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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:36 PM May 2013

Obama calls on Congress to allow transfer of GITMO detainees

Source: TPM

From text of today's Counterterrorism speech:

Today, I once again call on Congress to lift the restrictions on detainee transfers from GTMO. I have asked the Department of Defense to designate a site in the United States where we can hold military commissions. I am appointing a new, senior envoy at the State Department and Defense Department whose sole responsibility will be to achieve the transfer of detainees to third countries.

I am lifting the moratorium on detainee transfers to Yemen, so we can review them on a case by case basis. To the greatest extent possible, we will transfer detainees who have been cleared to go to other countries. Where appropriate, we will bring terrorists to justice in our courts and military justice system. And we will insist that judicial review be available for every detainee.

Even after we take these steps, one issue will remain: how to deal with those GTMO detainees who we know have participated in dangerous plots or attacks, but who cannot be prosecuted – for example because the evidence against them has been compromised or is inadmissible in a court of law. But once we commit to a process of closing GTMO, I am confident that this legacy problem can be resolved, consistent with our commitment to the rule of law.

I know the politics are hard. But history will cast a harsh judgment on this aspect of our fight against terrorism, and those of us who fail to end it. Imagine a future – ten years from now, or twenty years from now – when the United States of America is still holding people who have been charged with no crime on a piece of land that is not a part of our country. Look at the current situation, where we are force-feeding detainees who are holding a hunger strike. Is that who we are? Is that something that our Founders foresaw? Is that the America we want to leave to our children?

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/read-transcript-of-obamas-speech-on-counterterrorism-policy



"legacy problem" -- Sounds like he means it.
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Obama calls on Congress to allow transfer of GITMO detainees (Original Post) ucrdem May 2013 OP
I guess most here would just rather just keep complaining about how Obama disappointed them on GITMO kelliekat44 May 2013 #1
I think he's going to double-down on this one ucrdem May 2013 #2
Each detainee at Guantanamo Bay costs taxpayers $900,000 per year Tx4obama May 2013 #3
The FACTS regarding GITMO, Obama, and Congress (for those that do not know them) Tx4obama May 2013 #4
thanks Tx4obama! ucrdem May 2013 #5
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
1. I guess most here would just rather just keep complaining about how Obama disappointed them on GITMO
Thu May 23, 2013, 03:03 PM
May 2013

Nevermind who really get to rule on this.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
2. I think he's going to double-down on this one
Thu May 23, 2013, 03:07 PM
May 2013

and shut it down while he's got a ghost of a chance. The next pres will be in the same boat he was for four years, and might not even want to shut it down to begin with.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. Each detainee at Guantanamo Bay costs taxpayers $900,000 per year
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:19 PM
May 2013

Gitmo Price Tag Jumps By $200M As Obama Renews Push For Closure

The most expensive prison in the world recently became even more costly. The Guantanamo Bay prison is badly in need of renovation and it’s going to cost the American taxpayer nearly $200 million to do it.

“The mess hall, the barracks for my military personnel down there are just ramshackle,” Southern Command commander Gen. John Kelly told Foreign Policy this week. “No one thought (Gitmo) would be open this long, so they didn’t build any accommodations for the troops.”

That $200 million is on top of the $150 million it costs each year — setting aside the moral, tactical and strategic costs — to operate the prison and military court system — that’s around $900,000 per detainee. To put that number into perspective, the Federal government pays around $60,000 per inmate, per year in a maximum security prison and an average of $30,000 across all federal prisons.

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Full article here: http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/21/2043861/gitmo-cost-close/


Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
4. The FACTS regarding GITMO, Obama, and Congress (for those that do not know them)
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:43 PM
May 2013

The reason GITMO is still open is because of CONGRESS, not Obama.

Read the updates, from the bottom of the page upwards here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/177/close-the-guantanamo-bay-detention-center/



Note: Regarding Politifact ratings: An important point about Obameter ratings: A Promise Broken rating does not necessarily constitute failure or mean that Obama failed to be an advocate for his promises. He could exert tremendous effort to fulfill any given promise but it could still die because of opposition in Congress. <SNIP> http://www.politifact.com/about/

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. thanks Tx4obama!
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:55 PM
May 2013

Always worth pointing that out. He might even get the same result as last time, but people expect him to fix it anyway. So do I, and I think his chances of success this time are much better, maybe 75% realistically, because the threat has gone way down and people are starting to forget about 911. Most people under 18 either don't remember it or have only fuzzy childhood memories of the actual events. Strange huh?

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