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(3,731 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:11 AM Jun 2013

Update: Former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez charged with murder

Last edited Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: NBC News

By Elizabeth Chuck, Staff Writer, NBC News

Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez was formally charged Wednesday afternoon with murder, more than a week after a body was found near his Massachusetts home.

Hernandez was also charged with several counts of unlawful possession of firearms.

Hernandez, 23, was placed in handcuffs and put in a police cruiser just before 9 a.m. on Wednesday by Massachusetts State Police and North Attleborough police. Authorities have searched his home, on the Rhode Island line not far from the Patriots' stadium, several times over the past week.

Hernandez was being arraigned at Attleboro District Court.



Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/26/19152123-former-patriots-tight-end-aaron-hernandez-charged-with-murder?lite



He has now been charged with murder and 5 firearms charges.

I would say that this young man has a tough road ahead of him
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Update: Former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez charged with murder (Original Post) premium Jun 2013 OP
Bad week for . . . aggiesal Jun 2013 #1
First rule of being a fan: VWolf Jun 2013 #3
Being a Blackhawks fan . . . aggiesal Jun 2013 #21
Yeah, there are always a few bad apples VWolf Jun 2013 #22
I'm sad about the Bruins, but not about Hernandez Marrah_G Jun 2013 #10
I'm not really sure what to think about Hernandez yet VWolf Jun 2013 #23
He is currently also being sued by a mad who says he shot him in the face in ct Marrah_G Jun 2013 #25
Tying the B's postseason to the Marathon Murderers was really dumb Doctor_J Jun 2013 #32
WOW! Who said anything about the Marathon Bombings? n/t aggiesal Jun 2013 #41
You haven't been paying attention? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #42
What? No car chase on I-95? alp227 Jun 2013 #2
Well, he's a Patriot, VWolf Jun 2013 #4
Ex-Patriot now, they just cut him from the team. edbermac Jun 2013 #16
I-95 is too congested to have car chases on it. Jennicut Jun 2013 #27
At ALL costs! Agschmid Jun 2013 #43
I am very, very confused by this case or whatever it is. I think the police were, too. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #5
I'm thinking that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well .... monmouth3 Jun 2013 #6
And I can't say I disagree with that way of looking at things. Cali posted an OP about this a... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #8
Any idea as to motive? Sienna86 Jun 2013 #7
My first guess after reading the article is that it was alcohol-related gunplay. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #9
While not illegal to destroy his own property, premium Jun 2013 #14
I'm not entirely sure how the law works in a situation like this, but AFAIK, as long as... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #15
Good point. premium Jun 2013 #17
There may also be some element of mental health to this. The smashing of the... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #19
Good points all.t premium Jun 2013 #20
Maybe Marrah_G Jun 2013 #26
The victim talked the "wrong guy" in a club in Boston - - evidently that was enough Baclava Jun 2013 #45
When keepin' it real goes wrong...n/t Bully Taw Jun 2013 #11
Hope shooting that guy was worth his future. Arkana Jun 2013 #12
He hasn't been charged as a suspect in the case yet, premium Jun 2013 #13
He has now been charged with murder. n/t RebelOne Jun 2013 #34
You know you're having a bad day when geek tragedy Jun 2013 #18
--> savalez Jun 2013 #29
What a shame MizzM Jun 2013 #24
He grew up the next town over from where I live, in Bristol, CT. Jennicut Jun 2013 #28
Was he first string (if they still call it that) or was he a backup player? tofuandbeer Jun 2013 #30
I believe he was their starting tight end. premium Jun 2013 #31
first string, star player cali Jun 2013 #36
Wow! ...thanks. tofuandbeer Jun 2013 #38
"Patriots inked a $40 million dollar deal with him just last year with a $12.5 million signing bonus Baclava Jun 2013 #48
yeah - they found a few clues....DOOMED! Baclava Jun 2013 #33
Judging by this, premium Jun 2013 #35
details released by the prosecutors: Baclava Jun 2013 #37
I'm left shaking my head Marrah_G Jun 2013 #39
I don't understand this young man, premium Jun 2013 #40
these alpha guys think they're bulletproof Baclava Jun 2013 #44
or very stupid RILib Jun 2013 #46
this guy was a "star", but only 23 y/o...of course he was stupid Baclava Jun 2013 #47

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
3. First rule of being a fan:
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jun 2013

Live by the sword: Amazing comeback in game 7 vs Toronto
Die by the sword: Amazing collapse in game 6 vs Chicago

As a Bruins fan, I can only say that it was a relatively clean, hard-fought series between two class organizations.
Hats off to Chicago.

aggiesal

(10,801 posts)
21. Being a Blackhawks fan . . .
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jun 2013

I appreciate your sentiment.

Most Boston Bruins fans were really nice, cheered for their team, and
were pretty civil around me. Friends that I work with, shared friendly
banter during the series. And we all agreed that this was going to be a
long grinding series, which it turned out to be.

But I have to relay a story, that happened to me at a local Costco before
the series started.
I was walking around Costco with my 15 year old daughter while wearing
my Blackhawks hat, when another customer wearing a Bruins t-shirt
approached me. I knew he was going to talk hockey, but the guy got
in my face.
I couldn't believe it. I kept saying things like "It's going to be a good
series", "It's going to be fun to watch", . . .
But this guy kept yelling at me saying "We shut down Crosby and Malkin,
and we're going to shut down Toews and Kane"
"We have a solid defense and our goalie is the best".
"Bruins are going to win in a sweep" . . .
He wouldn't stop until his wife came by and asked him
"You're going to do that here?"
I just wished him good luck and walked away.
My daughter turned to me said "What a jerk"

I like Boston fans. Their passionate about their teams like we are in
Chicago. And the few friends that I have from the Boston area are
always considerate.

But, I really want to meet this guy again.
Not say anything, just a smile.

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
22. Yeah, there are always a few bad apples
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:25 PM
Jun 2013

I've found that those types are typically the ones whose lives are so meaningless they resort to overaggressive support for their team. It gives them purpose, I suppose.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
10. I'm sad about the Bruins, but not about Hernandez
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:20 AM
Jun 2013

And I am a big Pats fan. No room for that crap in Foxboro!

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
23. I'm not really sure what to think about Hernandez yet
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jun 2013

Gonna let the legal system run its course first.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
25. He is currently also being sued by a mad who says he shot him in the face in ct
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jun 2013

He originally told the cops he didn't know who shot him outside a nightclub.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I liked him as a player, but had heard not so great things about him off the field.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. Tying the B's postseason to the Marathon Murderers was really dumb
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

Seriously, does the fact that they lost in the finals make the bombings worse? Or if they'd won, would that make the bombings not as bad? I don't get these ad hoc causes.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
42. You haven't been paying attention?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jun 2013

everyone in Boston basically, including the players.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
27. I-95 is too congested to have car chases on it.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jun 2013

As a CT resident, you are taught at an early age to avoid 95 at all costs.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
5. I am very, very confused by this case or whatever it is. I think the police were, too.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jun 2013

Something the fuck is going on, or at least any reasonable investigator would make that inferrence based on Hernandez's actions.

But did Hernandez commit a crime or the crime?

I think the police were holding off until they could at least get something solid in the way of a criminal complaint and I'm not sure that that was an easy thing. People do weird stuff. People also have shady pasts. But sometimes something that looks suspicious is superficial.

Let's say for the sake of argument, that Hernandez had no part in the crime. We're just talking here, I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone. Let's say, though, he was innocent. But he had something big, really big, to hide. Something he did not want to come out if police investigated him. From what I've read so far, his extremely suspicious behavior could have been an attempt to cover that up.

Now, do I believe that? I have no idea, nor am I asking anyone to.

PB

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
6. I'm thinking that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well ....
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:01 AM
Jun 2013

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
8. And I can't say I disagree with that way of looking at things. Cali posted an OP about this a...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:06 AM
Jun 2013

...week or so ago, here, and I have my own pet theory about what Hernandez's role might have been, based on his past.

But I have to realize that sometimes, the reality of a situation can be a lot more complex and confusing than it can appear.

PB

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
9. My first guess after reading the article is that it was alcohol-related gunplay.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:11 AM
Jun 2013

There's this back and forth between HooptieWagon. HW's "roid rage" is also not a bad guess. Tough to say. Not a lot out there except Hernandez's actions after the crime had been committed, like allegedly destroying his home security system and cellphone.

PB

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
14. While not illegal to destroy his own property,
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jun 2013

it does raise suspicions about why he did it pending a search warrant.

My question is, if he hasn't been charged as a suspect in the crime, then why was he removed from his house in cuffs?

The body of Odin Lloyd, 27, was found June 17 about one mile away from the tight end's North Attleborough home. The death was ruled a homicide; Hernandez has not been named as a suspect in the case.


Curiouser and curiouser.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
15. I'm not entirely sure how the law works in a situation like this, but AFAIK, as long as...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jun 2013

...someone at the police, and probably DA/whomever, is convinced this dude has something to do with the crime, they can get him into custody. It may be that they have reason to believe that he, himself, didn't commit the crime but that he may know who did or some other aspect of the crime for which he could be culpable.

Just a guess.

PB

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
17. Good point.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jun 2013

They may have taken him in as a material witness, which they are allowed to do.
It would have had to been the DA that ordered him to be taken into custody as a material witness, if that's why he was removed from his home in cuffs.
We should know something in the next couple of days.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
19. There may also be some element of mental health to this. The smashing of the...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jun 2013

...home security system and cellphone, given the nature of data recovery, would lead me to believe that someone who might do something like that, for whatever reason, may not be in a clear state of mind.

PB

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
20. Good points all.t
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:04 PM
Jun 2013

Also, in my last post, I meant to say that the order to arrest him on a material witness warrant would have to have come from the DA's office because a judge would have to sign the warrant.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
26. Maybe
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jun 2013

"As if the murder investigation wasn't enough trouble, it was also reported Hernandez is being sued by a Connecticut man who says the player shot him in the face after the two left a Miami strip club in February. The complainant is seeking unspecified damages after suffering devastating injuries from what he claims was caused by being shot by Hernandez. However, NFL.com's Ian Rapoport tweeted that upon filing an official police report at the time of the shooting, the victim told authorities he did not know who had shot him."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/england-patriots-aaron-hernandez-legal-issues-part-troubling-110400253.html

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
45. The victim talked the "wrong guy" in a club in Boston - - evidently that was enough
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jun 2013

bazillions in the bank, now lost, but you got that street cred going for ya

good luck with that sucker

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
12. Hope shooting that guy was worth his future.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jun 2013

What a fucking stupid thing to do. He threw away everything.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
13. He hasn't been charged as a suspect in the case yet,
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jun 2013
The body of Odin Lloyd, 27, was found June 17 about one mile away from the tight end's North Attleborough home. The death was ruled a homicide; Hernandez has not been named as a suspect in the case.


So, the question is, why would they take him out of his house in cuffs if he hasn't been charged yet?

MizzM

(77 posts)
24. What a shame
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jun 2013

As a Patriots fan for many years, I don't understand how someone as young and talented as Mr. Hernandez - and with the world by the tail - can get himself into this mess. Even if he is found innocent, he's done with the Patriots. He's not the only star athlete to self-destruct, of course. BTW, Aaron Hernandez is Rachel Maddow's favorite Patriot, or should I say "was" her favorite player. She is a resident of MA.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
28. He grew up the next town over from where I live, in Bristol, CT.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jun 2013

He was a star player for Bristol High School. He grew up watching Tom Brady play. This was his dream and he blew it. Not sure if it's murder but utter stupidity, yes. May have shot someone at a club in CT. It's crazy.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
30. Was he first string (if they still call it that) or was he a backup player?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jun 2013

Bizarre behavior: maybe he was taking steroids.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
31. I believe he was their starting tight end.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

I don't know about steroids, the NFL has a pretty strict testing policy in place now, but, it is a possibility.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
36. first string, star player
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jun 2013

<snip>

Although Hernandez's stats were eclipsed by Gronkowski's, Hernandez still ranked in the top 5 in receptions, yards, and touchdowns among tight ends; according to NBC Sports, Hernandez and Gronkowski are the first pair of tight ends in NFL history to catch 5 touchdown passes in consecutive seasons with the same team. In 2011 they also set NFL records for yardage, receptions, and touchdowns by tight ends on one team, combining for 169 receptions, 2,237 yards, and 24 touchdowns. The previous records for receptions and yards by tight ends on a single team was set in 1984 by the San Diego Chargers, who had four tight ends combine for 163 receptions and 1,927 yards;[19] the 24 touchdowns eclipsed the record of 18 touchdowns caught by Gronkowski, Hernandez, and Alge Crumpler in 2010.

<snip>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Hernandez

Patriots inked a $40 million dollar deal with him just last year with a $12.5 million signing bonus
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
48. "Patriots inked a $40 million dollar deal with him just last year with a $12.5 million signing bonus
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:41 AM
Jun 2013

and they'll pay him $2.5M a year for the next two years, regardless of the $7-8M he already pocketed in his latest signing bouns


I bet that all pays for a lotta weed in the joint



 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
33. yeah - they found a few clues....DOOMED!
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jun 2013

The DA reported having video surveillance of AH vehicle in Dorchester, Attleboro and his home with time frame and text messages from victim stating he was with "NFL".


3:23 - Surveillance of Hernandez leaving car with Lloyd.

Between 3:23-3:27 Workers in surrounding buildings report hearing gunshots.

3:27 - Hernandez returns to car alone.

2 minutes later surveillance shows Hernandez coming into his house with a gun in his hand.

Rental car Hernandez was driving returned to dealer. Dealer starts cleaning car and finds shell casing that matches those found next to dead body.



Not even Ray Lewis could get out of this one

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
37. details released by the prosecutors:
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22536196/prosecution-details-what-allegedly-happened-night-odin-lloyd-died


So Hernandez basically threw his entire life and career and multimillion dollar fortune away because the victim talked to the 'wrong' people at a club in Boston.


Hernandez: "Can't trust anyone...."
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
40. I don't understand this young man,
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jun 2013

he had it all, a career he loved, financial security, a beautiful home, why would he throw it all away?
Now, if he's convicted, he'll more than likely spend the rest of his life in prison. (shakes head)

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
44. these alpha guys think they're bulletproof
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jun 2013

bazillions in the bank, now lost, but you got that street cred going for ya

good luck with that sucker

 

RILib

(862 posts)
46. or very stupid
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jun 2013

hard to tell which. "Star" athletes seem to think the law is meaningless. They're often right - animal abuse, rape, murder with get out of jail free cards.

We may have been naive to believe this, but in my day, professional athletes were supposed to set good examples.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
47. this guy was a "star", but only 23 y/o...of course he was stupid
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jun 2013

power and money - above the law - that shit only works in the movies

some people are just gonna think that way, I can't blame the Pats for picking a bad seed

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