New IRS head says taxpayers no longer trust agency
Source: AP-Excite
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
WASHINGTON (AP) - His agency under relentless fire, the new head of the Internal Revenue Service acknowledged to Congress on Monday that American taxpayers no longer trust the IRS amid a growing number of scandals - from the targeting of conservative political groups to lavish spending on employee conferences.
But Acting Commissioner Danny Werfel declared he was "committed to restoring that trust." He said he has installed new leadership at the agency and is conducting a thorough review of what went wrong and how to fix it.
He promised the transparency that was lacking for several years as tea party groups complained about harassment by the IRS, only to be met with denials from the agency.
"We must have the trust of the American taxpayer. Unfortunately, that trust has been broken," Werfel told a House Appropriations subcommittee in his first public appearance since taking over the agency nearly two weeks ago. "The agency stands ready to confront the problems that occurred, hold accountable those who acted inappropriately, be open about what happened, and permanently fix these problems so that such missteps do not occur again."
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Acting IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel, left, accompanied by Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration J. Russell George, testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Monday, June 3, 2013, before the House Appropriations subcommittee on Financial Services and General Government hearing regarding a report that the IRS spent about $50 million to hold at least 220 conferences for employees between 2010 and 2012. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
Orrex
(63,229 posts)Golly! That's some nice ahead-of-the-curve thinking, Dan!
it's like-we did, when?
malthaussen
(17,217 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)He came out the very first day and apologized for something that deserved no apology at all.
Now he has his people out trying to undermine public confidence in the IRS. Unless you are a corrupt political henchman trying to abuse the tax code. none of this changes your relationship with the IRS at all.
Why is Obama working so hard to run the Republican's playbook for them?
tridim
(45,358 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)What did the IRS do wrong? This crap has been going on for several weeks now and I still haven't heard the first bit of evidence of anything being done wrong by the IRS.
marshall
(6,665 posts)Don't make the mistake of thinking we know more about this than the President.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Are you suggesting that how the IRS conducted reviews of applications for social welfare organizations is a State Secret that would endanger the nation if the President were to say what this great secret is?
marshall
(6,665 posts)He has access to far more information than we do. So when we try to second guess what he is doing, we are basing it off of the incomplete, if not totally innacurate, information that we have access to.
malthaussen
(17,217 posts)It seems an over-eager exercise in apologetics to suggest that information is being withheld by the Administration in a case such as this. Furthermore, if the IRS were guilty of wrongdoing, it would be well to state exactly what it is they have done wrong. Or at least, you know, a general idea. "What's the charge, officer?" is not a question that can have any impact on future prosecution.
-- Mal
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Officer: You were driving inelegantly.
Citizen: What does that mean?
Officer: It means you were not driving in a correct manner.
Citizen: Was I breaking any laws?
Officer: This is not how we expect people to drive.
Citizen: Help me out here. Can you tell me exactly where my 'inelegant driving' happened and when?
Officer: Oh I think that is obvious to everybody
Citizen: Can you at least give me a hint as to what general part of the driving laws I might have "been inelegant" about?
Officer: All of it. It was all wrong.
etc. etc. etc.
We're now three weeks into it, countless thousands of hours of investigations and cable coverage, and still not one person has actually identified any specific thing that was done wrong. How hard would it be to say exactly what the gripe is?
BumRushDaShow
(129,642 posts)notably a tax code change...? Especially since the paid-for Congress keeps dipping and dodging around such and doesn't really want to address it...?
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)He has talked about eliminating loopholes for businesses.
How does trashing the IRS, and in particular trashing the Cincinnati division that is only concerned with charitable and social welfare organizations, make it easier to get changes in other areas of the tax code?
If anything, it seems that this would make it easier for Rove and company to make legal the things that they have been doing illegally regarding 501(c)(4)s.
BumRushDaShow
(129,642 posts)Congress does. And Congress has avoided discussing any meaningful tax reform, let alone how to prepare for that tax reform.
Recall that under Shrub, tax collection was privatized - http://www.irs.gov/uac/IRS-Conducts-Extensive-Review,-Decides-Not-to-Renew-Private-Debt-Collection-Contracts and they are still working themselves out of that - http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-10-963
A previous poster noted that this focus may end up strengthening the agency for the long haul as Shrub essentially gutted them.
RW thugs are shallow thinkers. This can go far beyond the noise about tax exempt entities and into more of the meat of what the agency does, how it will do it, and under what authorities.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)OK, Obama doesn't legislate. But he is using every power of his office to undermine the legitimacy of the IRS. How does that help him -- or any other Democratic body -- to pass legislation that would actually be helpful?
Do you think trashing the IRS, saying that they were full of misconduct, helps us pass legislation that would curtail abuses of the 501(C)(4) status?
Do you think it gets us any closer to getting laws passed that will force giant corporations to pay their fair share?
What, exactly, does Obama accomplish by trashing the IRS?
I have heard about his 3-dimensional chess. I'm just not seeing it.
PSPS
(13,620 posts)This whole thing is a non sequitur. The only conclusion I can come to is that, when the IRS started interfering with the corruption shenanigans of these fake "social welfare" fronts, everyone on both sides of the isle plus Obama himself were told to come to heel by the true forces of corruption. In other words, the theater that is supposed to be our "democracy" went off its script.
I guess this is just another example of the top 0.01% pulling all the strings, since these "social welfare" fronts are their primary means of laundering the billions of dollars they use to corrupt the government.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,642 posts)as it does the whole hoard of peanut-gallery me-toos.
What evidence is there of the assertion that "he uses every power of his office to undermine the legitimacy of the IRS"? This is just silly. This testimony was at an appropriations committee hearing (= money for FY14 budget). Again, as previous posters have noted, there are vestiages of Shrub's & Rove's turds infested in the agency - many of whom were appointees mass-converted to civil service on Shrub's way out. But you knew that, right?
Continually tossing out the juvenile "3-dimensional chess" meme is well past old.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Like looking at the Queen in the beehive for the wealthy knowing you're going to get a hell of a sting.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)well thats what they claim all along fronting for a political party, i.e. GOP and DEMS.
From all this bullshit the IRS will be stronger and will probably get the needed personnel. So therefore, Issa (who knew) a year ago has helped them while trying to tie Pres O like Nixon to the IRS.
blm
(113,103 posts)Bush left behind some real huge stink bombs at every agency, including the IRS.
BumRushDaShow
(129,642 posts)yourout
(7,534 posts)offices cleaned out when Obama had his hand on the bible.
BumRushDaShow
(129,642 posts)blm
(113,103 posts)Dept of Interior.
The list goes on.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)We never trusted the IRS to fairly tax the wealthy and the corporations who can afford high priced lawyers and lobbyists to not only write the laws, but to insert the loopholes so they can't be found by we the people!
That's what we don't trust!
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)As if we ever did.
alp227
(32,064 posts)Werfel said the IRS would report by the end of the month on its progress in three areas: accountability for the problems, solutions to those problems, and a broader review of agency operations. These goals align with directives President Obama and Treasury Secretary Jack Lew gave Werfel when he took the job. The new acting commissioner also said the IRS needs to immediately address the backlog of tax-exemption applications that were held up under the targeting campaign. He said he has ordered the top tax-exemption officials to submit a plan for expediting that process without compromising fairness and impartiality.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Prosecute war criminal, banksters and charitable organizations that are spending to promote politics.
840high
(17,196 posts)DuckBurp
(302 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 4, 2013, 03:33 AM - Edit history (1)
Seems to be his management style since taking over at the IRS.
Hotler
(11,452 posts)I have no hope. I see no future.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)In a just society should we fear our government that much?
Ter
(4,281 posts)n/t