Booz Allen fires Edward Snowden, says they didn't pay him $200K

[Cali_Democrat]

Source: Politico

Consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton has fired Edward Snowden, the computer technician who acknowledged leaking classified documents to The Guardian and The Washington Post, the company announced.

Booz Allen on Tuesday morning also called into question one detail Snowden gave about himself when it updated a statement it released Sunday evening with a single sentence: “Snowden, who had a salary at the rate of $122,000, was terminated June 10, 2013, for violations of the firm’s code of ethics and firm policy,” the company said.

Snowden had told The Guardian that he had “a very comfortable life” that included “a salary of roughly 200,000.” He might have been also accounting for perks, bonuses or other income outside his work for Booz Allen — or he might have been exaggerating to make a point about the sacrifice he felt he was making by releasing the documents.

The Army also filled in a little more of Snowden’s background late Monday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/booz-allen-edward-snowden-nsa-leak-92568.html?hp=l2

[NoOneMan]

1. Who cares?

Leakers are only credible if they are card carrying members of the Democratic Party and they shop at Whole Foods. All else is irrelevant.

[kelliekat44]

10. Actually, we should all care...on many levels.

There are people in jail for life or many years to much less. We don't yet know the extent of the damage done to our country by his or Mannings exposures. I suspect the exposures have done much more damage to more people that the government's operations. But that is just my opinion.

[carla]

17. As opposed to the damage

done to your country by those who ignore or rewrite it's laws to gain illegal advantages? Government in the sunshine is the ideal. Stop blaming Snowden for his bravery and patriotism.

[kelliekat44]

24. Last time I looked what he did is closer to treason than patriotism. Wait until you find out where

he sells his goods. That will probably be a better kept secret than the work he was doing,.

[sigmasix]

52. brave and patriotic to threaten lives of our military?

This hero worship of a racist threatening to "out" our military and intelligence workers to china is something to be expected in teabagger circles- perhaps you meant this statement for your compatriots in freeperville?

[xtraxritical]

34. The damage done to our country by exposure to Republicans is beyond estimation.

[Eddie Haskell]

44. Total compensation would be very close to $200,000

[grantcart]

19. Well it appears that on some level (atleast his pay) he is not being truthful.

[NoOneMan]

22. The core issue is no more about him than Julian Assange's affinity for condoms

[grantcart]

23. His statements are at the core of the issues involved. His credibility is an issue.

You are right about Assange but Assange was and is a publisher, not an active operational agent.


Assange doesn't need credibility because it is the documents that speak for themselves.


Snowden's statements are the basis of his claims. If in fact he is careless with words it means that his statements will and should be viewed with skepticism. The fact that you would think that his statements are not particularly germane simply show that you have a preconceived opinion of the facts and don't really care what the real facts are.

[NoOneMan]

25. His credibility means dick

The only thing that matters are if the allegations are true and if such truths are legal and permissible.

He is a non-entity in that discussion. His "credibility" is only being questioned to ignore addressing his claims, not to verify them.

At this point, we do not need to know 1 thing further about who he is to investigate the spy programs and determine the truth independently of a 29 year old contractor.

[grantcart]

31. lol

His credibility means dick

The only thing that matters are if the allegations are true

So much for any attempt at intelligent conversation.

[NoOneMan]

33. You mean our only link to truth are the words of a 29 year old narcissist?

Thats a pile of steaming shit Im not buying.

Pandora's box is open. We don't need him to poke around inside now. These "credibility tests" are thinly veiled distractions at this point.

[xtraxritical]

35. Spot on NoOneMan!

Lot's of PC youngsters here posturing their PC. You nailed it.

[snagglepuss]

40. Why believe BoozAllen? Have they shown his pay stubs?

[NoOneMan]

45. Because it reinforces their hatred of the man picking on their imaginary best friend

Leave Obama alone!


Of course, this issue supersedes both Obama and Snowden

[MADem]

48. He also got the year wrong on his Army service. nt

[Cha]

37. Yeah, just another lie from Snowden.. I know lots of people don't care,

but I do.

[leftyohiolib]

2. let the character assaination begin

[SoapBox]

3. As it should!

...just think, he may end up living in Russia with Putin.

[Taverner]

4. They're already going after his girlfriend

Showing that one pole dancing pic over and over

[zappaman]

6. Um....

she's a ballerina who dances half-naked on a pole.
At least according to the Weekly World News...ooops...I mean the Daily Mail.

[Coyotl]

7. Who is your THEY?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/this-might-be-the-girlfriend-edward-snowden-left-behind

[totodeinhere]

12. I like the last picture with them both on the carpet and his glasses in the

lower left hand corner of the picture.

I bet they are watching her in case he tries to send for.

[Coyotl]

5. Most importantly, let the fact be known, albeit that will be called character assasination.

[Cha]

38. Snowden is caught in another lie. If he had been been truthful there wouldn't

be all these discrepancies in his story.

[snagglepuss]

41. Where is the pay stubb to show that BoozAllen is telling the truth? Why believe

a business that is bilking American taxpayers bigtime?

[Mr.Bill]

8. Maybe when he said 200K

he was including what the Chinese were paying him.

[kelliekat44]

9. Or what the Koch-cabal was paying him? nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

11. Or what US citizens who don't want a totalitarian national security state were paying him?

That's probably just as likely as the two alternatives above.

[Psephos]

20. smear artist n/t

[sigmasix]

53. this [phone] NT

[sigmasix]

54. this [phone] NT

[totodeinhere]

13. Yes, let the character assassination begin. People like

you are making stuff up about him that has no basis in any known facts. Shame on you.

[snagglepuss]

42. It's utterly disgusting that people buy into a BoozAllen assertion without

them providing proof. One thing is clear that Booz a bilking taxpayers.Before surveillene was privatized who doing comparable work as Snowden was taking home even $122,000.

[totodeinhere]

47. I agree with your comments about Booz Allen. What I objected to was the accusation

that Snowden is taking money from the Chinese when there is not shred of information to corroborate that.

[carla]

18. Nice smear.

But not nice since you have no proof...just insinuation and mud.

[Cha]

39. Touche'.. so it wasn't really a lie? lol

[totodeinhere]

14. Hawaii is a very expensive place to live. $122,000 would probably

be considered no more than a middle class income there.

[Cali_Democrat]

16. Ya, but he said he made 200k

[Submariner]

26. On overseas assignments these companies pay a premium bonus

and overtime pay, so he probably made 78K in overseas bonus and OT, while 122K is probably the stated base pay. At least that's how my employer describes it when we are sent on assignments.

[Cali_Democrat]

27. Again you don't know that for sure

That's just speculation on your part.

[jmowreader]

28. $122k probably includes overseas bonus and OT

$200k is what they pay their senior guys, which a 29-year-old would not be.

If he got Trainee Discharged from the Army in 2004, he's only had nine years to become James Bond...which isn't enough time.

[DCBob]

43. Probably includes bribes and payoffs from his Chinese partners.

[jmowreader]

46. No, that would be the $200k figure

[DallasNE]

15. Why Did Booz Allen Hire Edward Snowden

His resume was very thin. But then $122,000 is not that great of a salary for the Washington market.

Also, if Snowden had the free rein he claims to have had then Booz Allen has some issues of their own regarding internal security. Indeed, look for some more heads to roll at Booz Allen.

[totodeinhere]

21. One reason they hired him was he already had a security clearance. It is

a lot easier to hire someone who already has one. It takes months to get a clearance and they would rather not wait for that process.

[LittleGirl]

29. indeed, it takes months. eom

[Blue_Tires]

30. My question is how he got into the CIA in the first place...

[MADem]

49. Not Washington--Oahu. He was in HI. nt

[DallasNE]

50. Thanks, I Later Learned That While He Grew Up Near Langley, VA

That he actually worked out of Hawaii. Similar labor market. Going to "CIA" high apparently fast tracked his security clearance and that needs to be looked into.

[MADem]

51. I think he grew up closer to Ft. Meade (NSA territory).

That's where he got that janitor job and later got upgraded to IT. His mother works in IT, maybe he learned at her knee. He doesn't have any documented cyber-education that we know of, yet, anyway.

[Earth_First]

32. Its also possible that Snowden had a second job consulting or freelance income as well...

While this may or may not have been a breech of his contract with B.A. however it may explain/account for the difference.

I find it interesting the lengths that are being investigated to discredit Snowden.

[freshwest]

36. They fired him to hide their other dirt. Where's Issa? Look, government fraud and abuse right here!

Oh, wait! So sorry!

I forgot Issa only investigates the Obama administration, never the MIC or fossil fuel magnates killing us off.

Just keep screwing us, GOP and your Koch-funded ratfuckers. What, no kiss?

Then kiss off, you lying mofo's. Go to hell with all your 1% circus showmen.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

55. Surprising that Booz Allen would disclose salary info

The companies I've worked for would disclose starting- and ending-dates of employment. Not salary. And not the reason for end of employment. HR is a cautious bunch.

The whole "Army story" strikes me as odd. For those who enlist with the "Special Forces" option, the usual fate for those who don't complete the training is a transfer to Infantry to complete his term of service, not a discharge. Maybe he got a medical discharge, maybe not. The Army's not talking, and Snowden's credibility is suspect.

[Festivito]

56. A 122k$ earner might cost the client 200K$ (that's US).

The contracting company is responsible for benefits, payroll cash flow and expects to make a profit.