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R Merm

(444 posts)
Mon May 27, 2013, 09:40 AM May 2013

Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

Source: NY Times

When CVFC, a conservative veterans’ group in California, applied for tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, its biggest expenditure that year was several thousand dollars in radio ads backing a Republican candidate for Congress.

The Wetumpka Tea Party, from Alabama, sponsored training for a get-out-the-vote initiative dedicated to the “defeat of President Barack Obama” while the I.R.S. was weighing its application.

And the head of the Ohio Liberty Coalition, whose application languished with the I.R.S. for more than two years, sent out e-mails to members about Mitt Romney campaign events and organized members to distribute Mr. Romney’s presidential campaign literature.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/us/politics/nonprofit-applicants-chafing-at-irs-tested-political-limits.html?hp



Well here is a surprise.
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Berlum

(7,044 posts)
1. Scofflaws & Greedhead Tax Dodgers (R)
Mon May 27, 2013, 10:03 AM
May 2013

RepubliBaggers lying & weasling to avoid their responsibilities. As usual.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
2. Why isn't there an
Mon May 27, 2013, 10:11 AM
May 2013

investigation, to see if there was outside pressure from politicians to clear these groups? It is very surprising and I might even say suspicious, all these groups were cleared by the IRS. I just wonder why Lerner found it necessary to apologize only to conservative groups and I also think the IG itself has to be questioned. I think this because he was reporting back to Isa. How is that independent of his influence? Why does he need to report to anyone during his investigation?

ashling

(25,771 posts)
3. I just wonder why Lerner found it necessary to apologize only to conservative groups
Mon May 27, 2013, 10:24 AM
May 2013

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
4. I also think this is a good point.
Mon May 27, 2013, 11:09 AM
May 2013

I just wonder why Lerner found it necessary to apologize only to conservative groups

Put the words Taxed Enough Already in your name and then complain when the IRS investigates? Those words are a challenge to the IRS, an invitation to an investigation. Why the surprise?

greymattermom

(5,807 posts)
5. they should investigate all of them
Mon May 27, 2013, 11:11 AM
May 2013

This activity is clearly illegal. No need to target, it will take care of itself. Citizen volunteers could help.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
13. Citizen volunteers?
Mon May 27, 2013, 01:19 PM
May 2013

It is illegal for non-IRS personnel to view other people's/organizations' tax matters without permission.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
6. More than a few were spanked during the primary's.....
Mon May 27, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

including Rove's groups I think they're mostly upset because they found they couldn't get a tax deduction for the antics. Unregulated donations amounts a 501c3 would give them vs the caps on political giving is the real problem.

aggiesal

(10,801 posts)
7. Couldn't get a tax deduction for the antics?
Mon May 27, 2013, 12:20 PM
May 2013

I thought each and every request was approved.

mwooldri

(10,818 posts)
11. 501c3 stays out of politics. 501c4 can as a sideshow.
Mon May 27, 2013, 12:30 PM
May 2013

It's hard keeping up with these 501-whatnots... Besides I would consider any organization that is a non-profit to be a CHARITY. Mr. Rove's organizations need a different name: The American Society for the Prevention of Financial Losses by Wealthy Citizens Engaging in Politics. I wish I could have come up with a nice acronym but I got better things to think about right now.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
9. hence why Stephen Colbert pointed out they don't need to ask the IRS
Mon May 27, 2013, 12:27 PM
May 2013

although strangely enough it puts them in the spotlight. basically I assume they do they to pick a fight whenever they had planned on doing so.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
10. If conservatives do something wrong, they blame Democrats
Mon May 27, 2013, 12:28 PM
May 2013

It's like a guy who breaks the law and blames the cops cuz they caught him.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. probably testing and fronts for tax free work for the giant republican 'charities'
Mon May 27, 2013, 01:39 PM
May 2013

bunch of leeches, freeloaders.

Crazy how the republicans want tax free attacks against America AND hurt real legit charities, who need donations to survive.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
16. They didn't "test" the rules. They ignored them.
Mon May 27, 2013, 01:51 PM
May 2013

501(c)(4) is for charities whose mission requires political activity, but political activity can't be their sole focus. The American Red Cross, maybe...they might have to lobby in support of additional FEMA funding, say, but most of what they do isn't political.(The Red Cross is actually a 501(c)(3) but they were the first charity I could think of.)

Tea Party groups are specifically political groups. That is all they do.

DallasNE

(8,007 posts)
17. There Is A Reason The Law Says "Exclusively"
Mon May 27, 2013, 02:09 PM
May 2013

There is no reason for the current IRS "clarification" that says exclusively means primarily. That was a political decision by Eisenhower that was completely arbitrary. The current IRS director could rescind that, going back to the actual language in the law, but that will never happen Republicans will never stand for it. If the issue was truly tax-exempt status then these groups could reapply as PAC's. It's not. The only issue is keeping the donor lists secret. The reason is clear. These donors want to avoid a backlash for their political activity. Look at what happened with Olive Garden when they announced they were cutting workers hours to avoid provisions of Obamacare. The boycott hit their bottom line, as it should. These people simply want their cake and eat it too.

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