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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:05 PM May 2013

Breaking: Tornadoes Tear Through Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa (Okla. Funnel 'Half-Mile Wide')

Source: CNN / Associated Press / CBS News

@AP: BREAKING: Tornado causes major damage at trailer park near Oklahoma City; spotter says earth `scoured' -RJJ

updated 8:51 PM EDT 05.19.13

Tornadoes tear through Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa

By Dana Ford, CNN

(CNN) - Tornadoes touched down in three states on Sunday, ripping roofs off homes and turning trees to matchsticks, as severe weather swept the region.

A large "violent and extremely dangerous" tornado was spotted on the southwest side of Wichita, Kansas, the National Weather Service said.

A second confirmed tornado was seen near Edmond, Oklahoma, said the weather service. Another tornado was spotted in nearby Luther, Oklahoma, but it was not immediately clear whether that was the same twister.

A third tornado touched down near Wellston, Oklahoma, taking out power lines and damaging several homes, according to video from CNN affiliate KFOR. The affiliate's helicopter pilot estimated the funnel cloud to be about a half-mile wide.

"It's tearing up everything," the pilot said. "Just ripping everything up in its sight."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/19/us/severe-weather/index.html



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57585230/powerful-thunderstorms-rumble-through-hard-hit-midwest

BREAKING: Tornado Causes Major Damage at Trailer Park Near Okla. City; Spotter Says Earth "Scoured"

EDMOND, Okla. A powerful storm system rumbled through the Plains and upper Midwest on Sunday, spawning tornadoes that damaged homes and buildings near Oklahoma City and put the Tulsa area on high-alert.

There were no immediate reports of injuries caused by any of the tornadoes that touched down in Oklahoma and Kansas, including one that hit the Oklahoma City suburb of Edmond before moving northeast toward Tulsa, 90 miles to the northeast.

For days, forecasters had been warning about the possibility of tornadoes from a weekend storm, and emergency responders as far north as Minnesota and as far south as Texas were keeping a close eye on the powerful system pushing eastward and northward through the nation's breadbasket.

Forecasters say a supercell of thunderstorms packing baseball-sized hail, heavy rain, and tornadoes could do a lot of damage, CBS News correspondent Anna Werner reports.

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Breaking: Tornadoes Tear Through Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa (Okla. Funnel 'Half-Mile Wide') (Original Post) Hissyspit May 2013 OP
Hoping for the best with this. geomon666 May 2013 #1
Worst damage was in the Shawnee area, KatyaR May 2013 #2
And Yet MSNBC decides to go with "Predator Raw:The Unseen Tapes" Pilotguy May 2013 #3
Unseen? Chakab May 2013 #32
3 states-6 minutes ago. ErikJ May 2013 #4
Horrible. I continue to wonder though... NoodleyAppendage May 2013 #5
In a word No... redstatebluegirl May 2013 #7
In Kansas, all trailer parks *must* have tornado shelters. longship May 2013 #11
no. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #12
When I lived in Wichita (18 years) you heard the tornado warnings. longship May 2013 #18
Our town council decided not to invest in tornado sirens ...again. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #19
The sirens are for those not on their puters. longship May 2013 #21
Wi-fi goes down when electricity and cable fail Pmc1962 May 2013 #22
Yup, in Wichita it's KFDI AM. 100KW! longship May 2013 #24
Our village did invest in them, good thing too. Anymouse May 2013 #27
We are in the one part of the state that does not get tornadoes dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #36
The odds in any given year are several million to one Warpy May 2013 #15
Million to one? Not in Wichita KS. longship May 2013 #23
Do tornadoes level Witchita every time a warning sounds? Warpy May 2013 #34
Tornadoes hit Wichita area several times while I lived there. longship May 2013 #38
Our local stations are showing live helicopter views OKNancy May 2013 #6
I'm seeing three distinct lines of storms House of Roberts May 2013 #8
Athens got hit today, I read. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #13
That was Friday afternoon about 2pm. House of Roberts May 2013 #14
ohh....wow, the weekend sure goes by fast, doesn't it? dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #16
Radar Pilotguy May 2013 #9
I live just southwest of Tulsa PD Turk May 2013 #10
North of Tulsa and we are not getting some severe weather. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #17
I hope you stayed safe! Lone_Star_Dem May 2013 #25
Another storm just rolled in! Behind the Aegis May 2013 #26
Hey, that's a discount rate! Lone_Star_Dem May 2013 #28
It's "cheap" like that here because the soil is mostly silt. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #30
Ha! Someone worse than I am. Lone_Star_Dem May 2013 #31
I am just glad they installed the new siren a few months back. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #33
Too bad the cats can't be trained to go into carriers during storms.. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #37
Climate Change is a myth. Nothing is happening. These monster storm and their frequency are normal Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #20
Mitchell county in Iowa is emmadoggy May 2013 #29
Add more like this to the cost of the Keystone pipeline. grahamhgreen May 2013 #35

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
2. Worst damage was in the Shawnee area,
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:13 PM
May 2013

having moved east/northeast from OKC. There is extensive damage, especially along I40 near Shawnee.

http://www.news9.com/story/22293187/damage-reported-as-multiple-tornadoes-touch-down-in-central-ok

A third tornado touched down about a mile and a half north of Luther approaching the small towns Wellston and Carney. Debris was reported and circulation was observed as being about a half a mile wide. Preliminary reports suggest this twister may be an ef-4 or even an ef-5.

...

A fourth, and very large tornado touched down east of Norman, forming a waterspout over Lake Thunderbird on the north, northwest edge of the lake. No damage has been reported with this tornado, but several power flashes were seen. Just over 200 customers around the Norman area have reported power outages.

...

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol shutdown Interstate 40 and highway 102 near Fire Lake Grand Casino because of the tornado near the Shawnee area. Heavy damage was reported near Homer Ln. and highway 102, south of the casino.

Several injuries and at least one fatality have been reported in trailer park that was completely destroyed, east of highway 102 on Independence. Some residents may even be trapped in the damaged homes. Reports are coming in about multiple vehicles overturned on I-40 near highway 177. [\blockquote]
 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
4. 3 states-6 minutes ago.
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:15 PM
May 2013

(CNN) -- Tornadoes touched down in three states on Sunday, ripping roofs off homes and turning trees to matchsticks, as severe weather swept the region.
A large "violent and extremely dangerous" tornado was spotted on the southwest side of Wichita, Kansas, the National Weather Service said.
A second confirmed tornado was seen near Edmond, Oklahoma, said the weather service. Another tornado was spotted in nearby Luther, Oklahoma, but it was not immediately clear whether that was the same twister.
A third tornado touched down near Wellston, Oklahoma, taking out power lines and damaging several homes, according to video from CNN affiliate KFOR. The affiliate's helicopter pilot estimated the funnel cloud to be about a half-mile wide.
"It's tearing up everything," the pilot said. "Just ripping everything up in its sight."

NoodleyAppendage

(4,619 posts)
5. Horrible. I continue to wonder though...
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:21 PM
May 2013

...why do people continue to inhabit trailer homes in notorious tornado areas? Isn't there a better(safer) option for low cost housing in these regions?

J

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. In Kansas, all trailer parks *must* have tornado shelters.
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:57 PM
May 2013

It's the law there. I think they all abide by that law.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. no.
Sun May 19, 2013, 10:07 PM
May 2013

Esp, in the current economy.

Most people know to get out of a trailer during storms like this, if they can see and hear the weather alarms.

longship

(40,416 posts)
18. When I lived in Wichita (18 years) you heard the tornado warnings.
Sun May 19, 2013, 10:43 PM
May 2013

You could hear the sirens miles away, often long before the ones near you went off. There was no place in town, or in the suburbs that didn't turn on their sirens when a funnel was sighted in the vicinity.

And make no bones about it. Everybody would have KFDI on their radio when there was a chance for tornados. I would be at work and they would pipe KFDI over the PA system so people would know what was going on. Also, to know that families were safe. Not much work would get done, but that was better than sending people home and having more cars on the roads mucking up any emergency traffic if something bad happened.

And often enough it did get serious, so companies took this shit seriously.

I remember two bad ones, both ef-4 or ef-5. One went through Andover and killed a bunch of people... Yup! In a trailer park.

Another wiped a little one company town, Hesston, Kansas about right off the map. Here's a pic:


I remember a very excited KFDI mobile unit reporting from under a bridge on I-35 within sight as the tornado crossed the expressway just ahead of him. "There goes the Pizza Hut. And there goes the gas station." The people in the gas station and the Pizza Hut all survived by heads up thinking of the Pizza Hut manager who got everybody into the big walk-in refrigerator and slammed the door just before both buildings were destroyed into kindling.

Two of my close friends lost their homes in the Andover storm. Both lived in Sedgwick County, in other words, Wichita, 30 miles from Andover.

One doesn't mess around with weather there. You don't peek out the window if there's a warning.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. Our town council decided not to invest in tornado sirens ...again.
Sun May 19, 2013, 10:55 PM
May 2013

We do have local radio and most people watch the local tv news, which does a great job of tracking the storms, for hours if need be.
I rely on mostly the puter, thanks to radar.

I rememer the name of the Andover, I do believe. Those monster tornadoes have a way of sticking one's mind.

longship

(40,416 posts)
21. The sirens are for those not on their puters.
Sun May 19, 2013, 11:15 PM
May 2013

Or there radios, or their TVs.

Sometimes people are just doing their thing, gardening, reading, or whatever. A tornado can hit in a matter of five minutes, or less, before you know something very bad is going on.

For the sake of your townsfolk, I hope you don't live in tornado alley. Sirens save lives.

Pmc1962

(42 posts)
22. Wi-fi goes down when electricity and cable fail
Sun May 19, 2013, 11:26 PM
May 2013

My frustration in KC: we want to keep tabs on the storm but our cable/phone/internet goes out, so no tv/computer access when you need it most. Cell phone coverage stinks in Brookside, so even my 3G access won't go fast enough to download the information. (I confess to being a weather radar junkie.)

I figure if the radio is playing music, we're ok but it would be nice to have more info. The sirens are really necessary.

longship

(40,416 posts)
24. Yup, in Wichita it's KFDI AM. 100KW!
Sun May 19, 2013, 11:39 PM
May 2013

Everybody tunes in, and I do mean everybody. They have mobile units reporting live on the scene with trained spotters. I knew a couple of them. One, Becky Zogelmann (sp? Or something like that), I would occasionally toss down a beer or two with when I'd bump into her.

Those guys took things very seriously.

And yes, the sirens went off all over the city when there was a confirmed funnel within or approaching the county.

You couldn't not hear them.

Anymouse

(120 posts)
27. Our village did invest in them, good thing too.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:18 AM
May 2013

Our village board invested in a tornado siren a few years ago (the town is small enough we only need one).
Good thing too: it was used three times yesterday.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. We are in the one part of the state that does not get tornadoes
Mon May 20, 2013, 08:49 AM
May 2013

(knock on wood)
unless a hurricane hits us directly enough to spawn them.
Our area is called the Red Hill Country, it is just below all the flat for miles and forever Black Belt.
A town & area just 40 miles to the west gets the twisters, which come from the storm lines that hit Hattisberg first.
Interesting pattern.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
15. The odds in any given year are several million to one
Sun May 19, 2013, 10:23 PM
May 2013

that a tornado will strike any particular area. Mobile homes give the best bang for the buck in housing, and Tornado Alley isn't exactly a high wage bastion. People live in them mostly because they can't afford stick built housing, which does a little better in these things but which can still be flattened.

If I had to live there, I'd live in a trailer. I'd also have a storm cellar dug and stocked with emergency water, dry clothing, and food for several days.

I hope people in that trailer park are safe. I know why they're living there.

longship

(40,416 posts)
23. Million to one? Not in Wichita KS.
Sun May 19, 2013, 11:28 PM
May 2013

Tornado warnings more than once a year. In some years, quite a few.

Note, that Wichita doesn't put on the sirens for no good reason. The storm spotters there are among the best of the best. I knew a couple of them. They know that false alarms can have a severe deleterious effect to public response. And, not alerting on a questionable funnel cloud could get people killed. They take this shit very seriously; they want to get it right.

In KS, all trailer parks are required to have storm shelters within a certain distance from every home. AFAIK. Douchebag in one trailer court locked the shelters because of kids. Caused a bit of a stir when they couldn't get in during a warning.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
34. Do tornadoes level Witchita every time a warning sounds?
Mon May 20, 2013, 01:20 AM
May 2013

Didn't think so.

Warnings are sounded when rotation inside a storm cloud is picked up on doppler. It doesn't always mean a tornado is on the ground.

longship

(40,416 posts)
38. Tornadoes hit Wichita area several times while I lived there.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:12 PM
May 2013

One leveled the town of Hesston, KS, north of Wichita. One cut through McConnell Air Force Base and leveled a trailer park. One leveled stores on the main drag east of downtown. One hit Andover after hitting Wichita. And those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head.

AFAIK, they sound the alarm when there is a known funnel cloud, whether or not it is on the ground. This is done by a combination of Doppler radar and/or spotters.

People in Wichita take tornadoes very seriously. They also know to take shelter when the alarms go off. It saves lives.

House of Roberts

(5,162 posts)
8. I'm seeing three distinct lines of storms
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:27 PM
May 2013

moving through Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska. I can't recall seeing that before. Maybe it's more likely to happen out there, but not here (N. Ala.).

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
10. I live just southwest of Tulsa
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:46 PM
May 2013

Still waiting to hear from a friend that lives in Shawnee. Had a little debris falling a while ago, mostly paper and leaves that obviously weren't falling from trees. Some drywall and stuff fell on my friend's place a few miles southwest of here. It's been a crazy day

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
17. North of Tulsa and we are not getting some severe weather.
Sun May 19, 2013, 10:32 PM
May 2013

Tornado watch until 11pm. May have to clear out the hall closet again.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
25. I hope you stayed safe!
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:12 AM
May 2013

Violent storms freak me out anymore. There's just no telling what's going to happen.

I hide in my interior closet, too. If things continue like they have been in recent history, I'm thinking of putting in a mini fridge in the darn thing.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
26. Another storm just rolled in!
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:15 AM
May 2013

I am hoping we don't lose power (among other things). We use the interior closet because it is the only place in the entire house which doesn't have exterior windows! I really want to put in a storm cellar, but at $3000, and no where to really put it in the house, I am just hoping for the best in the event of a tornado.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
28. Hey, that's a discount rate!
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:23 AM
May 2013

Here, where it's all solid rock and requires blasting, 10K is the norm. Not a lot of storm shelters or survivalist burying buses, etc. around here. We do have extensive cave systems though!

Hunker down. Be safe. The season is still young, sad to say.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
30. It's "cheap" like that here because the soil is mostly silt.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:27 AM
May 2013

I am going to prepare a better emergency plan. When we lived here before, I had the cat and one Chihuahua trained to hide in the bathroom (different house) when the tornado sirens started. I now have the cat and three MORE Chihuahuas, plus the birds, which, sadly, I can't get to the closet. We keep have mini power losses (just a few seconds, but enough to knock out TVs, computers not on back-up and clocks).

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
31. Ha! Someone worse than I am.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:37 AM
May 2013

My three cats all have to be in the closet with me. However, we don't have sirens here. Tornadoes do happen, but they aren't as prolific as up in your area. Here you use the internet, and NOAA radio to track them until you hear they're heading toward your neighborhood.

Then you:

A) panic.

B) dig the cats out from under the bed, off of the top of the wardrobe, out of the back of the bookshelves, and try and cram them into the closet.

C) extract cat claws from your back/neck/head.

D) sip wine and sprinkle catnip liberally on the floor for your fellow closet refugees.


Come to think of it I need a better plan myself.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
33. I am just glad they installed the new siren a few months back.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:47 AM
May 2013

This one even my partner can hear (he is totally deaf in one ear). The thing is I have really good hearing, so if I miss the initial wind-up because the horn is facing in a direction away from my home, then the first blast always causes me to jump! The first time the sirens were tested this year, I didn't know about the newest placement, so when the sirens went off, I literally fell off the couch because I jumped. My partner looked over at me, and said, "are you OK?!" I said the sirens scared me, to which he replied: "what siren?" THEN he heard it!

When we lived in the other house and trained Tony (cat) and Voodoo (dog) to go to the interior bathroom, my partner was home when a test took place, and I told him he had to go with us. So, I am shooing everyone saying "Tornado! Tornado! Everyone to the bathroom!" My partner is laughing at me hysterically, until he looks over at me and sees I am shooting him "that look." Upon seeing it, he apologized profusely and promptly sat on the floor of the bathroom. I take drills very seriously; years of working in universities and colleges.

If you want to train your cats, you can use a very distinct sound maker (phone app or something), and train them to go to the closet. You'd be surprised how quickly they learn what to do when they hear the sound, even if they are sleeping elsewhere in the house.

HOT DAMN! The storm is slowing a bit, and the lightening is far way for the moment...I am gonna go jump in the shower! YEA!!!!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
37. Too bad the cats can't be trained to go into carriers during storms..
Mon May 20, 2013, 08:54 AM
May 2013

which sounds like a good idea
except
one of my cats will drain all my blood before he lets me shove him into a carrier.
Luckily I have cat tranquilizers for any necessary vet trips.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
20. Climate Change is a myth. Nothing is happening. These monster storm and their frequency are normal
Sun May 19, 2013, 10:56 PM
May 2013

Nothing to see here. Move on please. X-Factor is on!

emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
29. Mitchell county in Iowa is
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:26 AM
May 2013

having major flash flooding tonight. Anywhere between 4 and 8 inches of rain has fallen in a short period of time (along with some damaging winds and small hail). The ground was also already pretty saturated from recent rains and the melt from the big May Day snowstorm. State Hwy. 9 and US Hwy. 218 are both CLOSED. Weatherman reported that Emergency Management is also saying that most of the gravel roads in the county are impassable or treacherous. No travel is advised.

I grew up there and I can't remember Hwy. 9 ever being closed like that, so it must be crazy there right now. Hope everyone is safe....





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