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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri May 17, 2013, 11:59 PM May 2013

Harry Reid Focuses On July For The 'Nuclear Option'

Source: Huffington Post

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has told top advisers that he is prepared to take action if Senate Republicans block three upcoming nominations, the Washington Post reported on Friday.

Reid is reportedly focusing on the month of July to approach filibuster reform and possibly execute the "nuclear option," which would change the Senate rules and no longer require 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.

“This would take away the right to filibuster on nominations,” a senior Senate Democratic aide told the Washington Post. “All executive branch and judicial nominations would be subject to majority votes. He would not do it on legislative items.”

A Senate Democratic aide confirmed the Post report to HuffPost and said that Reid met recently with Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), a leader of the push to reform the filibuster, to lay out his thinking going forward.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/17/harry-reid-nuclear-option_n_3293865.html

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Harry Reid Focuses On July For The 'Nuclear Option' (Original Post) onehandle May 2013 OP
Stop teasing us and just get it done. nt BootinUp May 2013 #1
Just for nominations MannyGoldstein May 2013 #2
I like that sig. /nt Ash_F May 2013 #21
Manny is correct..Harry Reid has lied to us about this before Stuart G May 2013 #26
No he hasn't brooklynite May 2013 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein May 2013 #36
WOW - AGAIN ? groundloop May 2013 #3
I think it goes like this .. Trajan May 2013 #4
Write to him. I did. ffr May 2013 #9
That was my thought too. Left Coast2020 May 2013 #7
Sure, Harry. ChazInAz May 2013 #5
Agree. It's time already. ffr May 2013 #10
If he doesn't do it this time, it's time to replace him as Sen Maj. Leader with Senator Merkley... cascadiance May 2013 #15
Patrick Leahy tblue May 2013 #38
To be or not to be? (NT) The Wizard May 2013 #6
Why wait? nm rhett o rick May 2013 #8
I thought they couldn't change the filibuster rules with a simple majority until the new BlueCaliDem May 2013 #11
It is confusing, BlueCaliDem.. Cha May 2013 #12
So am I, Cha. Unless the turnout is low allowing election fraud to successfully take hold, BlueCaliDem May 2013 #14
Gracias for reminding me of Cha May 2013 #16
Yeah right. Third Doctor May 2013 #13
Agreed Sherman A1 May 2013 #20
Reid will reach another "agreement" with the GOP where they will promise not to filibuster Cali_Democrat May 2013 #17
Yep. Exactly. OnionPatch May 2013 #37
Cakes yesterday, cakes tomorrow, but never cakes today. Liberal Veteran May 2013 #18
No no, seriously, he means it this time. He's really really.. NCcoast May 2013 #19
sure, Harry Adenoid_Hynkel May 2013 #22
The odds are better of hitting the Powerball tonight then Harry changing the filibuster rules YeahSureRight May 2013 #23
Yeah yeah yeah newfie11 May 2013 #24
Do it already. another_liberal May 2013 #25
YAWN YAWN chuckstevens May 2013 #27
he is prepared to take action if Senate Republicans block three upcoming nominations Flashmann May 2013 #28
Merkley's after his job. SwankyXomb May 2013 #29
I'm Gonna Hold My Breath! filmconsultant May 2013 #30
While You Are Right, What Makes You Think the GOP Won't Change the Filibuster? dballance May 2013 #41
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #42
PLEASE tell me no one here believes it. broadcaster75201 May 2013 #31
You damn well better, Harry, you damn well better!! mountain grammy May 2013 #32
Harry was dead set against it in 2005 madville May 2013 #33
They won't have to endorse the practice. hughee99 May 2013 #35
Golly Android3.14 May 2013 #39
"nuclear option" mpcamb May 2013 #40
(cue music) "I'm Just Wild About Harry..." IrishAyes May 2013 #43

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
26. Manny is correct..Harry Reid has lied to us about this before
Sat May 18, 2013, 07:51 AM
May 2013

Even about nominations...I don't think he will tell the truth..very very sad statement about Harry..

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
34. No he hasn't
Sat May 18, 2013, 10:15 AM
May 2013

I've met with him personally about this. He knows he got burned in the 2010 agreement; the problem this year was he couldn't round up the votes.

Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

groundloop

(11,513 posts)
3. WOW - AGAIN ?
Sat May 18, 2013, 12:13 AM
May 2013

For starters I'll believe it when I see it.

Beyond that I guess I don't understand Senate rules, I thought the only time this could be changed was at the start of the session (now long gone of course).
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
4. I think it goes like this ..
Sat May 18, 2013, 12:17 AM
May 2013

(correct me if I am wrong ...)

The Senate rules on filibusters can be changed at the start of the session, and apply to when Senate members conduct filibusters ...

The Nuclear Option quits filibusters all together, and forces each question to a full Senate vote, with the filibuster off the table ...

and yeah .. I'll believe it when I see it too ... For decades; the Democrats have been way too accommodating ...

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
7. That was my thought too.
Sat May 18, 2013, 12:56 AM
May 2013

Harry doesn't have a good track record with me. He's got a lot of catching up to do.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
15. If he doesn't do it this time, it's time to replace him as Sen Maj. Leader with Senator Merkley...
Sat May 18, 2013, 02:03 AM
May 2013

... who DOES know what should be done about the filibuster, and who he should have listened to at least two times before on this subject when it was time to do something about it!

tblue

(16,350 posts)
38. Patrick Leahy
Sat May 18, 2013, 01:01 PM
May 2013

is my first choice. Or Al Franken. Heck, it would be hard to be a worse maj leader than Harry Reid.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
11. I thought they couldn't change the filibuster rules with a simple majority until the new
Sat May 18, 2013, 01:27 AM
May 2013

Senate convenes in January after every election?

Now I read that they can change the rules at any time with a simple majority?? I thought they needed 67 votes for that outside those few weeks in January when a new Congress convenes.

Confusing.

Cha

(296,844 posts)
12. It is confusing, BlueCaliDem..
Sat May 18, 2013, 01:31 AM
May 2013

but, I'm going to keep rooting for them to do it and hoping we keep the Senate in 2014!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. So am I, Cha. Unless the turnout is low allowing election fraud to successfully take hold,
Sat May 18, 2013, 02:02 AM
May 2013

I don't believe we'll lose the Senate. I don't know if we can win back the House in 2014, but I'm certain we'll retain the WH in 2016.

Let's not forget that 50,000 Latino-Americans turn 18 every month in the United States. Now, if the Republicans continue to block any immigration bill, this will incite their passion to register and vote. Then again, there are enough Latino groups, Like Voto Latino, working hard at registering as many new voters as possible in 11 states: Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Nevada and Texas, but I don't know if that will be enough to take back the House, with voter suppression tactics and as gerrymandered as it is.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
17. Reid will reach another "agreement" with the GOP where they will promise not to filibuster
Sat May 18, 2013, 02:25 AM
May 2013

Then an hour later they will filibuster every one of Obama's nominations and Harry Reid will again promise to take action.

Rinse repeat.

NCcoast

(480 posts)
19. No no, seriously, he means it this time. He's really really..
Sat May 18, 2013, 03:54 AM
May 2013

going to do it. No kidding. You thought he was mad before, this time he's mad. He means business. Don't push him. It's on this time. It's on. There will be blood. No kidding. He's going to take it to these guy. Mess'um up. He was a fighter, a prize fighter. Hear that? A prize fighter. Poppa don't take no mess... seriously, he's steamin' this time... don't mess around... it's go time...

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
25. Do it already.
Sat May 18, 2013, 07:01 AM
May 2013

The Republicans did not win a majority of the Senate, and they should not be able to act as if they did. Either that or just shut the Senate down when neither Party has sixty seats.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
27. YAWN YAWN
Sat May 18, 2013, 08:40 AM
May 2013

I heard that it also include a strongly worded letter to the Republicans about playing fair! Harry "Ball-less" Reid had his chance at the beginning of the new Congress in Jan 2013, but he wimped out for the millionth time. Why should I believe him now?

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
28. he is prepared to take action if Senate Republicans block three upcoming nominations
Sat May 18, 2013, 08:41 AM
May 2013

Yeah...Like roll over again.

30. I'm Gonna Hold My Breath!
Sat May 18, 2013, 09:45 AM
May 2013

Harry reminds me of the kid who kept threatening to faint but never delivered. Everyone over the age of 5 realizes the current state of American governance is untenable. But Harry's stopper is what will happen to Democrats when Republicans again grab control of the Senate; taking action against the filibuster now leads to a future of Democrats shut out in the cold.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
41. While You Are Right, What Makes You Think the GOP Won't Change the Filibuster?
Sat May 18, 2013, 02:31 PM
May 2013

What makes you, or anyone, believe that if the GOP gets control of the Senate that they won't change the filibuster rules to their liking to shut out the Democrats anyway? So we may as well do it now and see if we can get, at least, some of Obama's appointments into office. It's extremely important that we get some of his judges to the bench. Those appointments have decades of influence.

broadcaster75201

(387 posts)
31. PLEASE tell me no one here believes it.
Sat May 18, 2013, 09:47 AM
May 2013

He'll do nothing. He never does anything and he never will. He is a feckless, blithering old fool. So am I, but I don't run the Senate.

madville

(7,404 posts)
33. Harry was dead set against it in 2005
Sat May 18, 2013, 10:15 AM
May 2013

I remember Harry going on and on about how many rules would have to be broken to exercise the "nuclear option", ruining a sacred Senate tradition, etc, etc.

Just think, if Bill Frist and crew hadn't chickened out we wouldn't even be having this debate today, the rules could have been changed 8 years ago but Harry wouldn't let it happen then and they took control in 2006 anyway.

What happens if the Republicans get the Senate back with a Republican President? They'll use this to ram all their appointees through and the Democrats will have endorsed the practice.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
35. They won't have to endorse the practice.
Sat May 18, 2013, 10:59 AM
May 2013

All they will need to do is find some minor difference between the two and claim that it's not the same. The "fig leaf" to cover the hypocrisy.

I recall "nuclear option" discussions on the DU from the years the repukes controlled the senate when the filibuster was an important tool to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Then the party in control changed and the filibuster became a weapon used to thwart the will of the people. I have no doubt people that made the jump from one to the other will be able to make the leap back.

mpcamb

(2,868 posts)
40. "nuclear option"
Sat May 18, 2013, 01:08 PM
May 2013

I still feel pissy when this gets labeled this way.
It's a minor political step to rectify an long-standing abuse.

Maybe they could add 'gate' to the end of yet another phrase and diddle language a bit further.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
43. (cue music) "I'm Just Wild About Harry..."
Sat May 18, 2013, 10:38 PM
May 2013

After reading all your other replies, I need to say I don't mean that facetiously.

And yes, I've got my armor on so all you Harry haters, go ahead and do your worst. I don't give a damn.

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