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michigandem58

(1,044 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:12 PM Jun 2013

Holder promises Snowden will face justice

Source: Financial Times


US attorney-general Eric Holder has vowed to bring Edward Snowden to justice, accusing the former intelligence contractor who leaked information on top-secret surveillance programmes of endangering the safety of Americans and their allies.

Speaking in Dublin ahead of the G8 summit, Mr Holder said the actions taken by the 29-year-old now believed to be in hiding in Hong Kong had damaged “the safety of the American people”.

“The national security of the United States has been damaged as a result of those leaks,” he told reporters on Friday. “The safety of the American people [and] the safety of people who reside in allied nations have been put at risk as a result of these leaks.”


Read more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f3ac846-d4aa-11e2-8639-00144feab7de.html#axzz2WDecMvwZ

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Holder promises Snowden will face justice (Original Post) michigandem58 Jun 2013 OP
When are the torturers facing justice? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #1
+100000000 forestpath Jun 2013 #2
That's because torture and massive institutional bank fraud Maedhros Jun 2013 #3
Oh fuck off Holder NV Whino Jun 2013 #6
That's change you can beLIEve in! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #25
Amen to that...... Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #42
When will HOLDER face justice Plucketeer Jun 2013 #23
How about the banks? Will they face justice? sakabatou Jun 2013 #4
Hell NO! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #26
When is Wall Street going to face justice, Holder? AndyA Jun 2013 #5
+1000 Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #7
I am sorry to report donnasgirl Jun 2013 #21
Too Big To Jail. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #27
Agreed donnasgirl Jun 2013 #44
when are Rove, Chain-ee and BushCo going to face justice? wordpix Jun 2013 #57
Holder failed at bringing Cheney and Bush to justice so why should we believe him now? cstanleytech Jun 2013 #8
How about bringing wall street to justice, mister justice man? n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #9
Holder wouldn't know justice if it reached up and bit him in the ass. Autumn Jun 2013 #10
Corrupt. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #28
This fucking guy has to go! He goes after pot smokers and the sick people who use the medical Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #11
POLICE STATE blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #29
How about Bush and cronies? When will they be prosecuted? on point Jun 2013 #12
Oh, so finally this incompetent bastard has decided to do something. faithnomore Jun 2013 #13
Holder lacks a sense of perspective with that safety remark. alp227 Jun 2013 #14
Oh, NOW he grows a pair! Clyde Tenson Jun 2013 #15
No, Obama represents Obama's failure to live up to his bullsh!t promises. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #30
What about Wall Street, what about the previous administration? Marrah_G Jun 2013 #16
. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #31
Well, that's all we can hope for. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #17
Seems Holder has moved Snowden up his most wanted list, right next to people with cancer smoking pot Kurska Jun 2013 #18
. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #33
Holder SamKnause Jun 2013 #19
I've seen the enemy. And he is us. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #34
So who made Obama appoint Holder? Ash_F Jun 2013 #20
Yeah, because we're a country of laws. We prosecute people for wrongdoing. JoeyT Jun 2013 #22
The essence of a POLICE STATE: blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #24
Unsurprising BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #32
Typical. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #36
I fart in eric holders general direction easychoice Jun 2013 #35
Hey Skeeter - How about Karl Rove? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #37
We need graham4Obama here to add some balance to this thread Doctor_J Jun 2013 #38
80-20, 80-20, 80-20! MNBrewer Jun 2013 #40
LOL Earth_First Jun 2013 #47
I will not take Eric Holder's word that Snowden has damaged "the safety of the American people" MNBrewer Jun 2013 #39
Seriously, we need a NEW Party. This "Democratic" Party is a sick farce of Corporate criminality blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #41
We sure do. tblue Jun 2013 #58
There's no debate that Snowden broke some serious laws.. DCBob Jun 2013 #43
what about all of the other lawbreakers who this ag has left alone Doctor_J Jun 2013 #45
I'd still feel a lot better about it if he brought some real gangsters to justice . . . . Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #50
Only in upholding the highest law of the land. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #52
Eric Holder does not know the meaning of the word "justice." malthaussen Jun 2013 #46
Why? According to some, none of these top-secret surveillance programs was secret. magellan Jun 2013 #48
classified documents are still classified Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #59
Fair enough. Guess I'll keep waiting for the same bristling defense of our rights. n/t magellan Jun 2013 #60
In this conversation it would be your rights to be honest Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #61
No harm, no foul magellan Jun 2013 #62
Looks like Snowden has already assured that Holder will face justice. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #49
Well Mr. Holder, you better get going Fast and Furious . . . rightsideout Jun 2013 #51
Just like all the CEO'S OF ALL THE BANKS? 7wo7rees Jun 2013 #53
It reads better if you do some word substitution PSPS Jun 2013 #54
Worst Attorney General ever appointed by a Dem CanonRay Jun 2013 #55
but don't investigate Chain-ee on the Valerie Plame leak or WMD false pretense-for-war claims wordpix Jun 2013 #56
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
1. When are the torturers facing justice?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:13 PM
Jun 2013

When are the bank fraudsters?

Oh that's right, the laws aren't for everyone.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
3. That's because torture and massive institutional bank fraud
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jun 2013

don't endanger our safety.

/snark.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
42. Amen to that......
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jun 2013

When he failed to prosecute those who intentionally lied us into war, cost trillions of dollars, cut short the lives of over 4,000 Americans and personally benefitted from the war, he was ineffective.

When he failed to prosecute those who dreamed up, sanctioned and salivated when we tortured individuals, he was a failure.

When he failed to prosecute the banks and other monied interests that tanked the global economy, he was a disaster.

When he set out to go after those medical marijuana dispensaries, he was a tragedy.

He should just give it up. He has been a total failure and a disgrace.

Relative to his immediate predecessors he is probably not any worse than them but I don't know why we are paying him a salary and benefits. I have yet to see a single thing he has done that is worth more than minimum wage. Most minimum wage-earners do a hell of a lot more work and more beneficial work than Holder.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
23. When will HOLDER face justice
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jun 2013

for DERELICTION OF DUTY???? This whole administration is impotent and useless!

EDIT: for typo

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
5. When is Wall Street going to face justice, Holder?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jun 2013

Did Wall Street not endanger the safety of Americans when it crashed the economy, causing Americans to lose their savings, houses, jobs? Is living on the street safe, Holder?

What a hypocrite. Pick and choose who to prosecute. Pathetic. I'm sure the country's founders are just thrilled with the double standard that exists in this country today.

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
21. I am sorry to report
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jun 2013

Wall street, the banks, insurance companies, are just to big to prosecute.

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
11. This fucking guy has to go! He goes after pot smokers and the sick people who use the medical
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:43 PM
Jun 2013

marihuana and the whistle blowers! Snowden would deserve punishment if he has been cooperating with the Chinese, but Holder would go after him even if he had not fled!

 

faithnomore

(41 posts)
13. Oh, so finally this incompetent bastard has decided to do something.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jun 2013

Freedom and Justice for all, (just don't try to expose the lies and corruption.)

alp227

(33,282 posts)
14. Holder lacks a sense of perspective with that safety remark.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:03 PM
Jun 2013

What about:
- Predatory lenders
- The Bush Crime Family
- Corporate polluters

How on earth did this stupid man earn another term under the Obama administration?

 

Clyde Tenson

(65 posts)
15. Oh, NOW he grows a pair!
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jun 2013

What a smarmy stooge. Holder makes Bush's trained chihuahua look good. This man single handedly represents the Obama's administration's failings to live up to it's progressive campaign promises.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
16. What about Wall Street, what about the previous administration?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jun 2013

Any plans on going after them Mr. Holder?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
18. Seems Holder has moved Snowden up his most wanted list, right next to people with cancer smoking pot
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jun 2013

Boy do I feel safer.

SamKnause

(14,896 posts)
19. Holder
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jun 2013

FUCK YOU Holder !!!!!

You want to talk about the endangering the safety of Americans ?

Why is the Bush administration not being held accountable for causing the deaths of U.S. troops, Iraqi troops, and Iraqi civilians ?

Why is Wall Street bigger, more powerful and still unregulated ?

Why are Gitmo detainees being force fed ?

Why has President Obama decided that executions carried out by drones is acceptable ? Executions without evidence, identification, or even association ? Executions justified by age, gender and proximity of closeness. How fucking sick is that ?

Why has President Obama interfered with every country that wants to hold the Bush administration accountable ?

Why are banks allowed to launder drug money ?

Why are you Mr. Holder going after medical marijuana dispensaries and patients.

Why hasn't anything been done about police brutality in this country ?

Why are our tax dollars being squandered on the Fake and Failed War on Drugs ?

FUCK YOU HOLDER ????

You are part of the problem, not part of the solution !!!!



JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
22. Yeah, because we're a country of laws. We prosecute people for wrongdoing.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jun 2013

I mean if we'd ever had a president guilty of war crimes we'd prosecute him for sure.


Well, if someone admitted to it on national television, we'd certainly never pass that up.


Return to the rule of law looks suspiciously like strike at anyone that offends us as long as we're sure they can't hit back.

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
35. I fart in eric holders general direction
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jun 2013

He is as big a pig as Gonzales was.I wonder if he has forgotten his own name yet.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
37. Hey Skeeter - How about Karl Rove?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jun 2013

He's still a traitor from where I sit. Is there a statute of limitations on treason?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
38. We need graham4Obama here to add some balance to this thread
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:18 PM
Jun 2013

you lefties are being to rough on Holder.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
39. I will not take Eric Holder's word that Snowden has damaged "the safety of the American people"
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:19 PM
Jun 2013

I'm sure the evidence is conveniently classified.

Citizens of this country have a RIGHT to know these secrets they're so fond of hoarding.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
41. Seriously, we need a NEW Party. This "Democratic" Party is a sick farce of Corporate criminality
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jun 2013

and classic neofascism.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
43. There's no debate that Snowden broke some serious laws..
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jun 2013

seems any AG, even a DU approved one, would try to bring him to justice.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
45. what about all of the other lawbreakers who this ag has left alone
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jun 2013

for four years? Why are you suddenly Mr law and order?

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
50. I'd still feel a lot better about it if he brought some real gangsters to justice . . . .
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 02:07 AM
Jun 2013

. . . like Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd.

Not to mention the Frat Boy and the Big Dick.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
52. Only in upholding the highest law of the land.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 02:53 AM
Jun 2013

Those are the "laws" that the law requires us to break.

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
46. Eric Holder does not know the meaning of the word "justice."
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:23 PM
Jun 2013

Worst attorney general ever? Well, maybe since John Mitchell...

-- Mal

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
59. classified documents are still classified
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jun 2013

and i believe if some of the info we have been told are in the files he has is accurate(and is revealed) that would be even worse

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
61. In this conversation it would be your rights to be honest
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 02:37 PM
Jun 2013

I'm more of an outsider in this as i am Norwegian and live there

Just felt like answering the question since it was asked(and while it does not fit these two last posts, i have a habit of liking to play the devil's advocate if you know the term(tends to drive some of my friends nuts))

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
53. Just like all the CEO'S OF ALL THE BANKS?
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 03:24 AM
Jun 2013

You know, Eric, all the ones that tanked our economy? WHAT ABOUT THAT SECURITY??

PSPS

(15,321 posts)
54. It reads better if you do some word substitution
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:43 AM
Jun 2013

Whenever you see these pronouncements, just make the following substitution in your head while reading and it will make more sense:

When you read "people" substitute "the top 1%"
When you read "the American people" substitute "the top 1%"
When you read "Americans" substitute "the top 1%"
When you read "the United States" substitute "the top 1%"

CanonRay

(16,171 posts)
55. Worst Attorney General ever appointed by a Dem
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jun 2013

I'll make allowances that John Mitchell, Asford, and Gonzales may have been worse, although make a case. Bobby Kennedy must be doing laps in his grave.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
56. but don't investigate Chain-ee on the Valerie Plame leak or WMD false pretense-for-war claims
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jun 2013

or anything else of importance.

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