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BVictor1

(229 posts)
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:22 AM May 2013

Anthony Weiner Enters 2013 New York Mayoral Race (VIDEO)

Source: Huffington Post

Anthony Weiner Enters 2013 New York Mayoral Race (VIDEO)
The Huffington Post | By Braden Goyette
Posted: 05/22/2013 12:53 am EDT | Updated: 05/22/2013 12:57 am EDT

Anthony Weiner officially kicked off his New York mayoral campaign late Tuesday with a video announcement posted to YouTube.

The former New York congressman resigned in 2011 after posting a lewd photo of himself on Twitter. Weiner-- who is married to former top aide to Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin, with whom he now has a son-- lied and said his account had been hacked. He later admitted to sending inappropriate online messages to six women.

Since his resignation, Weiner had remained largely out of the spotlight until last month, when in a New York Times Magazine profile, he didn't rule out the possibility of running again for mayor of New York City. He launched a campaign in 2009, but later dropped out.


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Anthony Weiner Enters 2013 New York Mayoral Race (VIDEO) (Original Post) BVictor1 May 2013 OP
I think in the end i will likely vote for him if he is on the ballot. hrmjustin May 2013 #1
i would too if i were in new york. DesertFlower May 2013 #2
I've always said, if the voters of NYC don't mind having a mayor who tweeted his cock Nye Bevan May 2013 #3
The voters in NY knew what was going on and had the party leadership not forced him out, sabrina 1 May 2013 #5
^^^This!^^^ BlueCaliDem May 2013 #7
+1 Bigredhunk May 2013 #9
You said it! Plucketeer May 2013 #37
I'm right there with you, sabrina. I'd LOVE to be able to vote for him. pacalo May 2013 #10
The voters of New York never had a chance to rule on whether Weiner should have kept his seat. merrily May 2013 #38
I agree. Polls at the time showed he would have been reelected regardless of all the sabrina 1 May 2013 #41
If they didn't mind Ghooliani.... merrily May 2013 #31
Good for him. I hope he wins. I will be happy to help him do so. n/t sabrina 1 May 2013 #4
Still would support Christine Quinn if I was a New Yawker....Weiner should have run for comptroller. Rowdyboy May 2013 #6
May he fail miserably Adenoid_Hynkel May 2013 #8
Yep. Plus, he's a deceiver & a liar with poor judgment. n/t Little Star May 2013 #19
He lied about cyber sex, and it was no one's business. Since we move on from War Crimes sabrina 1 May 2013 #33
He is a narcissist. It's all about him. Weiner did jackshit in Congress. KittyWampus May 2013 #87
I hope he flanks for future Mayor Quinn, then takes a position in President Clinton's cabinet in17 graham4anything May 2013 #11
I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. tblue May 2013 #12
it's not about his personal life Skittles May 2013 #15
If every politician who made poor decisions in public or private life were drummed out of office, merrily May 2013 #32
If Mark Sanford can get reelected after lying, skipping town from his responsibilities and having Auntie Bush May 2013 #82
He made excellent political decisions. We move on from War Criminals and Wall St. Criminals sabrina 1 May 2013 #36
we need to find people who can do all that Skittles May 2013 #74
Oh hell to the no DeadLetterOffice May 2013 #13
I haven't seen Dems do or say anything much about Republicans who do way worse than sabrina 1 May 2013 #42
Oh THAT'S a ringing endorsement... DeadLetterOffice May 2013 #75
No, not a false dilemma at all. I consider it a real dilemma that we have actual dangerous criminals sabrina 1 May 2013 #89
+1 eom LittleGirl May 2013 #57
inspired by Sanford Skittles May 2013 #14
One disappeared from his Governorship, cheated on his wife, stole from taxpayers... onehandle May 2013 #17
Both got caught lying out their asses also. Little Star May 2013 #20
Well, lying politicians seems acceptable these days. So we have to decide about the degree sabrina 1 May 2013 #43
I like it. Heaven knows. . . . annabanana May 2013 #16
He's pressing forward. I'm impressed by him. His ambition can't be contained. Bucky May 2013 #18
One of the big mistakes we make as Democrats is resign when we are wrong. I would have liked to see jwirr May 2013 #21
Maybe Eliot Spitzer can be rehabilitated, too. NBachers May 2013 #22
Eliot is a prince compared to Weiner flamingdem May 2013 #35
Weiner was going after Clarence Thomas and his wife. THAT is the only reason he was sabrina 1 May 2013 #44
Aha I didn't know that flamingdem May 2013 #45
Yes, and he was making a lot of progress. That is why Thomas' friends, Breitbart et al sabrina 1 May 2013 #51
Wow, might be worth posting about this here flamingdem May 2013 #58
I remember at the time this was all happening I did write some OPs as did others, about sabrina 1 May 2013 #62
What a weirdo AngryAmish May 2013 #23
If he lied about something bitchkitty May 2013 #24
Maybe you don't know how the internet works. former9thward May 2013 #25
It was his wife's business and he lied to her. Renew Deal May 2013 #29
If he lied about important issues, if he protected war criminals from prosecution, or Wall St. sabrina 1 May 2013 #46
Exactly right. He's a proven liar. Pterodactyl May 2013 #86
Compulsive liar, anti-Arab bigot, race-baiter, geek tragedy May 2013 #26
Isn't his wife muslim? Renew Deal May 2013 #28
The anti-Arab bigotry and race-baiting are part of his political geek tragedy May 2013 #30
Now I know I will be supporting him as I always have. He is married to a Muslim woman and sabrina 1 May 2013 #47
Are you familiar with ZOA? geek tragedy May 2013 #52
Yes, I am familiar with his position on the I/P situation and that was the one issue on which I sabrina 1 May 2013 #53
Weiner did criticize AIPAC. geek tragedy May 2013 #54
Please publish that quote 'for not hating Arabs enough'. You ignored my sabrina 1 May 2013 #56
Weiner is to the far right of AIPAC on Israel/Palestine. He hates Palestinians. geek tragedy May 2013 #59
Still no quote that he 'hates all Arabs'. The I/P situation is a political situation in which the US sabrina 1 May 2013 #63
"He is no different from any other Dem sadly, on that issue. " geek tragedy May 2013 #65
Still no 'he hates all Arabs' quotes. I guess you won't be voting for any Democrats in the next sabrina 1 May 2013 #66
Weiner has called out Obama for being insufficiently 'pro-Israel' geek tragedy May 2013 #67
Supporter of Israel - yes; aligned completely with AIPAC - no karynnj May 2013 #69
I was pretty disappointed with him Renew Deal May 2013 #27
When I read VIDEO in your title I thought: flamingdem May 2013 #34
I never gave a rat's ass about his peronal life to begin with and I don't get why so many here do. BlueStater May 2013 #39
If it wasn't for Breitbart and his band of Right Wing defenders of Clarence Thomas, we would sabrina 1 May 2013 #48
Well, I am actually thankful we found out what a scumbag he really is. DCBob May 2013 #68
That's the old John Edwards argument Renew Deal May 2013 #71
Actually, if he didn't tweet his junk instead of direct messaging it we wouldn't have known Renew Deal May 2013 #70
Actually he didn't tweet his junk deliberately to a college girl, but if you were listening to sabrina 1 May 2013 #76
You're right. It wasn't deliberately tweeted. Renew Deal May 2013 #81
Jeebus, what drives these guys? PlanetBev May 2013 #40
The political perk life is so exclusive, it's like making a wealthy person poor. It's awful to be.. Safetykitten May 2013 #50
If his wife forgave him Iwillnevergiveup May 2013 #49
I just hope that clarice May 2013 #55
Bravo! He's exactly what New York needs marshall May 2013 #60
Newsom was able to get past his sex scandal madville May 2013 #61
This guy needs to find another career. DCBob May 2013 #64
I'd vote for him adieu May 2013 #72
He exhibited an Golden Raisin May 2013 #73
Um, his dick never left his office. Photos are not the same thing as eg, actually using it. Cyber sabrina 1 May 2013 #77
I agree... Progressive issues are more important now than ever.... We have Democrats voting midnight May 2013 #79
If that FUCKER from NC an inter back onto politics. I don't see a problem bigdarryl May 2013 #78
Republicans would love him if he was a Republican..Switch your party..the Re thugs will vote for you SummerSnow May 2013 #80
I wish i could vote for him. Arctic Dave May 2013 #83
Vitter the prostitute john got to stay. Sanford in SC just got back in. Weiner never consumated RBInMaine May 2013 #84
His campaign slogan: Vote Weiner! Let it all hang out! bklyncowgirl May 2013 #85
No thanks. NYC Liberal May 2013 #88

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. I've always said, if the voters of NYC don't mind having a mayor who tweeted his cock
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:32 AM
May 2013

to a college girl, that is their prerogative.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. The voters in NY knew what was going on and had the party leadership not forced him out,
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:38 AM
May 2013

his constituents who are mature enough not to worry about a politicians personal life, in his case cyber sex, and understand that Breitbart and his gang of right wing thugs were after Weiner for going after Clarence Thomas (who breathed a sigh of relief when he was forced out of office) they would have re-elected him in a heartbeat.

If he had done something illegal, then you would have a point. He did not, and since when did the Left become such prudes? I thought that was for the hypocritical 'family values' party?

Good for him, most of the NYers I know will be happy to see him back in politics.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. ^^^This!^^^
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:51 AM
May 2013

Although I'm a Californian, I'm very happy to see Weiner has decided to run for Mayor of New York.

I had always believed that Weiner should have never left Congress, espeically because of BrainFart. I was furious with the Democratic leadership for bowing to the Rightwing and forced him to leave. Furious.

I'm happy to see that he's decided to run for Mayor and I hope New Yorkers will show their strong independent streak, and cast their support behind and their votes for him.

Bigredhunk

(1,589 posts)
9. +1
Wed May 22, 2013, 03:13 AM
May 2013

Totally agree with Sabrina & BlueCaliDem.

What he did was stupid. Someone in that position thinking that they can do things like that without getting in trouble - SMH. But what did he do? Sending pics of himself in his underwear to of-age women is a big deal? Again, stupid given that he was an elected official. But really not a big deal.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
37. You said it!
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:23 AM
May 2013

Given how TERRIBLY I miss this guy calling out the GOP (AND DEM) hypocrises, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. Sure he's "cocky" (pun intentional), but that boldness is what makes Anthony a real gem of a public servant. This West Coast resident is gonna send a few bucks to his campaign. We desperately need some straight talkers leading the way. Hell, if his wife can forgive him, who the hell are we to be critical???

merrily

(45,251 posts)
38. The voters of New York never had a chance to rule on whether Weiner should have kept his seat.
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:24 AM
May 2013

They tried as hard as they could to force Rangel out, keeping him under investigation for over two cycles. Even Obama spoke out, saying he should resign. Both times, voters sent him back.

Voter's in Weiner's district never got that chance. The drum beat for his resignation was more incessant than the drum beat for the invasion of Iraq.

This is going to be a harder thing that getting re-elected to Congress would have been. If I lived in Weiner's district, though, I'd vote for him for Mayor ten times, if I could, given that they took away my right to decide about Weiner's keeping his seat.

I am not saying what he did was right or wrong. I'm saying only (a) Democrats seemed to have a much different standard when it was Clinton, who actually broke the law; and (b) it was up to Weiner's district, not the DNC.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
41. I agree. Polls at the time showed he would have been reelected regardless of all the
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:38 AM
May 2013

publicity. Maybe that is why he was forced out before they got the chance to elect him. And as predicted, we got another Repub in his place airc.

I was thrilled when Rangel won and will do all I can to help Weiner also.

If only our party leadership held Republicans, war and Wall St criminals eg, to the same standards they hold actual progressives to.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
6. Still would support Christine Quinn if I was a New Yawker....Weiner should have run for comptroller.
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:40 AM
May 2013

But we'll see what happens. Either way, its a step up from Bloomberg.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
8. May he fail miserably
Wed May 22, 2013, 02:48 AM
May 2013

I still haven't forgiven him for his merciless piling on of Helen Thomas, for starters.

But the big deal is that he lied to everyone on the progressive side, knowing full well he sent those pics, but still had no problem with people staking their reputations on defending him.

He knew what we were up against in the form of the teabaggers, the Kochs and this unhinged GOP, yet he still chose to put his own horniness above everything else and couldn't have given a shit if he damaged the left.

He's a self-absorbed prick and his ego could receive no better punishment than irrelevancy.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
33. He lied about cyber sex, and it was no one's business. Since we move on from War Crimes
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:14 AM
May 2013

and Wall St crimes, I can overlook someone lying about something that is not illegal and that is no one's business and it sure didn't kill anyone, or torture anyone or illegally invade anyone's country, or do what Breitbart did to him, stalk any legislators with a gang of thugs etc etc.

We on the left are not the family values party, hypocritically denying someone the right to run for office because we snoop into their personal sex lives.

If your standard is lying and poor judgement, I would suggest that you apply those standards to their POLITICAL careers. Weiner had excellent political judgement and never lied about the issues the people elected him to represent them on. He was one of the best progressive reps in Congress and I don't care about his personal life, I care about his political record.

He was forced out of office against the will of the people who elected him because he had the guts to go after Clarence Thomas. That was the ONLY reason, and it worked. Thomas was protected and the people lost once again.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
87. He is a narcissist. It's all about him. Weiner did jackshit in Congress.
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:53 PM
May 2013

All he did is run his mouth.

But for some on DU, that's all that's necessary.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
11. I hope he flanks for future Mayor Quinn, then takes a position in President Clinton's cabinet in17
Wed May 22, 2013, 04:05 AM
May 2013

this will keep the oxygen out of the Mayor's race for any of the others and as I want Quinn, that to me is a good thing.

and if he wins, it would not upset me.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
12. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.
Wed May 22, 2013, 04:49 AM
May 2013

Really didn't like how he was treated and disowned by his own party. I don't care about his personal life and I won't comment on it here. He was a Democrat with a backbone and those are few and far between. If only I lived in NY, I sure would campaign and vote for him.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. If every politician who made poor decisions in public or private life were drummed out of office,
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:07 AM
May 2013

we might have the much-needed privilege of starting over from scratch.

I assume that you would have liked to have seen Clinton drummed out of office for his poor personal decisions and his very public perjury about them?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
82. If Mark Sanford can get reelected after lying, skipping town from his responsibilities and having
Wed May 22, 2013, 06:25 PM
May 2013

a sexual affair while married...then so can Weiner! I'd vote for him!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
36. He made excellent political decisions. We move on from War Criminals and Wall St. Criminals
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:18 AM
May 2013

and we have lots of people on the Left now willing to do that. So I can ignore someone lying about Cyber Sex especially since at least it is not illegal. He did nothing legally wrong and he and his wife appear to have handled their own, personal affairs which are none of our business, unless we are now the hypocritical party of family values.

When he lies about war and torture and Wall St crimes, then I will consider his judgement to be poor. But on the contrary, for the most part his political judgement was excellent for the most part, nor do I recall him ever lying about important political matters. He went after Clarence Thomas, that is the ONLY reason he was driven out of office. To protect Thomas.

Skittles

(171,591 posts)
74. we need to find people who can do all that
Wed May 22, 2013, 04:34 PM
May 2013

AND refrain from sending pictures of their junk over the internet

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
13. Oh hell to the no
Wed May 22, 2013, 05:45 AM
May 2013

I am a New Yorker, though thankfully not a New York City one.
I would not vote for him for much of anything, ever.
I am not a prude, I don't care about his sex life, such as it is.
However, I DO care that he is stupid enough to do something that totally idiotic, arrogant enough to think it wouldn't get airplay, and selfish enough to lie about it while letting others defend him.
If a repub had done something that boneheaded we'd be all over him. Democrats shouldn't be held to a different standard.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
42. I haven't seen Dems do or say anything much about Republicans who do way worse than
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:46 AM
May 2013

engage in cyber sex. Have they been 'all over Sanford' yet? Or War Criminals, like Cheney, Rummy, Condy, Gonzales et al? Or how about Jamie Dimon and his gang of Wall St. criminals?

Unless you think a little cyber sex is way worse than lying about war and destroying the economies of countries around the world, through corruption and lies, if we can overlook real crimes committed by elected officials and 'move on' from them, I can overlook a little legal cyber sex especially when someone has been on the right side of most of the issues.

Cyber sex V Wall St crimes. That's an easy one for me. I'll be working hard to help him get elected. And let me know when Dems are all over any Republican these days. All I hear is 'we can't prosecute criminals as it would be bad for the country' mainly from top Dem Leadership.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
75. Oh THAT'S a ringing endorsement...
Wed May 22, 2013, 05:21 PM
May 2013

"Cyber sex V Wall St crimes" -- really? Hardly the only options, don't you think?

That there is what's known in logic circles as the fallacy of the false dilemma. And it seems to plague an awful lot of political discussion. Which is quite sad, really.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
89. No, not a false dilemma at all. I consider it a real dilemma that we have actual dangerous criminals
Thu May 23, 2013, 12:59 AM
May 2013

who have affected the lives of millions of people but our leaders tell us to just forget about driving them out of politics, or off Wall St even, let alone prosecute them.

So put it this way, there is no dilemma for me in deciding that if criminals are not only tolerated in our government, but are honored and respected, if that is how our system works, the false dilemma is pretending that someone engaging in cyber sex, which is no one''s business and was known only because of a known Right Wing deceiver, is some kind of crime big enough to be removed from politics. It simply isn't, not by OUR standards in this country. THAT was the 'false dilemma created and apparently bought into by a few on our side.

Thankfully most people weren't impressed with the choice made by the leadership of our own party. They ignore war crimes and Wall St crimes, but go after someone who was in the process of stopping Clarence Thomas's deceptions on the SC. Now why would Dems want to protect that particular individual?

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. One disappeared from his Governorship, cheated on his wife, stole from taxpayers...
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:05 AM
May 2013

One got caught dabbling in Internet male fantasy.

The voters in that SC district clearly prefer a criminally negligent asshole.

What will be the call of NYC voters?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
43. Well, lying politicians seems acceptable these days. So we have to decide about the degree
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:00 PM
May 2013

and/or harm to the country of these lies. I don't recall anyone dying as a result of Weiner playing cyber sex games on the internet. I do know that we have been lied to about way more important issues, that we are also being asked to ignore war crimes and liars and just 'move on'. On a scale of one to ten, cyber sex in politics doesn't even make the scale for me. But protecting war criminals from prosecution, that is about a 20 on my scale. But then, maybe I'm not looking at things in the 'right' way.

I'll be helping him and am thrilled he has decided to run. If liar and cheater Giuliani could be mayor of NY, Weiner looks like a saint by comparison. I doubt a little cyber sex will bother NYers too much if they look at his political record.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
18. He's pressing forward. I'm impressed by him. His ambition can't be contained.
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:32 AM
May 2013

Sometimes in life you just gotta grab the bull by the horns and plow on a head. From all I've seen of the man, I think he's really ready for the big push and eager for a happy ending. Are things looking up? You bet! Things are primed for an explosive conclusion!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. One of the big mistakes we make as Democrats is resign when we are wrong. I would have liked to see
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:37 AM
May 2013

him stay and ride out the storm. I am also glad to see him getting back in the race. As mayor of NYC he will be heard.

flamingdem

(40,879 posts)
35. Eliot is a prince compared to Weiner
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:16 AM
May 2013

He was going after the banksters, and he was effective

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. Weiner was going after Clarence Thomas and his wife. THAT is the only reason he was
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:03 PM
May 2013

stalked and pursued by the Breitbart gang. To protect Thomas. He was making progress also which made it even more important to stop him.

It worked, we were finally getting somwhere because at least one Democrat had the guts to go after a compromised SC Justice. Then both parties went after Weiner, and Thomas has been safe ever since.

flamingdem

(40,879 posts)
45. Aha I didn't know that
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:06 PM
May 2013

somehow this was never mentioned in the coverage - at least what I heard on cable.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
51. Yes, and he was making a lot of progress. That is why Thomas' friends, Breitbart et al
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:18 PM
May 2013

had been stalking Weiner on the internet for months just waiting for an opportunity to get him. He was demanding that Thomas be asked to come clean, or at least his wife, about their conflicts of interest re SC decisions from which, Weiner insisted, correctly, (Citizens United especially) Thomas should have recused himself. Had he been an honest man, considering his ties, and his wife's, to Citizens United, and done what SC Justices are expected to do and recused himself, we would not have that 'Corps are people' ruling.

Weiner was a bulldog on this issue. He was also co-sponsoring a law that SC Justices had to reveal conflicts such as Thomas' in the future, since surprisingly there is no such law, apparently we just trust them to do the right thing.

His fight on this was gaining traction and that was when the Breitbart crowd stepped up their stalking and harassment of him. Sadly our own party sided with them in the end. He never should have resigned imo. He did nothing illegal. But with pressure from Dem leadership, he had no choice in the end, and Thomas was off the hook and that law never went anywhere.

flamingdem

(40,879 posts)
58. Wow, might be worth posting about this here
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:46 PM
May 2013

if you think others are unaware. This changes my opinion of him. We need bulldogs!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
62. I remember at the time this was all happening I did write some OPs as did others, about
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:55 PM
May 2013

his pursuit of Thomas. Try searching google for Weiner/Thomas as many others had been writing about it before this all happened. I don't think I can access them on DU3. If I can I will post some links as there was a lot of discussion and information on his fight against Thomas back then.

I doubt he will continue that fight now having been silenced so completely. But he sure tried and was getting a lot of publicity in the press and online for his efforts before this all happened. I was upset with him for doing anything that would give Breitbart and his right wing friends any fodder at all. He made a mistake and they jumped all over it. I hope he has learned that when you go after the big criminals you have to 'watch your back' every second as they WILL go after you.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
23. What a weirdo
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:05 AM
May 2013

And all you folks who would vote for him, if he lied to your face once, would you trust him not to lie about something that was actually important?

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
24. If he lied about something
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:15 AM
May 2013

that was none of my business to begin with, then there is no crime, as far as I am concerned.

I hate genital politics. I hated seeing Democrats clutching their pearls and squealing over that tweet. Who gives a shit? The guy has a penis, he sent a picture of a bulge in a pair of briefs to another adult. Who gives a flying fuck?

I wish I lived in NYC, I'd vote for him in a New York second!

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
25. Maybe you don't know how the internet works.
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:28 AM
May 2013

First there was no knowledge that he was sending to another "adult". Second when you send something out on the internet anyone can see it, especially on Twitter. Not restricted to adults or anyone. Would you find it acceptable for your kid's teacher to send them pics of his cock?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
46. If he lied about important issues, if he protected war criminals from prosecution, or Wall St.
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:07 PM
May 2013

criminals, I would be more than a little upset. But lying about Cyber Sex? I'm not a fundy, family values hypocrite. I care about issues that affect the country. And so does he.

I know he didn't lie about issues, he fought hard and with great courage for issues that are important to progressive democrats and he had the guts to demand that Clarence Thomas be asked to recuse himself from SC decisions where he had a conflict of interest. THAT is why they went after him, not because he lied, not even about real sex, but about cyber sex.

I guess for some it's okay to be a War Criminal so long as you don't engage in any sexual activities. That is why we are where we are. The priorities people appear to have.

Pterodactyl

(1,687 posts)
86. Exactly right. He's a proven liar.
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:02 PM
May 2013

There are plenty of qualified people who don't lie. He is replaceable.

Renew Deal

(85,096 posts)
28. Isn't his wife muslim?
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:39 AM
May 2013

I know that there is a difference between Arab and Muslim, but those two are pretty difficult to seperate, especially considering she once lived in Saudi Arabia.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
30. The anti-Arab bigotry and race-baiting are part of his political
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:50 AM
May 2013

value system--no idea on what he truly values, other than women praising his junk.

While in Congress, he was a member of the radical, rightwing, racist Zionist Organization of America.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
47. Now I know I will be supporting him as I always have. He is married to a Muslim woman and
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:10 PM
May 2013

has no history of prejudice against any ethnic group. Do you support politicians who protect war criminals btw? THAT would be a good reason not to support a politician imo. But cyber sex? Lol, we are Democrats, we don't think people will go to hell for thinking about sex. That's the other party.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
52. Are you familiar with ZOA?
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:19 PM
May 2013

While in Congress, he was a card-carrying member of that anti-Arab hate group.

http://zoa.org/wp-content/uploads/media/user/images/ZOAReportF09.pdf

Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) gave his customary greeting that he hails from “the ZOA wing of the
Democratic Party.” He strongly rebutted the notion
that the U.S. should be funding the Palestinians:
“Until they demonstrate that they are not supporting
terror, they should not be getting one dime of
U.S. taxpayers’ money.”


http://zoa.org/2007/11/10630-jta-dinner-with-zoa-two-morts-a-weiner-bibi-sr-a-berkley-hawk/


Under the leadership of its president, Mort Klein, the ZOA has been the most consistent and, often, the most effective American opponent of Israeli territorial concessions and U.S. support for the Palestinian Authority.



The ZOA’s base is a mixture of secular and Orthodox right-wing Zionists, who can come together on at least one point: their belief that Arabs are murderous Jew-haters who will be motivated, not mollified, by Israeli and American appeasement. There were loud cheers when Klein insisted that peace could only be achieved after the Arab side was dealt a decisive military defeat and when he said that Jerusalem was more important than peace — that no deal would be acceptable, even if it were to bring peace.

...


another Jewish Democratic congressman with strong ties to ZOA, Brooklyn’s Anthony Weiner, continued his annual tradition of showing up for the dinner and giving an impromptu speech. And, of course, he broke out his usual line, saying that he and Berkley “come from the ZOA wing of the Democratic Party.”



Weiner took what everyone I talked to understood to be a swipe at AIPAC:


That's right--Weiner considers AIPAC to be insufficiently anti-Arab.






He got his start in politics by engaging in anti-black racism.

http://www.salon.com/2011/06/07/anthony_weiner_1991/

It was at this point that Weiner’s campaign decided to blanket the district with leaflets attacking his opponents. But these were no ordinary campaign attacks: They played the race card, and at a very sensitive time. They were also anonymous.

Just weeks earlier, the Crown Heights riot — a deadly, days-long affair that brought to the surface long-standing tension between the area’s black and Jewish populations — had played out a few miles away from the 48th District. The episode had gripped all of New York and had been national news. It was just days after order had been restored that Weiner’s campaign distributed its anonymous leaflets, which linked Cohen — whose voters he was targeting in particular — to Jesse Jackson and David Dinkins, who was then New York’s mayor. It is hard to imagine two more-hated political figures in the 48th District at that moment. Jackson just a few years earlier had called New York “Hymie town,” and it was an article of faith among white voters in Weiner’s part of Brooklyn that Dinkins had protected the black rioters in Crown Heights — and thus endangered the white population — by refusing to order a harsh police crackdown. (Two years later, Dinkins would lose to Rudy Giuliani by an 80-20 percent margin in the 48th District.) The leaflets urged voters to “just say no” to the “Jackson-Dinkins agenda” that Cohen supposedly represented. At City Hall, Dinkins held up the flier and branded it “hateful.”



Fuck Anthony Weiner.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
53. Yes, I am familiar with his position on the I/P situation and that was the one issue on which I
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:26 PM
May 2013

disagreed with him.

But his record on all other progressive issues was impeccable. Being on the side of Israel in the Dem Party?? Name one who isn't, name one Dem, other than Cynthia McKinney who dares to criticize AIPAC and you might have a point. Obama? Ever heard him slam AIPAC? Last I heard every Dem politician is a supporter of Israel and if they are not, like McKinney, they will not last in the Dem Party.

Got anything else? And, for the record, I never agreed with his or any other Dem's stand on that issue. Including some of my favorite Dems, such as Grayson eg. How about Hillary? Bill Clinton? Ever heard them criticize AIPAC?

Some day maybe we will stay out of the business of Israel and the Palestinians, but right now, I cannot think of any Dem, Kucinich maybe who is also no longer in Congress, who would dare to criticize AIPAC.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
54. Weiner did criticize AIPAC.
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:29 PM
May 2013

He criticized it for not hating Arabs enough.

Anything to say about how he launched his career--with anti-black racism?

To me, racism is an automatic disqualifier. YMMV.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
56. Please publish that quote 'for not hating Arabs enough'. You ignored my
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:40 PM
May 2013

factual points and questions. Name any prominent Dem who has publicly criticized AIPAC including Obama, Clinton, Biden or anyone else. Name one Dem who has taken a public stand on the side of the Palestinians.

I'll wait for your Weiner quote and for a list of Dems who have openly criticized AIPAC, have not 'condemned' Palestinian 'terrorists' or voted against aid to Israel for their treatment of the Palestinian. It shouldn't be hard, you were quick to point at Weiner so you must follow this issue pretty closely.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
59. Weiner is to the far right of AIPAC on Israel/Palestine. He hates Palestinians.
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:47 PM
May 2013

Weiner took what everyone I talked to understood to be a swipe at AIPAC:



There is no organization in Washington, no organization at the grassroots that is more in keeping with making sure that Israel stays strong and our relationship stays solid than ZOA. Without fear of contradiction I’ll say this: more so than even that better known organization that does some very very important work.



ZOA is the organization, Weiner said, who can be counted on to take positions “without the fear of who’s going to say what and is it really the right political thing to say.” He added:



With Shelley Berkley and I standing up now as we are to make sure that we don’t make this ridiculous deal where we’re selling high-tech armaments to Saudi Arabia, some organizations are trying to figure out the right thing to do — ZOA knew instantly what the right thing to do [APPPLAUSE]. When we took the floor and said that this was folly providing more and more money for the Palestinians, not a single dime, not a single shekel should go. While other organizations hemmed and hawed, and looked to the editorial page, ZOA said we agree, there shouldn’t be any more funding [APPALUSE]. When Shelley and I said, sure maybe we should be providing some aid to Egypt, but should we provide it with high-tech military hardware, year after year after year after year? Some organizations prevaricated, ZOA said absolutely we should not and stood with Shelley and me [APPLAUSE].




Weiner’s comments come at a time when AIPAC is already facing heat from one of its top donors, casino mogul and GOP supporter Sheldon Adelson, for supporting a congressional letter urging more financial support to boost Abbas.



Just so you understand how it worked: Weiner lined up with SHELLY fucking ADELSON to squeeze AIPAC into supporting a cut off of humanitarian aid to the Palestinians.



When we took the floor and said that this was folly providing more and more money for the Palestinians, not a single dime, not a single shekel should go. While other organizations hemmed and hawed, and looked to the editorial page, ZOA said we agree, there shouldn’t be any more funding [APPALUSE]


Weiner was worse than Obama, worse than either Clinton, worse than either Bush, worse than Olmert, worse than Ehud Barak, worse than Bibi Netanyahu.

He's somewhere between Avigdor Lieberman and Baruch Goldstein.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
63. Still no quote that he 'hates all Arabs'. The I/P situation is a political situation in which the US
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:04 PM
May 2013

has never been an honest broker. He is no different from any other Dem sadly, on that issue.

I'm still waiting to hear how taking a Dem position, wrong though it may be, on a highly charged political issue which will get you thrown out of the party if you dare to speak out about it, translates into 'hating all Arabs'.

He is married to a Muslim woman which has often made him the target of the Far Right. Have YOU seen some of the nasty attacks on his wife, 'terrorist' and on him because of his marriage to his wife?

Again, I totally disagree with his and the Dem Party's position on the I/P situation. I have asked you to give me some names of other Dems, other than Kucinich who is no longer in Congress, who have dared to oppose AIPAC. So far, none. Obama and he Clintons and all of our top leadership, Pelosi et al ALL fully support Israel in this conflict to my knowledge.

Where he differed from the leadership was on issues of importance to progressives. Such as a SC Justice, in this case Thomas, refusing to recuse himself from the Citizens United vote because of huge conflicts of interest. On Gay Rights, Minority Rights, and a host of other progressive issues. He was often a lone and very strong voice on those issues while the leadership remained silent or told us we 'can not do this right now' etc etc.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
65. "He is no different from any other Dem sadly, on that issue. "
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:14 PM
May 2013

That is simply false. He is WORSE than virtually any other Democrat.

What you're not getting is that he thinks AIPAC is too squishy in its policy advocacy.

He wanted the US to STOP ALL HUMANITARIAN FUNDING FOR THE PALESTINIANS.

Don't believe me? Believe Juan Cole:

http://www.juancole.com/2011/06/top-things-anthony-weiner-has-said-that-are-worse-than-sexting.html

Weiner:

1. Called for Columbia University professor Joseph Massad to be fired for being critical of Israel; Weiner thus spearheaded a new McCarthyism.

2. On the Israeli attack, in international waters, on the Mavi Marmara relief ship, Weiner sputtered: “”If you want to instigate a conflict with the Israeli navy it isn’t hard to do. They were offered alternatives. Instead they chose to sail into the teeth of an internationally recognized blockade.” The blockade of Gaza civilians is a breach of international law; it is not internationally recognized and has on the contrary been condemned by almost every nation and human rights organization.

3. Alleged that the New York Times is anti-Israel: “Amnesty International in particular, has always had bias against Israel, and frankly I would argue that in many cases, the New York Times has, as well.”

4. Alleged that the Palestine Liberation Organization is still listed by the US as a terrorist organization. It was dropped from the list over 2 decades ago.

5. Tried to bar the Palestinian delegation to the United Nations from New York.

6. Alleged that Mahmoud Abbas, President of the Palestine Authority, is not the head of the PLO. He is.

7. Refused to condemn the use by Israel of cluster bombs on the civilian farms of south Lebanon in 2006.

8. Alleged that the Israeli army does not occupy the West Bank and that there is no Israeli Army presence in the West Bank.


9. Called Israel’s war on Gaza a “humane” war. 400 children were killed.

10. Voted for Iraq War authorization in 2002, before later turning against the war.



ZOA--of which Weiner was a card-carrying member, is much worse than AIPAC.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
66. Still no 'he hates all Arabs' quotes. I guess you won't be voting for any Democrats in the next
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:20 PM
May 2013

election then? Because I see you still have not provided the name of one other Dem who opposes AIPAC or Israel in that conflict? That is going to narrow your choices considerably.

There is no 'worse than' on the issue of the I/P situation. The Dem Party's stand on that issue is horrendous. Dems all viewed Israel's war on Gaza as necessary to 'defend themselves' against those terrible Palestinians.

Degrees of how they publicly express their support for that human rights violation are not relevant, not one of them condemned it, did they?

So, who will you vote for since this issues is a Dem issue and you cannot provide one Dem name that has had the courage to stand up against it, other then a few who lost their seats, as they will if they do.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
67. Weiner has called out Obama for being insufficiently 'pro-Israel'
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:23 PM
May 2013

He called out Bush for providing aid to the Palestinians.

That makes him worse than just about every other Democrat in Congress.

Quite frankly, he's worse on Israel than just about any Neocon, from Elliot Abrams to Richard Perle to Dick Cheney--one can think of.

Weiner wants to cut off all humanitarian aid for the Palestinian people. He wants them to starve and die of disease.

I call that hate.

karynnj

(60,949 posts)
69. Supporter of Israel - yes; aligned completely with AIPAC - no
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:29 PM
May 2013

As to names - here are two of the biggest, who at an AIPAC convention in 2005 or 2006 spoke of things like the need to stop Jewish settlements in the West Bank - Kerry and Biden. BOTH were considered to have challenged AIPAC positions - at that AIPAC meeting.

(You may want to review some right wing AIPAC aligned sites - they are not fans of Obama, Biden or Kerry.

J Street - which challenges AIPAC has been VERY active recently promoting support for the two state solution and SoS Kerry's work. More Jews (by far) have agreed with the J Street position than the AIPAC one.

Renew Deal

(85,096 posts)
27. I was pretty disappointed with him
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:38 AM
May 2013

And I'm not convinced that he really was sorry for what he did. When the news came out, he lied, and lied, and lied some more. The lying was after he was caught sending pictures to college girls while his wife was pregnant. I used to think he was a great representative, but I get the feeling that he's another opportunistic jerk.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
39. I never gave a rat's ass about his peronal life to begin with and I don't get why so many here do.
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:32 AM
May 2013

It only affected him and a few other people and had absolutely nothing to do with his job. The rest of us had no fucking right to know in the first place.

Mark Sanford can return to Congress. David Vitter can remain a senator. Weiner and Spitzer, on the other hand, have to resign their jobs and have their political careers ended, no questions asked. I'm sick of this disgusting double standard and if Weiner is the one to put an end to it then I say he should go for it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
48. If it wasn't for Breitbart and his band of Right Wing defenders of Clarence Thomas, we would
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:11 PM
May 2013

never have known. They were after him because HE was after Thomas. I am very happy he is returning to politics, he never should have left.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
68. Well, I am actually thankful we found out what a scumbag he really is.
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:26 PM
May 2013

It would have been worse if he won then found out.

Renew Deal

(85,096 posts)
71. That's the old John Edwards argument
Wed May 22, 2013, 02:41 PM
May 2013

And I think it's legitimate. Edwards staff was going to kill his campaign if it got too far.

Renew Deal

(85,096 posts)
70. Actually, if he didn't tweet his junk instead of direct messaging it we wouldn't have known
Wed May 22, 2013, 02:40 PM
May 2013

And if he didn't tweet it to a college girl while his wife was pregnant we wouldn't have known.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
76. Actually he didn't tweet his junk deliberately to a college girl, but if you were listening to
Wed May 22, 2013, 05:57 PM
May 2013

Breitbart I guess you would think that. And no, if Breitbart, Clarence Thomas' stooge had not been paid big money to shut him down, to save Thomas, we would not have known what he was tweeting to anyone. Because no one would have been stalking a US Congressman.

How did you feel about Clinton btw? Personally I didn't care about that either, his junk to do with what he pleased, so long as it didn't affect the country. Same story there, he had political enemies just waiting to pounce and they did. In the end, as with Weiner, the public decided that people's personal sex lives are their own business and he left office more popular than ever.

You go right ahead and worry about cyber sex if that is a priority for you, that is your right. I am more concerned about having real progressives in office and I don't really care or want to know what people do in their personal sex lives.

Renew Deal

(85,096 posts)
81. You're right. It wasn't deliberately tweeted.
Wed May 22, 2013, 06:20 PM
May 2013

He meant to send it as a direct message. He accidentally tweeted it. He sent it to a "21 year old college student" according to the CNN video below. And there is no dispute that his wife was pregnant at the time.

You believe it is about sex. It's actually about honesty. Many of us posting in this thread were political "friends." He went on TV more than once and lied his ass off hoping that it would go away. We took his word for it and said it was a "smear" and a lie. Turns out he was the smear merchant and he was the lier.



You are welcome to support anyone you want in an election. Your vote sometimes says something about you. In this case it says that you're willing to vote for someone sending pictures of his junk to young women while his pregnant wife was working and someone that lied repeatedly to cover it up. If he's willing to his wife, he's willing to lie to you.

PlanetBev

(4,411 posts)
40. Jeebus, what drives these guys?
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:35 AM
May 2013

You'd think what he went through would have convinced him to steer clear of public life and take a low profile.

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
50. The political perk life is so exclusive, it's like making a wealthy person poor. It's awful to be..
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:14 PM
May 2013

not important anymore. It's a life they crave and desperately want back.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
49. If his wife forgave him
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:13 PM
May 2013

that's good enough for me. I always felt, as with Eliot Spitzer, it was more about shutting down their passionate political stances than any sexual piccadilos (sp?). They are both guilty of huge egos, but were on the right side of issues. Fearless.

marshall

(6,706 posts)
60. Bravo! He's exactly what New York needs
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:53 PM
May 2013

Hopefully he can put an end to the senseless bureacracy that is eating away at the city.

madville

(7,847 posts)
61. Newsom was able to get past his sex scandal
Wed May 22, 2013, 12:54 PM
May 2013

and make a comeback in CA, Weiner could be able to do it in NY. Clinton got past his. People don't rank lying about one's sex life all that high these days.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
64. This guy needs to find another career.
Wed May 22, 2013, 01:11 PM
May 2013

suggestions: used car salesman, male stripper, or perhaps a hot dog vendor.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
72. I'd vote for him
Wed May 22, 2013, 03:51 PM
May 2013

He's strong enough to flex muscles and not be beholden to any political machine.

Golden Raisin

(4,755 posts)
73. He exhibited an
Wed May 22, 2013, 04:14 PM
May 2013

entitled fratboy’s sensibilities, betrayed his own supposed high intelligence, literally couldn’t keep his dick in his pants, and then LIED publicly and repeatedly about it. The perfect storm for a USA politician. I don’t care about his personal/private/sex life but his stupidity, arrogance, immaturity and lying add up to someone totally untrustworthy. Nor do I think he’s “seen the light” and grown up. He seems driven by ambition and arrogance. I wouldn’t vote for him for dog-catcher. I’m sure there’s a nice, comfy corporate berth somewhere for him. We already have enough lying politicians.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
77. Um, his dick never left his office. Photos are not the same thing as eg, actually using it. Cyber
Wed May 22, 2013, 06:01 PM
May 2013

sex is legal last I heard, and we are Dems who don't hypocritically condemn people for engaging in sex inside or outside their marriages. It simply is none of our business. Like Clinton, it was not our business as the public eventually decided.

I am far more concerned with what kind of record on progressive issues a politician has, and Weiner's for the most part, was one of the best. That's all he promised the voters and he kept those promises. His personal sex life is his and his wife's business, and she seems to not share your 'concerns'.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
79. I agree... Progressive issues are more important now than ever.... We have Democrats voting
Wed May 22, 2013, 06:13 PM
May 2013

to cut food stamps....

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
80. Republicans would love him if he was a Republican..Switch your party..the Re thugs will vote for you
Wed May 22, 2013, 06:17 PM
May 2013

then while in office switch back to Democrat.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
84. Vitter the prostitute john got to stay. Sanford in SC just got back in. Weiner never consumated
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:11 PM
May 2013

though he did lie. Bill Clinton is now beloved by Dems who can't get enough of him. I think if this guy has repented and gotten counseling, he has earned a second chance too.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
85. His campaign slogan: Vote Weiner! Let it all hang out!
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:29 PM
May 2013

Seriously, between this clown, Vitter and Sanford, I miss the days when disgraced politicians stayed disgraced.

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