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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:43 PM Jun 2013

Sarah Palin Open to Creating New 'Freedom Party' if GOP Continues to 'Neglect Conservatives'

Source: The NY Daily News



The 2008 Republican nominee for vice president said that many conservatives with "that libertarian streak" feel ignored by the GOP. If this presumed neglect continues, Palin said, creating a new home for conservatives might not be such a bad idea.

Palin expects more and more people who want government off their backs to ask, "You know, what's wrong with being independent?"

"I think there will be a lot of us who start saying, 'GOP, if you abandon us, we have nowhere else to go except to become more independent and not enlisted in a one or the other private majority parties that rule in our nation, either a Democrat or a Republican."

"I love the name of that party — the 'Freedom Party,'" Palin replied. "And if the GOP continues to back away from the planks in our platform, from the principles that built this party of Lincoln and Reagan, then yeah."




Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-bolt-gop-create-freedom-party-article-1.1386434

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Sarah Palin Open to Creating New 'Freedom Party' if GOP Continues to 'Neglect Conservatives' (Original Post) big_dog Jun 2013 OP
Lol, too good to be true... Sand Wind Jun 2013 #1
go for it! bluemarkers Jul 2013 #106
+ struggle4progress Jul 2013 #125
Do it do it do it do it Iliyah Jun 2013 #2
PLEASE..... Proceed, guvnah! thecrow Jul 2013 #132
Shorter Palin: BootinUp Jun 2013 #3
Exactly gvstn Jun 2013 #66
Yes, do it! nradisic Jun 2013 #4
Right! mpcamb Jun 2013 #48
She's a wee bit full of herself. marmar Jun 2013 #5
in this case her cup is only half full. LOL nt Javaman Jul 2013 #93
in other words, full of shit yurbud Jul 2013 #146
They have the Alaskan Independence Party. Downwinder Jun 2013 #6
"We'll stand for freedom, liberty and, um, freedom." Scuba Jun 2013 #7
"As long as everybody believes like me." longship Jun 2013 #9
God, guns, gays and gynocology. The Republican 4G Network. Scuba Jun 2013 #11
LOL livetohike Jun 2013 #15
I stand corrected, M. Scuba. ;-) nt longship Jun 2013 #16
My sister has this on a bumper sticker. Scuba Jun 2013 #17
DUzy! BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #23
I'm stealing that one! Loki Jun 2013 #26
Will there be freedom fries and stuff?..n/r monmouth3 Jun 2013 #14
Freedom Fries, Holy Hotdogs, Bigot Boots and Liberty Lingerie. Scuba Jun 2013 #19
Oh, I am so there... monmouth3 Jun 2013 #20
DUzy! meow2u3 Jun 2013 #47
Don't forget horny corndogs. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #112
On the 1/2 off table. bearssoapbox Jul 2013 #133
freedom fries should be their logo dougg Jul 2013 #117
Or a pit bull with lipstick...and distemper Norbert Jul 2013 #122
I think your spelling is wrong Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #111
How Funny.... Grassy Knoll Jun 2013 #8
evolves around her... interesting freudian typo Tunkamerica Jun 2013 #68
And she's left in the dust as a result. 47of74 Jul 2013 #82
well, isn't that special. k&r&rofl uppityperson Jun 2013 #10
Somehow, underscoring you're a party of Lincoln's "principles" with an emphatic, "then yeah"… Journeyman Jun 2013 #12
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wilsonbooks Jun 2013 #13
Palin should call it the 'Dumbass Party'... Playinghardball Jun 2013 #18
The FreeDumb Pawty (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #21
"Freedom Party" ? Freedom for who? YOHABLO Jun 2013 #22
freedom from reality Snake Plissken Jun 2013 #61
Freedom for America, that's who jmowreader Jun 2013 #65
Freedom for who? AlbertCat Jul 2013 #72
yes but one day you MIGHT be a big oil corporatist, and NEED to be able to Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #113
Then what? AlbertCat Jul 2013 #124
I'm in complete agreement Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #127
Thank you for that grammatical correction :) NC legislature scares me. YOHABLO Jul 2013 #138
Freedom for Sister Sarah. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #73
Freedom from high prices. nt Javaman Jul 2013 #94
White guys who wanna see her NAKED!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #141
Harry Turtledove wrote a series of alternative history books that had a Freedom party. Gore1FL Jun 2013 #24
My first thought when I heard this LearningCurve Jun 2013 #45
Great Series. nt Javaman Jul 2013 #95
Which reminds me: in that series, the liberal Republicans merged with the Socialist Party. JHB Jul 2013 #143
"Please proceed, half-governor" (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #25
Hahahaha. Great one! TheCowsCameHome Jun 2013 #39
... Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #77
ah, Sarah! still trying to be relevant... secondwind Jun 2013 #27
Sarah Palin's Freedumb Party!! Jessy169 Jun 2013 #28
Excellent. cheapdate Jun 2013 #42
Sarah Palin's Freedumb Party and Ignorance Emporium. And Big Bigot Hair Salon. For Jesus. Squinch Jun 2013 #54
Squinch, for the win!! Myrina Jul 2013 #98
GOP Sludge bucolic_frolic Jul 2013 #88
Yes, that would be a dream come true!! DCBob Jun 2013 #29
LOL. Go for it. (nt) pinto Jun 2013 #30
Curse McCain to the bowels of hell for dumping that pus bag on our country. Rozlee Jun 2013 #31
I wasn't super-psyched about Sen. Obama, bobclark86 Jun 2013 #58
Teddy Roosevelt tried this when he created the Bullmoose Party. no_hypocrisy Jun 2013 #32
Why Not Just Join The Existing Libertarian Party DallasNE Jun 2013 #33
The Constitution Party would fit her muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #46
Yikes, There Already Is A God's Law Party DallasNE Jun 2013 #67
Sounds like the Dominionist Party Martin Eden Jul 2013 #144
The Libertarian Party secondvariety Jun 2013 #50
Isn't it just hilarious Mr.Bill Jun 2013 #34
Yes it is. cheapdate Jun 2013 #43
Here's a nice slogan that will go far: Turbineguy Jun 2013 #35
MY CHECKBOOK IS AT YOUR SERVICE, MADAME. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #36
So the Tea Party isn't bat shit crazy enough for her? Rebellious Republican Jun 2013 #37
Sounds like a real moneymaker. bluedigger Jun 2013 #38
This sounds like a fine idea. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2013 #40
some of the comments supporting her after the article are quite entertaining. niyad Jun 2013 #41
Oh please, oh please! 47of74 Jun 2013 #44
Where can I donate ? jaysunb Jun 2013 #49
Oh, please do! Lil Missy Jun 2013 #51
It won't be a Freedom Party. It will be a religious party. She sees herself as Queen Esther. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #52
Please god do it. iandhr Jun 2013 #53
Pretty ironic name. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #55
why do the same people who scream "SMALLER GOVERNMENT " Heather MC Jun 2013 #56
Neglect? The whole party is as far right as you can go. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #57
The GOP is to the left of Heinrich Himmler 47of74 Jul 2013 #81
Please Proceed Govornor. bravenak Jun 2013 #59
Pleaze Jebus, make it so! BadGimp Jun 2013 #60
What a stupid fuck she is... SoapBox Jun 2013 #62
Creating a new home? tavernier Jun 2013 #63
Orly Taitz could make a great campaign manager. Gregorian Jun 2013 #64
I will encourage her to do this because ... Kennah Jul 2013 #69
I miss Keith 47of74 Jul 2013 #83
Could this be proof there really is a god? n/t Turborama Jul 2013 #70
I hope she does and soon. marble falls Jul 2013 #71
UMMM! Is this new Party for Cavemen copperearth Jul 2013 #74
How delightful that would be. David__77 Jul 2013 #75
This woman has done more for the Democratic party. Notafraidtoo Jul 2013 #76
Can't help but wonder Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #78
DO IT!!! Deep13 Jul 2013 #79
Go rogue, Sarah, go rogue! What's taken you so long? Hekate Jul 2013 #80
oldie, but goodie..... trusty elf Jul 2013 #84
wow angrychair Jul 2013 #140
The Freedom Party? Scootaloo Jul 2013 #85
Pretty sure their idea of a "Freedom" Party would include the restoration of slavery. tclambert Jul 2013 #86
All Mouth and No Neurons bucolic_frolic Jul 2013 #87
The Freedom from Reality Checks party? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #89
Because the Alaskan Independence Party name was already taken. Grins Jul 2013 #90
Caribou or moose mascot? Evasporque Jul 2013 #91
The headline should read... Javaman Jul 2013 #92
Christ on a cracker. SHUT UP, CRUELLA! catbyte Jul 2013 #96
What about the Baggers? Is the GOP going to split in 3? Myrina Jul 2013 #97
She should lead the FreeDumb Party. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #99
Please, please do it. usaf-vet Jul 2013 #100
May they Naderize the republican party in 2016 with their 20. graham4anything Jul 2013 #101
do it please rtracey Jul 2013 #102
Sarah's favorite time is QUITTIN' TIME! Blue Owl Jul 2013 #103
Do it! Go, Sarah! oldandhappy Jul 2013 #104
This could be a great remedy to gerrymandering. Kablooie Jul 2013 #105
The GOP didn't get where it is 'cause it's neglecting conservatives Rob H. Jul 2013 #107
Too good to be true! CRK7376 Jul 2013 #108
Oh, pleeeeeese do! liberal N proud Jul 2013 #109
Bigmouth Palin couldn't be independent of Canadian healthcare system (read government). Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #110
I encourage this! JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #114
First of all, Sarah Palin is not a conservative Jack Rabbit Jul 2013 #115
"many conservatives with "that libertarian streak" feel ignored by the GOP" ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #116
Fun Fact of the Day: bobclark86 Jul 2013 #118
Or 1992. Perot gave Clinton the victory 7962 Jul 2013 #137
I posted this in another thread.... Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #119
She is playing victim to the victim crowd? underpants Jul 2013 #120
Please start your own party Sarah LostOne4Ever Jul 2013 #121
Pretty please with a cherry on top? alfredo Jul 2013 #123
Do it do it, please do it still_one Jul 2013 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #128
Go for it Sarah! mysuzuki2 Jul 2013 #129
Please, Please with sugar on top blkbear Jul 2013 #130
GRIFTING blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #131
I guess they will only eat Zoeisright Jul 2013 #134
I love the name of that party, too. sofa king Jul 2013 #135
"...this party of Lincoln and Reagan" LiberalLovinLug Jul 2013 #136
Reagan was a puppet .... Lincoln would not be a "Republican" today .. and we all know it. YOHABLO Jul 2013 #139
Bill Maher just had an orgasm. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #142
Why not just join the Constitution Party? Ter Jul 2013 #145
Look at Me! Look at Me! Look at Me! Wolf Frankula Jul 2013 #147

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
106. go for it!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:12 AM
Jul 2013

The "GOP" of the history books is long gone. Fracturing the tea billies even further is a smooooth move.... lol

Gawd what arrogance.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Do it do it do it do it
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:45 PM
Jun 2013

PLEASE!

And she is far from Lincoln and Reagan in ideology. Whats with this wackos?

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
66. Exactly
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jun 2013

Sounds like contributions to SarahPAC are drying up.

She'd be happy to start a new party and control the finances. I'm sure the founder of a party gets a salary commensurate to the best paid CEO without having to actually do anything like run for office.

Maybe she'll become the GOP's Ralph Nader for siphoning off a portion of the base and we can finally be done with her. We can hope.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
19. Freedom Fries, Holy Hotdogs, Bigot Boots and Liberty Lingerie.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jun 2013

She'll have franchises inside the Dollar Store.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
8. How Funny....
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jun 2013

I just saw "you betcha" last night, and she's very different
than what the teabaggers think she it, very nasty person, who thinks
the world evolves around her, and fucks anybody in her way.

Journeyman

(15,001 posts)
12. Somehow, underscoring you're a party of Lincoln's "principles" with an emphatic, "then yeah"…
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jun 2013

seems to kick dirt on the memory of the greatest writer this nation ever had as President.

jmowreader

(50,451 posts)
65. Freedom for America, that's who
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

Because with a Freedom Party candidate, a Tea Party candidate and a Republican Party candidate splitting the votes of right-leaning Americans, we should have 435 Democrats in the House of Representatives and 100 Democrats in the Senate by January 2019.

Fortunately, Palin is too egocentric to admit that's what will happen.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
72. Freedom for who?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:48 AM
Jul 2013

for whom.....

But that is a good question.
Who here is being oppressed by the government?
Who here cannot do what they want to do?

As a gay man, I can't get married if I wanted to in this state (NC)... but I don't want to, and exactly which party is interfering if I did? Huh?

I suppose if I had a chemical plant or was a big oil company and that pesky government was stopping me from dumping my shit in the town well......


All these teabagger/ libertarian types need to go on an extended vacation to Somalia or North Korea or something and then come tell us how the government gets in the way of ...whatever it is they want to, but can't, do.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
113. yes but one day you MIGHT be a big oil corporatist, and NEED to be able to
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:16 PM
Jul 2013

dump your shit in the town well. Then what?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
124. Then what?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jul 2013

If my business cannot make money WITHIN THE RULES.... but must change them specifically to make it profitable.... then I'm a lousy businessman or the business shouldn't exist.

THAT is the "free market".... not the businesses that can get laws and rules changed to make it easier for them.



It's like when they called Karl Rove a "political genius!". Cheating is genius? Now if he had accomplished the same thing without lying and cheating, that might be genius....

How is changing the rules that protect everyone to your advantage a "free" market?

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
127. I'm in complete agreement
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:02 PM
Jul 2013

and in favor of integrity.

I do think cheat & deceit is going down.
It may take a while yet but it's happening.
On account of the internet.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
73. Freedom for Sister Sarah.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 02:01 AM
Jul 2013

She can take all the Tea Party members with her and form her own party.
The ones who "didn't give in", ya know, the ones who "didn't cave" to Obama and "didn't compromise" and let him start Obamacare. (yuck, poor sick people).
Or allow Amerikuns to have "gay marriages" (yuck, against gawd's laws).
Or allow aliens to come to Amerika and become citizens (yuck, no more aliens).
Or allow Obama to take our guns!! (Yippee, reload and shoot'em up).

She wants to put gawd first, then the Constitution, then have her head carved on Mount Rushmore.

That's not too much to ask, is it?

Gore1FL

(21,030 posts)
24. Harry Turtledove wrote a series of alternative history books that had a Freedom party.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jun 2013

It wasn't pretty.

JHB

(37,131 posts)
143. Which reminds me: in that series, the liberal Republicans merged with the Socialist Party.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:04 AM
Jul 2013

Just goes to show: those who forget history are condemned to make the rest of us bang our heads against walls in sheer exasperation.

Jessy169

(602 posts)
28. Sarah Palin's Freedumb Party!!
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jun 2013

Think of the Freedumb Party as a filter attached to the G.O.P. Through the tiny little holes of that filter, only the stupidist and most racist morons of them all can pass. Sarah Palin will lead the purist and most undefiled group of imbecille's that America has to offer. They will be an "elite" group of the ugliest, the dumbest, the worst in every way.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
31. Curse McCain to the bowels of hell for dumping that pus bag on our country.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jun 2013

I didn't think conservatives could devolve any further, but Sarah Palin turned out to be a one-woman devolution machine. I don't know what kind of radiation she puts out, but any conservative within her sphere immediately starts talking even worse gibberish than before.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
58. I wasn't super-psyched about Sen. Obama,
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jun 2013

and having remembered just how much most Republicans hated Sen. McCain for all the pork cutting and McCain-Feingold, I almost considered voting for the gentleman from Arizona (still leaning for Sen. Obama, but I did slightly waiver).

Then, getting breakfast at a cafe in a car dealership on a Saturday morning, I looked up at the TV and saw some librarian-looking woman getting off a plane, with "McCain picks woman running mate" scrolling along. Thinking how he only picked a woman to look "diverse" against a black man, I immediately wrote of Sen. McCain.

Then I learned about Sarah, and that sealed me forever against the G.O.P. How a major party could put that nitwit up to be a coronary away from a particular Gunlocke chair in Washington is beyond me.

no_hypocrisy

(45,774 posts)
32. Teddy Roosevelt tried this when he created the Bullmoose Party.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jun 2013

It didn't last an election cycle.

To his credit, TR created it because the Republican Party wasn't progressive enough.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_%28United_States,_1912%29

DallasNE

(7,392 posts)
33. Why Not Just Join The Existing Libertarian Party
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jun 2013

More likely it is because Palin just doesn't have that much in common with a true Libertarian.

What Palin is really describing would require this party to not be the Freedom Party, but the God's Law Party. That is not exactly Libertarian nor freedom.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,154 posts)
46. The Constitution Party would fit her
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jun 2013
The party currently puts a large focus on immigration, calling for stricter penalties towards illegal immigrants and a moratorium on legal immigration until all federal subsidies to immigrants are discontinued.[4] The party absorbed the American Independent Party, originally founded for George Wallace's 1968 presidential campaign. The American Independent Party of California has been affiliated with the Constitution Party since its founding; however since 2008, current party leadership is disputed and the issue is in court to resolve this conflict.[citation needed] The Constitution Party receives substantial support from Christian Right organizations, and achieved major party status in Colorado after coming in second place in the 2010 Colorado gubernatorial election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_%28United_States%29


Their party platform preamble starts:

The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States.

This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutional boundaries.

The Constitution of these United States provides that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." The Constitution Party supports the original intent of this language. Therefore, the Constitution Party calls on all those who love liberty and value their inherent rights to join with us in the pursuit of these goals and in the restoration of these founding principles.

The U.S. Constitution established a Republic rooted in Biblical law, administered by representatives who are Constitutionally elected by the citizens. In such a Republic all Life, Liberty and Property are protected because law rules.


So they wants lots of Bible, everywhere.

DallasNE

(7,392 posts)
67. Yikes, There Already Is A God's Law Party
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jun 2013

Called the Constitution Party, with roots back to George Wallace. That does sound about right for Sarah Palin. And their knowledge of history is just as skimpy as is Sarah Palin's. Plus, they talk as though there is no conflict whatsoever between Constitutional boundaries and Biblical boundaries, not withstanding the 1st Amendment.

The Constitution did not establish a Republic rooting in Biblical Law. It did establish a Republic but secular in nature. Many of our Founding Fathers were Deists, while Christian, who believed God created the world then stood back and watched so no wonder they created a secular nation.

http://www.alternet.org/story/153727/5_founding_fathers_whose_skepticism_about_christianity_would_make_them_unelectable_today

Mr.Bill

(24,104 posts)
34. Isn't it just hilarious
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jun 2013

that they think they're losing national elections because they are not running candidates that are conservative enough? I have actually heard them say that if Santorum had won the nomination he would be president now. Here's hoping they continue to think that way.

Turbineguy

(37,208 posts)
35. Here's a nice slogan that will go far:
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:54 PM - Edit history (1)

"Freedom is not having to reload when you are killing a roomful of people!"

On second thought this might hurt the Democrats because she will bleed off the crazy cohort, leaving normal republicans with a choice other than vote for the democrat or stay home.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
52. It won't be a Freedom Party. It will be a religious party. She sees herself as Queen Esther.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jun 2013

You can count on it. She will wrap her religious party in any other name. This goes back all the way to Wallisa when the witch doctor prayed over her in their church. But like Reagan to talked about church they don't go to church.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
56. why do the same people who scream "SMALLER GOVERNMENT "
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jun 2013

Also believe in using the government to probe women's vaginas and limit which consenting adults can get married??????

Whhhhhyyyyyyyy?

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
57. Neglect? The whole party is as far right as you can go.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:12 PM
Jun 2013

Without actually declaring yourself a nazi. She's a fucking moron, they're all a bunch of morons. And yet they control the House in perpetuity and 23 or so state legislatures lock, stock and barrel.



 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
81. The GOP is to the left of Heinrich Himmler
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:08 AM
Jul 2013

Which is why the half wit half term governor of Alaska doesn't like the GOP anymore.

tavernier

(12,322 posts)
63. Creating a new home?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jun 2013

I thought they all lived happily in the Walmart and chick filet?? I don't go to either place so I never have to deal with them.

copperearth

(117 posts)
74. UMMM! Is this new Party for Cavemen
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 02:03 AM
Jul 2013

She must want to attract people who are somewhere between cavemen and Genghis Khan. I am certain she will be the party head. I wouldn't want top live under THEM!

David__77

(23,219 posts)
75. How delightful that would be.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 03:07 AM
Jul 2013

Indeed. I would LOVE to see the end of the corporate/fundamentalist/libertarian/white chauvinist alliance.

Notafraidtoo

(402 posts)
76. This woman has done more for the Democratic party.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 03:21 AM
Jul 2013

Then most Democrats, She is truly a gift that keeps on giving , From a Democratic Socialist i just want to say thank you Sarah for being you.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
80. Go rogue, Sarah, go rogue! What's taken you so long?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:01 AM
Jul 2013

"Third party GOP offshoot" is music to my ears.

angrychair

(8,593 posts)
140. wow
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:28 AM
Jul 2013

over time you can loose appreciation for how completely worthless she is and then along comes a video like this to remind you...

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
85. The Freedom Party?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:39 AM
Jul 2013

Made of people whose goal is to restrict the lives of others? There's some real Orwell shit going on in that pointy little head of hers, isn't there?

tclambert

(11,080 posts)
86. Pretty sure their idea of a "Freedom" Party would include the restoration of slavery.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:31 AM
Jul 2013

'Cause, see, outlawing slavery was just another example of big government infringing on the freedoms of slave-owners. Darn those anti-slave liberals! The party of Lincoln should re-dedicate itself to its core values of maximum freedom and minimum accountability for every single American with more than a billion dollars in wealth.

Grins

(7,134 posts)
90. Because the Alaskan Independence Party name was already taken.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jul 2013

The Freedom Party! Because the Alaskan Independence Party name was already taken.

Javaman

(62,439 posts)
92. The headline should read...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:18 AM
Jul 2013

"Sarah Palin Open to Creating New 'Freedom Party' if GOP Continues to 'Neglect the crazy' "

failing quitter struggles to stay relevant and maintain the payments on her caribou mansion.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
97. What about the Baggers? Is the GOP going to split in 3?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jul 2013

Oh please oh please oh please ... if the loonies are completely marginalized, the rest of us normal people with common sense and liberal leanings can get some shit done.

usaf-vet

(6,094 posts)
100. Please, please do it.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:06 AM
Jul 2013

Really please it will help the rest of us to separate the crazies (current republicans) from the bat shit crazies in the.... chuckle.. chuckle "Freedom Party" where group think will mandatory.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
101. May they Naderize the republican party in 2016 with their 20.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jul 2013

this is truly groovy!

As said, 80-20 is coming and I can't wait.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
102. do it please
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jul 2013

yes divide the GOP even more....then try to win a presidential election....see what Nader and Ross Perot did..... thanks

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
104. Do it! Go, Sarah!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:59 AM
Jul 2013

Zowie. This would be great. Yea, Freedom to do more 'against' stuff. And leave the moderate Republicans 'freedom' to work out issues.

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
105. This could be a great remedy to gerrymandering.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jul 2013

Even thought the GOP is bending over backwards to do everything the Tea-people want its still not enough for them.
Another example of denial of reality.

Rob H.

(5,340 posts)
107. The GOP didn't get where it is 'cause it's neglecting conservatives
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:24 AM
Jul 2013

It got where it is because it started paying even more attention to the batshit crazy ones. Case in point: Sarah Palin herself.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
110. Bigmouth Palin couldn't be independent of Canadian healthcare system (read government).
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:32 PM
Jul 2013

Does Palin get any government assistance for disadvantaged babies and young children?

Does Palin fly in airplanes?

Does Palin ride in automobiles on paved roads?

Has Palin ever driven over The Bridge To Nowhere?

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
114. I encourage this!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jul 2013

Do it girl! Show 'em what's what!1!

lolz

Sure would fuck up the R's, wouldn't it? hahahahaha


Julie

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
115. First of all, Sarah Palin is not a conservative
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jul 2013

She is a right wing moron.

A conservative is one who believe in some sort of hierarchy is necessary for the functioning of an orderly society; however, a conservative also recognizes that this social hierarchy is a man-made construct and that this construct may become dysfunctional over a period of time.

Please note that this writer is not a conservative, but a democrat. I do not believe that a social hierarchy is necessary for the good health of society. On the contrary, a rigid social hierarchy is, in fact, unhealthy.

A tenant of right wing ideology is, contrary to conservative doctrine, that social hierarchy is sanctioned by a super-human force and should never be questioned. This force may be divine or natural, but usually framed in a way to make it irrational. Claims that this race is better than that one, men are simply better than women, that heterosexuals are better homosexuals or that there is only one true religion and all others are false are never supported by any scientific facts or sound logic. Consequently, an irrational social hierarchy must be defended with violence and oppression as members of the underclass will rebel against the system and even more intelligent members of the privileged class are likely to question anything irrational. The Aryan ideal of Nazi Germany was based on irrational "theories" that were based on faulty science at best and at worse were nothing more than racist assertions made up out of thin air. Less murderous racist states, such as the Apartheid regime in South Africa, are still based on a social order that the official social mythology holds cannot be challenged when in fact challenging it is as easy as saying "I don't think so."

When pressed, a right winger may come up with something that is pseudo-logical argument, often loaded with panglossian reasoning. For example, please click here and check out this guy's nonsense.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
116. "many conservatives with "that libertarian streak" feel ignored by the GOP"
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jul 2013

So funny. They could just vote Libertarian, since they seem to identify a bit with that label, but I'm glad they're thinking 3rd party.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
118. Fun Fact of the Day:
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jul 2013

The number one way to elect a candidate for president: Split the other party.

I know she doesn't remember 1912, but I'd like to think she would remember 2000.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
119. I posted this in another thread....
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jul 2013

We have the GOP, the Tea Party and the up and comer Freedom Party by Sarah Palin who was sponsored by the Tea Party and the GOP while she was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, The party also advocates positions similar to those of the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party, supporting gun rights, privatization, home schooling, and limited government.

Have I missed anything?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3143410

Response to big_dog (Original post)

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
134. I guess they will only eat
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jul 2013

Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast as they try to get rid of freedom for everyone else. Fuck Palin.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
135. I love the name of that party, too.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jul 2013

To the lover of history, "freedom" has a very different meaning than the one projected by the people who use it.

For example, the Spartans were a military oligarchy that enslaved eighty percent of the people who lived within their territory. They were always on the opposite side of whatever the democracy of Athens was doing, and eventually teamed up with their historical enemies, the Persians, to defeat Athens. The Persians, of course, were the same Persians who killed King Leonidas and his Spartiate holplitai guard at Thermopylae pass, but Spartan leadership did not care about that so long as victory--for the vanishingly small leadership class of Sparta--was assured.

And what was the Spartan slogan for all of those years? "Freedom for the Greeks," of course.

American "freedom," in Republican parlance, is exactly as real as the "freedom" for which the Spartans fought, which is to say that it is not real at all except as a tool for separating more Americans from their lives and their property.

So yeah, Sarah Palin, you're really on to something there.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,154 posts)
136. "...this party of Lincoln and Reagan"
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jul 2013

They'd never even make it through the front door!

They wouldn't even survive in the present day GOP.

Wolf Frankula

(3,595 posts)
147. Look at Me! Look at Me! Look at Me!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jul 2013

Snow Snooki is a publicity junky. She needs to good cold turkey, or moose, in a cabin in the middle of the Alaskan tundra with no government checks, no phone, no internet connection, nothing.

Wolf

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