France considers electronic cigarette ban in public places
Source: The Guardian
Famous French smokers including the actor Catherine Deneuve and the novelist enfant terrible Michel Houellebecq have both publicly puffed on fake plastic slims while trying to give up smoking and retain a modicum of cool. But France's love affair with electronic cigarettes could be about to hit a major stumbling block as the government considers banning them from all public places, including restaurants and bars.
The battery-powered devices which let users inhale a vaporized liquid nicotine solution instead of tobacco smoke are the subject of a major medical report commissioned by the French health ministry and delivered on Tuesday.
The nation of Gauloises and Gitanes is showing an ever-growing dependence on electronic cigarettes, which were first produced in China in 2004 and allow smokers to get a nicotine fix without exposing themselves or others to the toxins, tar and carbon monoxide in tobacco smoke. Industry statistics show at least 500,000 people smoke e-cigarettes in France but Bertrand Dautzenberg, the professor who led the report suggested there could already be as many as 1 million people using them in France. The market is reportedly worth €100m (£85m) in France with around 150 specialist shops.
The medical experts recommended that e-cigarettes should be subject to the same restrictions as tobacco in France and therefore "banned from all the places where smoking is banned." France outlawed smoking in the workplace, including bars and restaurants, over the course of 2007 and 2008. Doctors also want the sale of e-cigarettes to under-18s to be banned, warning that the electronic devices could be "a potential gateway to smoking tobacco." A recent study in Paris found that 64% of teenagers aged between 12 and 14 who had tried an electronic cigarette had not yet smoked a real one. A growing number of UK secondary schools have reportedly begun to ban e-cigarettes over fears they lead to smoking tobacco.
Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/28/france-electronic-cigarette-ban-public-places
There's no right to blow filth in everyone else's faces. Good on France.
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The FDA study specifically says, the e-cancers it tested had "diethylene glycol, a chemical used in antifreeze that is toxic to humans, and in several other samples, the FDA analyses detected carcinogens, including nitrosamines."
As to what's in e-cancers today, no one knows, as the CDC study makes clear, because "
d)ue to the lack of regulation, no one knows how much nicotine and other substances are in the different e-cigarettes, and manufacturers have not had to provide any scientific evidence to support their claims or to comply with public health regulations intended to protect consumers from deceptive claims."
had "diethylene glycol, a chemical used in antifreeze that is toxic to humans, and in several other samples, the FDA analyses detected carcinogens, including nitrosamines."
As to what's in e-cancers today, no one knows, as the CDC study makes clear, because " d)ue to the lack of regulation, no one knows how much nicotine and other substances are in the different e-cigarettes, and manufacturers have not had to provide any scientific evidence to support their claims or to comply with public health regulations intended to protect consumers from deceptive claims."
Damn, cstanleytech. You're so concerned you're going to get hornswoggled, you neglect to read the studies you're so adamant don't say what they do.
Check out Scopolamine, that will fuck you up 
Love it
It looks similar to something unhealthy, so let's scream and shriek, have a moral panic, act like complete destructive idiots and crush people's freedoms.
Started within a year of being on Chantix. If you have the genetic tendency forthese issues - it looks like it aids in triggering it. That crap literally changes the way your brain works - how it perceives pleasure and pain.
If you are still smoking - go to 7-11 today and just try an njoy. Doesn't matter ifyou blow through one in a day. Get off the chemicals as quickly as you can. 
I've gone from nearly a pack a day (everyday for the past 12 years) of 'analogs' down to 1 or 2, typically one in the morning, and 1/2 after lunch, 1/2 after dinner. My wife is so very pleased. The smokes I do have are starting to taste worse and worse to me, I anticipate being completely off the 'stinkies' in the next week or two. Wish me luck
This law is, imho, a joke, btw. The vapor these things produce *completely* dissipates into thin air within 5 seconds from when it is blown out, it's just water with a tiny % of nicotine and flavoring ... no tar, CO, or any of the other carcinogens involved with tobacco. And since there's no particulate matter involved, there's no 'lingering smoke' effect like happens with regular cigarette smoking, none of the smell, etc.
The only way you'd know someone is using one near you is if they blew the vapor directly into your face, and they were using a strongly 'flavored' liquid (like, say, strawberry) ... and even then, you'd just barely notice a faint whiff of the smell of the flavoring is all.
I suspect the people on here cheering on this law have never been around someone using e-cigs. I smoke mine in the closed up car with my wife (and she HATES cig smoke) and the vapor doesn't bother her a bit.
