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elleng

(130,895 posts)
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:14 PM May 2013

Senator John McCain Confident of Identifying 'Good Guys' in Syria.

Source: nyt/reuters

U.S. Senator John McCain said on Wednesday, two days after meeting with rebels in Syria, that he is confident the United States can send weapons to fighters in Syria without the risk they will fall into the wrong hands.

"We can identify who these people are. We can help the right people," McCain said on CNN's program "Anderson Cooper 360." . .

Critics of some lawmakers' push to arm the rebels have expressed concerns that weapons could end up in the hands of militants who might eventually end up using them against the United States or its allies.

But McCain said such radical fighters make up only a small part of the rebels forces.





Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2013/05/29/us/29reuters-syria-crisis-mccain.html?hp

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Senator John McCain Confident of Identifying 'Good Guys' in Syria. (Original Post) elleng May 2013 OP
This idiot's statements would be funny if the consequences were not so tragic. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #1
This fucking guy needs to take a thousand dollars to Atlantic City cliffordu May 2013 #2
There's political reality? merrily May 2013 #27
heh... Ohio Joe May 2013 #3
This is the same guy who chose Sarah Palin as a running mate. asjr May 2013 #4
Yup, elleng May 2013 #5
Uh huh...tell me, are they Shiite or Sunni? brooklynite May 2013 #6
Which ones does Iran hate? merrily May 2013 #28
sums it up SummerSnow May 2013 #7
Excellent....Thanks. russspeakeasy May 2013 #11
BREAKING NEWS: John McCain said to use the "Eenie-Miney-Moe" method sakabatou May 2013 #8
War war war war war war war war.. hibbing May 2013 #9
Doncha mean.... AlbertCat May 2013 #12
Give me some advice from someone whose judgment we can trust Jack Rabbit May 2013 #10
Remember when McCain went to Baghdad? JDPriestly May 2013 #37
Old man yells at moon nt MrScorpio May 2013 #13
Yeah, we gave our weapons to the good guys Rozlee May 2013 #14
Why is McCain so obsessed with Syria? Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #15
Because there's a war going on there, and US might get involved??? elleng May 2013 #16
Syria was one of the countries that Bush's handlers listed for invasion dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #38
I guess Afghanistan was about the pipeline too Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #40
Yeah, it was. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #43
Ah, John McCain, senior statesman... freshwest May 2013 #17
Kicking your thread with the original Indian dance video. No clue what's being said here: freshwest May 2013 #18
I LOVE Benny Lava! Scootaloo May 2013 #30
Why does he want another war? hrmjustin May 2013 #19
'Because?' elleng May 2013 #20
McCain John2 May 2013 #32
Like in Afghanistan? Adsos Letter May 2013 #21
Yep! lark May 2013 #39
His judgment CitizenPatriot May 2013 #22
A reporter caught a brief bit of his discussing war experiences with the "right" people... jtuck004 May 2013 #23
Bin Laden was a "good guy" that we helped back in the 80's Kablooie May 2013 #24
McCain's record on Iraq: eager to attack. - Politifact moondust May 2013 #25
This May Be McCain's Desire DallasNE May 2013 #26
Well, McCain's instincts about people ARE uncanny. merrily May 2013 #29
Let GW Bush go over there and look into their souls Rain Mcloud May 2013 #31
Just like Afghanistan were we able to only help the good guys like the Taliban and Osama bin Laden. Botany May 2013 #33
The good news is... Island Deac May 2013 #34
And the punchline comes from Cali's Buzzfeed post: Mc Mike May 2013 #35
Identifying them is not the hard part. Keeping weapons you give them from eventually ending up pampango May 2013 #36
Unreal. CrazyOrangeCat May 2013 #41
Is he going to call upon the experise of his little buddy Lindsey? Tom Ripley May 2013 #42

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
2. This fucking guy needs to take a thousand dollars to Atlantic City
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
May 2013

and see who the good guys on the boardwalk are.

He REALLY needs to get off my political reality.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
9. War war war war war war war war..
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:49 PM
May 2013

Hey,
And now I am sure he will be on the Sunday shows once again spewing his idiotic blather. I wish he would just go away.

Peace

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
12. Doncha mean....
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:53 PM
May 2013

"bomb bomb bomb...bomb bomb Iran..."

(Syria....Iran....who cares? They're all full o' Arabs....)

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
10. Give me some advice from someone whose judgment we can trust
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:49 PM
May 2013

McCain still thinks the war against Iraq was a good idea. Enough said.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
37. Remember when McCain went to Baghdad?
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:17 AM
May 2013

Mr. McCain was asked about a comment he made on a radio program in which he said that he could walk freely through certain areas of Baghdad.

“I just came from one,” he replied sharply. “Things are better and there are encouraging signs.”

He added, “Never have I been able to go out into the city as I was today.”

Told about Mr. McCain’s assessment of the market, Abu Samer, a kitchenware and clothing wholesaler, scoffed: “He is just using this visit for publicity. He is just using it for himself. They’ll just take a photo of him at our market and they will just show it in the United States. He will win in America and we will have nothing.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/world/middleeast/03mccain.html?_r=0

That he did not become president is really one of the best things that ever happened to our country. Can you imagine???

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
38. Syria was one of the countries that Bush's handlers listed for invasion
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:59 PM
May 2013

on the old Project for a New American Century documents.
The plan was to block and contain Russian and China, from energy resources, and to control those resources
( gas, oil, pipelines, ports) in the Middle East.


The maps tell all.When in doubt, look at the maps for key ports, key energy sectors and pipelines.



January 27, 2011

Syria eyes pipelines through Iraq

DAMASCUS, Syria, Damascus could invite investors to build oil and natural gas pipelines that would cross Syrian and Iraqi territory, the Syrian oil minister said.


A pipeline connecting Iraq and Syria through Kirkuk in northern Iraq to the Mediterranean port of Banias was closed in the 1970s because of political spats between the two countries. Opened again in 2000, the pipeline was shut down in 2003 after it was hit by U.S. airstrikes.
Baghdad wants to build and repair pipelines connected to its neighbors to handle the expected volumes of oil and natural gas under development in Iraq.
Most of Iraq's oil heads through Turkish ports currently and there are plans to upgrade existing export arteries. In terms of Syria, officials said new pipelines have been on the table for years, but there was new momentum building in Baghdad, the Platts news service reports.
http://articlesofinterest-kelley.blogspot.com/2011/01/syria-eyes-pipelines-through-iraq.html

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Kicking your thread with the original Indian dance video. No clue what's being said here:
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:39 PM
May 2013


We dodged the bullet in 2008, or this wouldn't be funny now.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
30. I LOVE Benny Lava!
Thu May 30, 2013, 04:27 AM
May 2013

It's no Tunak Tunak Tun, or "Punjabi Thriller" but it's still amazingly entertaining

elleng

(130,895 posts)
20. 'Because?'
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:53 PM
May 2013


Thinks as there is a war, somehow US ought to be in it? Couldn't POSSIBLY leave it to the rest of the world to try to resolve?


 

John2

(2,730 posts)
32. McCain
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:05 AM
May 2013

is a rightwing warmonger. He want stop with trying to over throw the Syrian Government, the next will be Iran and then North Korea. The U.S. will continue to fight his Wars as long as this man is given any power. If it was up to him, we would redo Vietnam.

We can give these people weapons but so can Syria's allies give their side more lethal weapons. The opposition are nothing be paid murderers and killers for people like McCain.
I define it as similar to a mafia with many different Bosses. McCain and his Party, does not care about the welfare of Syrians. He doesn't even care about Arabs in his own Country. Just look at this guy King from New York. Look at many of his Republican Party. Look at his votes for Israel, when he has a choice on human Rights abuses and the settler issue within the Gaza Strip. He is the same guy while running for President, went to South Carolina and praised the Confederacy. I would study McCain's votes while he was in congress because he has been there a long time. What was his votes concerning apartheid African and Mandela's group? Did he also consider them Terrorists in support of white supremacy. It will be very easy to out this phony on human rights when it comes to causes.

lark

(23,097 posts)
39. Yep!
Thu May 30, 2013, 03:04 PM
May 2013

We thought we'd made a brilliant move in giving money to OBL in Afghanistan, look what a great family he came from! His people are in partnerships with the Bushes, he's a safe bet.

I really hope we aren't that stupid a 2nd time around. Don't arm them, we don't know enough about them to take this risk!!!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
23. A reporter caught a brief bit of his discussing war experiences with the "right" people...
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:23 AM
May 2013

"Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where was I... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones... "

or maybe that was Grandpa Simpson - they seem so similar.

I can't help but wonder if their best move would be to send McCain to their enemies...


Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
24. Bin Laden was a "good guy" that we helped back in the 80's
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:24 AM
May 2013

We gave him weapons to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan.

Look how well that turned out.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
25. McCain's record on Iraq: eager to attack. - Politifact
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:31 AM
May 2013

Obama in 2008: "Sen. McCain was already turning his sights to Iraq just days after 9/11, and he became a leading supporter of an invasion and occupation of (Iraq)."

Politifact: True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/aug/21/barack-obama/mccains-record-on-iraq-eager-to-attack/

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
26. This May Be McCain's Desire
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:31 AM
May 2013

Besides, I don't see how he can be so sure of himself when he claims "radical fighters make up only a small part of the rebel forces". I would prefer to see any weapons sent (and not that many at that) be given to Turkey with the understands they were to be distributed to Syrian rebel forces. I just don't think it would be wise to be so directly involved as McCain proposes.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. Well, McCain's instincts about people ARE uncanny.
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:44 AM
May 2013


If English is his first language and the U.S. is his culture, and Palin had a public record, and he misjudged Palin by that much, just imagine how well he will do discerning which rebels are the "good guys?"

Has he even considered the possibility that none of them might be good guys, just power hungry, sectarian guys?

Botany

(70,501 posts)
33. Just like Afghanistan were we able to only help the good guys like the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:26 AM
May 2013
Now why is McCain doing US foreign policy again?

Island Deac

(104 posts)
34. The good news is...
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:41 AM
May 2013

he wasn't flying an aircraft that he could crash. He didn't get held in the Syrian Sheraton and made out to be a hero. He was hoping, I guess, for history to repeat itself. Too bad loser.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
36. Identifying them is not the hard part. Keeping weapons you give them from eventually ending up
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:04 AM
May 2013

in the hands of 'bad guys' is the problem. I doubt McCain has an answer for that.

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