Reid appears to back away from "nuclear option" on fillibusters
Source: NBC News
With one of President Barack Obamas key nominees on the verge of being confirmed by the Senate on Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid appeared to edge away Wednesday from an idea that some Democrats are calling for: enacting a change in Senate rules to stop filibusters which delay votes on Obama appointees.
During a debate on the Senate floor with Republican Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell, Reid said, "I'm not saying we're going to change the rules" regarding the filibuster, but argued that the Senate must move faster to confirm Obama nominees.
He accused Republicans of slow-walking nominees and bogging them down by submitting hundreds and, in one case, a thousand written questions to the nominee before the confirmation vote could occur.
Read more: http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/22/18425950-reid-appears-to-back-away-from-nuclear-option-on-filibusters?lite
Republicans are using the fillibuster to simply delay for months even those judges who were unanimously approved by both parties in the judiciary committee. I was happy to see Reid showing some spine on this issue earlier, but - surprise surprise - he now seems to be getting wobbly.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)it's obvious to everyone that he's never going to do anything about it.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)Mr. David
(535 posts)and let someone with BALLS take care of the filibuster issues.
Reid has been nothing but a milquetoast Democrat for a very long time.
4dsc
(5,787 posts)But I say fuck 2014 and lets get the people's business done today.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The Republicans will kill the filibuster as soon as they have a majority.
24601
(3,962 posts)when it takes 2/3 to override a veto?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)It lets them blame all problems on Obama. Can't get a veto without passing a bill.
rurallib
(62,448 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)And he certainly wouldn't do anything to reform the filibuster.
unblock
(52,326 posts)it's starting to seem a bit like roe v. wade for republicans. they actually don't want it to go away because it's such a great fund-raiser, rallying point, and vote-getter for them.
I think reid trots this out whenever he feels republicans are frustrating him "too much" and this gets them to back off just enough.
so now it's a weapon in reid's political arsenal and he doesn't really want to give it up.
tblue
(16,350 posts)if that's what he's doing. We got serious problems. And this method he's using is a disaster. It ain't working.
Stuckinthebush
(10,847 posts)and paint me surprised.
Stuart G
(38,448 posts)Last edited Wed May 22, 2013, 07:07 PM - Edit history (1)
How could he go back on his word???
AGAIN?
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Because, just like real nuclear weapons, the plan only gets used once, creates great destruction, and ensures that your opponent will attempt to use the same weapon against you, with overwhelming force, practically guaranteeing your own eventual destruction as well.
Furthermore, Harry Reid and President Obama, working as a team, have managed to generate an unusually strong list of achievements over the past three years by simply turning the greed and small-mindedness of Republicans against themselves. Reid did a much better job of holding back the Bush Administration with the filibuster than Republicans have done against us, because Republicans specialize in exploiting laws and rules, rather than working within them.
Worse, there is always the chance that Republicans, who work best outside of the laws they pretend to create, will steal elections until they regain control of the Senate, at exactly the same time that Jeb Bush must win election in order to control eight years' worth of incriminating documents generated by his idiot brother.
At which point we become the Fourth Reich, because there will be no way to slow them down as Harry Reid did for eight long, miserable years.
The filibuster is our game, and as long as the Republicans are forced to play it (with the inherent disadvantages their malevolence imposes), we retain the initiative. Take it away from Republicans now and they will immediately return to the extralegal means they prefer, until they can use the new conditions against us.
Or, you can say Harry Reid is a spineless coward and walk away, which increases the chances that Reid will actually have to resort to this option someday and eventually doom us all.
tblue
(16,350 posts)is STILL Senate Majority Leader!!!! How? Why??? He's an embarrassment and he does not represent the Democratic Wing of anything.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)mpcamb
(2,875 posts)He belongs in the garbage heap of history.
What a useless excuse.
Get it done you spineless b@$+@rd and get done talking if there's any semblance of backbone in you.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)My wife told them she's filibustering until Harry Reid is replaced with a leader.
tblue
(16,350 posts)But I started filibustering long before this.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)He usually does what he says.
Reid needs to go, we need someone who isn't afraid to stand up to McConnell and the Republicans. Reid must have left his spine at home in Nevada.
We can't afford to play footsie with the GOP any longer, we've already wasted too much time. They haven't kept their word, no reason to expect they will going forward. We need new blood, new commitment, and someone with reserves of strength Reid apparently doesn't have.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)They need to turn that searchlight on and see if they can find Harry's balls and his spine. He lost them before he ever got to be leader of the senate! Reid is a pathetic JOKE of a "leader". I wish I could say that straight to his face!
tblue
(16,350 posts)I never thought he meant it. And I don't care what excuse he makes for his inaction. Reid is worse than useless. I am so tired of having no leadership in the Senate.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)No one could have predicted...
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... going to have his backbone operation?
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)You're either worthless or complicit (I would bet on the latter)
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)*sigh*
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)Counterpoint PA
(275 posts)decisions on this have been beyond disappointing, I don't have my hopes up for a reversal of course.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)babylonsister
(171,092 posts)Harry Reid escalates `nuclear threat
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)day as the NBC article that contradicts the NBC one. Hm.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)the other is not. I know which one I find more likely to be accurate.
And I've been following these articles very carefully and one thing I've noticed is that in recent days the discussion has turned to using the nuclear option only for executive nominations like the EPA head, instead of judicial nominations.
It all points to a future cave-in to me. I hope I'm wrong since there's nothing I'd like to see more than for hard-ball to finally be played with the Republicans. But I doubt I am.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)He and Obama are a perfect pair to lead the party to destruction.
villager
(26,001 posts)Might start to be some questions, then
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)Coward.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)it is worn out, old and threadbare. Reid has said this so many times and done nothing, who even cares anymore?