of a co-pay for a maintenance med is offensive, closeupready May 2013 #8
Msg is ...co pays will kill ACA? L0oniX May 2013 #10
Bu..bu...but... price controls and lower costs! Cal Carpenter May 2013 #12
That's not a bug, it's a feature. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #13
The ACA scares the holy heck out of me. Duckwraps Jul 2013 #15
Former senator Byron Dorgan warned of this. NCarolinawoman Jul 2013 #16
Obama cares all right..about big pharma. forestpath Jul 2013 #17

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
5. Generics aren't available for all these drugs
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:32 AM
May 2013

And in some cases when they are, they are very expensive, sometimes due to shortages.

For example, there has been a doxycycline shortage - when I tried to buy some it turned out the local pharmacy had to pay $2,000 wholesale for a bottle of 500 capsules. That is a drug so cheap that normally it is included as a "free" antibiotic in many pharmaceutical programs, but no more, since the cost to the pharmacy was $4 a pill (which, mind you, they were willing to sell to me for $3.50 a pill, because of the urgency).

A lot of people literally won't be able to afford medication. Also if this is extended to diabetic supplies it is going to be dire.

When you force someone to choose between eating and getting meds, they don't get meds.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
9. He made a deal with Big Pharma
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:03 AM
May 2013

In exchange for these items, the White House agreed to:

1. Oppose importation
2. Oppose rebates in Medicare Part D
3. Oppose repeal of non-interference
4. Oppose opening Medicare Part B

/snip

White House agreed to oppose any congressional efforts to use the government's leverage to bargain for lower drug prices or import drugs from Canada -- and also agreed not to pursue Medicare rebates or shift some drugs from Medicare Part B to Medicare Part D, which would cost Big Pharma billions in reduced reimbursements.


/snip

"Non-interference" is the industry term for the status quo, in which government-driven price negotiations are barred. In other words, the government is "interfering" in the market if it negotiates lower prices. The ban on negotiating was led through Congress in 2003 by then-Rep. Billy Tauzin (R-La.), who is now the head of PhRMA.

The rebates reference is to Medicare overpayments Big Pharma managed to wrangle from the Republican Congress that Democrats are trying to recoup. The House bill would require Big Pharma to return some of that money. The rebate proposal would save $63 billion over ten years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The White House, given the chance, declined to tell the Wall Street Journal for a July 17th article that it supported the effort to pursue the rebates.

The Medicare Part B item refers to "infusion drugs," which can be administered at home. If they fall under Part B, Big Pharma gets paid more than under Part D. The agreement would leave infusion drugs in Part B.

In the section on Big Pharma's concessions, "FOBs" refers to follow-on biological drugs. Democrats have pushed to make it easier to allow generic drug makers to produce cheaper versions of such drugs, an effort Big Pharma has resisted. The Senate health committee bill gives drug makers 12 years of market exclusivity, five more than the White House proposed
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2009/08/13/internal-memo-confirms-bi_n_258285.html
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. Just the IDEA of a co-pay for a maintenance med is offensive,
Mon May 13, 2013, 10:30 AM
May 2013

particularly when it comes to insurance coverage mandated by the government.

And the fact that people's lives are in the balance makes it doubly offensive, IMO.

Most people live paycheck to paycheck, something members of Congress wouldn't understand. Nor, for that matter, almost anyone who is a civil servant in DC these days.

 

Duckwraps

(206 posts)
15. The ACA scares the holy heck out of me.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jul 2013

I fear the turmoil will be very, very bad. Particularly the shortage of physicians that will occur and which nobody is doing anything about.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
16. Former senator Byron Dorgan warned of this.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:03 PM
Jul 2013

This was one of his pet issues. No one was listening or seemed to care.

After that, he decided not to run for re-election.

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