Harry Reid Focuses On July For The 'Nuclear Option'
Source: Huffington Post
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has told top advisers that he is prepared to take action if Senate Republicans block three upcoming nominations, the Washington Post reported on Friday.
Reid is reportedly focusing on the month of July to approach filibuster reform and possibly execute the "nuclear option," which would change the Senate rules and no longer require 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.
This would take away the right to filibuster on nominations, a senior Senate Democratic aide told the Washington Post. All executive branch and judicial nominations would be subject to majority votes. He would not do it on legislative items.
A Senate Democratic aide confirmed the Post report to HuffPost and said that Reid met recently with Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), a leader of the push to reform the filibuster, to lay out his thinking going forward.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/17/harry-reid-nuclear-option_n_3293865.html
BootinUp
(47,078 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And it won't happen, anyway.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Even about nominations...I don't think he will tell the truth..very very sad statement about Harry..
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)I've met with him personally about this. He knows he got burned in the 2010 agreement; the problem this year was he couldn't round up the votes.
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groundloop
(11,513 posts)For starters I'll believe it when I see it.
Beyond that I guess I don't understand Senate rules, I thought the only time this could be changed was at the start of the session (now long gone of course).
Trajan
(19,089 posts)(correct me if I am wrong ...)
The Senate rules on filibusters can be changed at the start of the session, and apply to when Senate members conduct filibusters ...
The Nuclear Option quits filibusters all together, and forces each question to a full Senate vote, with the filibuster off the table ...
and yeah .. I'll believe it when I see it too ... For decades; the Democrats have been way too accommodating ...
ffr
(22,665 posts)Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)Harry doesn't have a good track record with me. He's got a lot of catching up to do.
ChazInAz
(2,559 posts)Yup. Uh-huh.
Stop talking about doing it somewhere down the line and just do it!
ffr
(22,665 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... who DOES know what should be done about the filibuster, and who he should have listened to at least two times before on this subject when it was time to do something about it!
tblue
(16,350 posts)is my first choice. Or Al Franken. Heck, it would be hard to be a worse maj leader than Harry Reid.
The Wizard
(12,536 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Senate convenes in January after every election?
Now I read that they can change the rules at any time with a simple majority?? I thought they needed 67 votes for that outside those few weeks in January when a new Congress convenes.
Confusing.
Cha
(296,844 posts)but, I'm going to keep rooting for them to do it and hoping we keep the Senate in 2014!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I don't believe we'll lose the Senate. I don't know if we can win back the House in 2014, but I'm certain we'll retain the WH in 2016.
Let's not forget that 50,000 Latino-Americans turn 18 every month in the United States. Now, if the Republicans continue to block any immigration bill, this will incite their passion to register and vote. Then again, there are enough Latino groups, Like Voto Latino, working hard at registering as many new voters as possible in 11 states: Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Nevada and Texas, but I don't know if that will be enough to take back the House, with voter suppression tactics and as gerrymandered as it is.
Cha
(296,844 posts)Latino Voto, BlueCaliDem!
http://www.votolatino.org/
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)I'll believe it when I see it. Especially coming from Reid.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Just don't believe it.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Then an hour later they will filibuster every one of Obama's nominations and Harry Reid will again promise to take action.
Rinse repeat.
OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)NCcoast
(480 posts)going to do it. No kidding. You thought he was mad before, this time he's mad. He means business. Don't push him. It's on this time. It's on. There will be blood. No kidding. He's going to take it to these guy. Mess'um up. He was a fighter, a prize fighter. Hear that? A prize fighter. Poppa don't take no mess... seriously, he's steamin' this time... don't mess around... it's go time...
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)We totally believe you mean it this time.
YeahSureRight
(205 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)I have heard that before. I'll believe it when I see it.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)The Republicans did not win a majority of the Senate, and they should not be able to act as if they did. Either that or just shut the Senate down when neither Party has sixty seats.
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)I heard that it also include a strongly worded letter to the Republicans about playing fair! Harry "Ball-less" Reid had his chance at the beginning of the new Congress in Jan 2013, but he wimped out for the millionth time. Why should I believe him now?
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Yeah...Like roll over again.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)Harry's just doing this to try and placate him for a little while longer.
filmconsultant
(1 post)Harry reminds me of the kid who kept threatening to faint but never delivered. Everyone over the age of 5 realizes the current state of American governance is untenable. But Harry's stopper is what will happen to Democrats when Republicans again grab control of the Senate; taking action against the filibuster now leads to a future of Democrats shut out in the cold.
dballance
(5,756 posts)What makes you, or anyone, believe that if the GOP gets control of the Senate that they won't change the filibuster rules to their liking to shut out the Democrats anyway? So we may as well do it now and see if we can get, at least, some of Obama's appointments into office. It's extremely important that we get some of his judges to the bench. Those appointments have decades of influence.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)broadcaster75201
(387 posts)He'll do nothing. He never does anything and he never will. He is a feckless, blithering old fool. So am I, but I don't run the Senate.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)madville
(7,404 posts)I remember Harry going on and on about how many rules would have to be broken to exercise the "nuclear option", ruining a sacred Senate tradition, etc, etc.
Just think, if Bill Frist and crew hadn't chickened out we wouldn't even be having this debate today, the rules could have been changed 8 years ago but Harry wouldn't let it happen then and they took control in 2006 anyway.
What happens if the Republicans get the Senate back with a Republican President? They'll use this to ram all their appointees through and the Democrats will have endorsed the practice.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)All they will need to do is find some minor difference between the two and claim that it's not the same. The "fig leaf" to cover the hypocrisy.
I recall "nuclear option" discussions on the DU from the years the repukes controlled the senate when the filibuster was an important tool to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Then the party in control changed and the filibuster became a weapon used to thwart the will of the people. I have no doubt people that made the jump from one to the other will be able to make the leap back.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)And then elections might have consequences.
Who'd a thunk it?
mpcamb
(2,868 posts)I still feel pissy when this gets labeled this way.
It's a minor political step to rectify an long-standing abuse.
Maybe they could add 'gate' to the end of yet another phrase and diddle language a bit further.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)After reading all your other replies, I need to say I don't mean that facetiously.
And yes, I've got my armor on so all you Harry haters, go ahead and do your worst. I don't give a damn.