Glenn Greenwald To Fox News: 'The World Will Be Shocked' By New NSA Stories
Source: Huffingtonpost
Glenn Greenwald told Fox News on Tuesday that the "world will be shocked" by upcoming revelations about the National Security Agency's surveillance.
Greenwald spoke to the network's Eric Bolling, who has been a defender of Edward Snowden, the leaker who passed the NSA documents to the Guardian. Bolling asked him to divulge some information about what he has planned next, but Greenwald was coy.
"You're going to have to wait along with everybody else," he said. "I will say that there are vast programs, both domestic and international spying
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Demeter
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warrant46
(2,205 posts)Or worse maybe murdered
Athelete = Urban dictionary
Not to be confused with jocks, who are usually stuck-up idiots. Atheletes are people who are actually concerned about aspects of their lives other than their popularity and their cheerleader girlfriend. Athletes have an 85% better chance at becoming more successful than jocks, who will eventually be the people who clean the toilets at your local gas station. Atheletes, however, run a risk of being converted to jocks if they are on a sports team or group with them for an extended period of time (usually 2-3 years). High school teams usually are 10% athelets and 90% jocks.
Hey, Jackie Robinson was a great athelete! He broke the sports color barrier!
Hey, Michael Vick was a great jock. He fought dogs and lied about it!
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)No agenda with this group.. Does Glenn Beck know about this?
Are we going to blame Obama for this or blame Congress for passing the Patriot Act? Hmmmm which one will Fox News blame hmmmm I wonder?
Skittles
(171,717 posts)and start worrying about America?????
Civilization2
(649 posts)It is not about blaming one guy it is about a nation (the whole world actually) falling into a corporate-military system of oppression and a vast divergence in power. 1% is claiming to own all the wealth, while they build a system of an endless prison state where all is monitored and no reporting on reality is allowed.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)on the grill.
Either way, you're what's for dinner.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)many get sucked into the blame game forgetting about America. Many are easily led.
Skittles
(171,717 posts)these ones are even worse - you just KNOW they know better, and will be either be gone or on board in 2016
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)There is plenty for everyone.
mallard
(569 posts)... it's more as if they're pleased to announce details of the new national security regime, warn people about what they might otherwise say or do and act as if it were any other kind of news. This is huge, they will say, and they'll expect loyal viewers/fans to react ala 'I can live with that'.
flamingdem
(40,898 posts)
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(78,249 posts)
flamingdem
(40,898 posts)Perfect for leakers who like a tight fit 
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Not piece by piece but whole gawd damn thing. I'm sooooooooo tired of this jackass.
wtf is he doing? and why the slow drip?
think
(11,641 posts)by not corroborating the facts and understanding the evidence in their possession.
They've already raked every other story he's reported over the coals and the one next will surely test the fires once again.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)I would do the same thing. The population has a notoriously short attention span.
Politicub
(12,328 posts)He's intoxicated with his temporary celebrity.
So now we've got Fox News, Russia, Venezuela and China all playing roles in this story. Cuba has a minor role, and I'm waiting for North Korea to weigh in.
The more this gets played out, the more Snowden comes across as a traitor.
Was it good that he revealed Prism? Probably. Is how the story playing out solving anything? From my vantage point, it isn't.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)exactly.
Enough with the "lets jerk everyone around" game. Its getting really old.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)The government and corporations certainly try to manipulate the news coverage by timing the release of their stories. It's only sensible when your goal is to get your story out to as any people as possible.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)officials to get more tangled in lies.
Psephos
(8,032 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)then put your name on it.
Well, actually, that is they norm these days in the corporate media, but a few actual journalists are a bit more picky about what they run under their name. They like to vette the material for accuracy.
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)Greenwald used Snowden. Now he has what he wants. A global spotlight.
He really thinks he is worthy of our attention.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)why....wouldn't that be like........
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)endanger lives, etc. We are seeing the outlines of broad programs, not the details about locations of surveillance stations, etc. They have to be careful not to aid the enemy but yes, to inform the public. That may be why Snowden turned to Greenwald. Greenwald is not just a journalist looking for a scoop. He is a lawyer who can think about how what he does might violate the law.
The balance between a free, fully informative press and betraying things that really are secrets that could cost innocent lives is very difficult.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)frontier00
(154 posts)They next shoe to drop Domestically might be
U.S. wired tea party groups, then 2 months we find out they also spied on Progressive groups
Yeah baby... fusing Irs and Snowden into one story
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Something's fishy, and it's not Long John Silver's Big Catch (just name "The Worst Restaurant Meal In America"
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Hooray for Pepe
(30 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Yawn.
We know that every country in the world is spying on each other...and then they spy on the citizens.
Not news and if they want to check out my calls to Mom's cardiologist or when I call my neighbors to talk gossip...then listen away.
Greenwald, you've blown your "news" wad...and chitty chatting with Boiling? Fuck that shit...you've shown your true colors of being a slime ball.
PSPS
(15,322 posts)1. This is nothing new
2. I have nothing to hide
3. What are you, a freeper?
4. But Obama is better than Christie/Romney/Bush/Hitler
5. Greenwald/Flaherty/Gillum/Apuzzo/Braun is a hack
6. We have red light cameras, so this is no big deal
7. Corporations have my data anyway
8. At least Obama is trying
9. This is just the media trying to take Obama down
10. It's a misunderstanding/you are confused
11. You're a racist
12. Nobody cares about this anyway / "unfounded fears"
13. I don't like Snowden, therefore we must disregard all of this
14. Other countries do it
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Too bad there aren't just 11. If so I'd guess that the distractivists were just rolling a pair of dice and using whatever number comes up!
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)
Psephos
(8,032 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)a "file" with every piece of electronic data tagged to us.
Phones, debit cards, vehicle gps, e-mail, etc.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)And, it may be very wrong, even though they have kept details such as statements and associations and key strokes you long ago forgot. But, NSA never forgets, which is why it gets you and many others so wrong. It all goes into your Permanent Record, young man.
Your Permanent Record
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still_one
(98,883 posts)HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)Representative Loretta Sanchez).
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)already!
morningfog
(18,115 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)there's not nor will there ever be anything "new" revealed, and they're perfectly content (since they have nothing personally to hide, etc) to keep marching "forward".
I think that makes the rest of us racist, guilt-ridden nincompoops or somesuch undesirables, since we care more about the message than the distractions like the messengers Snowden and GG, for starters.
This is because as we know the president is powerless to act, because as we also know, he has to keep doing it whether he thinks it's unconstitutional or not, or no matter how far it diverges from the relevant law as written. That's why he keeps defending (well, more like avoids it, state secrecy, etc) it so avidly in the courts, unlike say DOMA. And of course he has no role or say in, say the interpretation of Section 215, etc, where such arises either.
A shattering of that faultlessness will leave many of them adrift in the Sea of Shame after all the garbage they've spewed around here. This is especially true given that many of their egos have already been weighted down from being so horribly wrong about the chained cpi their leader would never, ever entertain. I like the slow burn tactic he's using here, given the way it lets them commit before the next bit. We'd hate to see them choke all at once, or see them sink into the abyss quickly after the creation of so many faulty life preservers outta the messengers.
For the rest of it simply means we had BHO properly pegged when we voted for him.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)again the same talking point.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)government. Distrust of the federal government is their stock in trade, and gives Republicans a foothold in their quest to keep chipping away at the Fed, chipping away at federal regulations and protections of minority (all minorities) rights.
When states' rights trump the Fed, we may soon find ourselves at the mercy of these backwards assed states who are trying to keep us from voting, keep women from having access to safe healthcare, destroying any notion of a universal healthcare system. Those who claim Obama's trying to destroy the Constitution, along with the social safety net should think about the obvious contradictions. The Libertarians sure have.
"Take a look on Democratic Underground
They have the gov't paid trolls out, trying to limit the outrage & rebellion on there.
If that is the reaction of hard core Dems to the news stories on the NSA, I want to stoke up some more of it.
Lots of traffic on DU.
It's the most popular Dem internet site, except for Huffy Po - where everything meaningful gets censored."
http://www.dailypaul.com/288556/clapper-and-feinstein-get-caught-lying-big-time#comment-3103138
great white snark
(2,646 posts)The left as represented by DU....well....
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)While progressives are being treated to daily overdoses of GG, Snowden & Assange, the crap that's happening in the states is flying under the radar. Is it by design?
If I get you to look over there, then you won't pay much attention to what's happening over here. Keep a suspicious on the Fed, while we take away a woman's right to choose a safe abortion in OH & TX. Oh no, look up there, while we quietly cut off U/E benefits for the long term unemployed, in NC. It's okay, watch Obama, while we construct another 700 miles of fence at the border.
These are all things, in normal times, that would have "the left" in a righteous uproar, but GG, a big old phoney Libertarian, got them to "look over there". It's the classic divide & conquer. The good news is that "the left as represented by DU" ran a couple of candidates in 2012, and nobody noticed. They got their asses handed to 'em, because they don't actually represent "the left".
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Thanks!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)real world, however, Dems are still chugging along, fighting as best they can, the draconian takeover of our other rights. We've got some liberals pretending that the right to privacy is the most important right this country offers. If that's true, they should destroy their debit & credit cards, close their facebook, GMail, instagram, and DU accounts, throw away their cellphones, buy a cave, and get the hell outta Dodge. Nothing is Private.
I heard a report today that Cambridge, CT, who initially refused for four years, to turn on their Homeland Security cameras have now proposed to flip the switch. I'm sure it's in response to the marathon bombings, but it's Democrats in the State Legislature who are moving forward with this new surveillance, and it seems that the citizens are in support, except the ACLU. Cameras and surveillance drones are being deplyed in municipalities across the country. It's being debated in state houses. Where's the uproar?
Proposed police camera policy would allow surveillance of Cambridge streets
http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x1697572450/Proposed-police-camera-policy-would-allow-surveillance-of-city-streets#axzz2XviRcrzD
This is what I don't get, why wasn't there an uproar when the Patriot Act was renewed in '06, and then reauthorized in 2012? Didn't Congress debate all this stuff, and then proceeded to vote, overwhelmingly, for reauthorization?
Forgot10Hiro
(43 posts)if you have no civil liberties and your decisions are controlled and manipulated by elite power brokers?
Politicub
(12,328 posts)on Internet forums?
Voting rights matter a great deal. To believe otherwise is pure ignorance.
I resent your post and your siding with the Roberts majority on gutting the Voting Rights Act.
Forgot10Hiro
(43 posts)in order to try to distract from the governments persecution of a man for telling the truth and their continued violation of the constitution by instituting mass surveillance of American citizens without due cause.
Politicub
(12,328 posts)Good luck with your cause.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Kudos for your ironic honesty.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I've been reading your posts.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts) 
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)kos is the most popular site like du. in fact du has dropped in alexa us ratings.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts) madrchsod
(58,162 posts)i think his friends took his message to heart.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Human rights as an issue includes freedom of the press, of speech, etc. It is interesting to me how many DUers who would rightfully be outraged if someone made a racist remark on DU oppose those who are defending basic human rights when it comes to surveillance.
Surveillance gives power to the one doing the surveillance and obtaining the information obtained through surveillance over the person who is under surveillance.
The "sur" -- first syllable in surveillance -- means over.
And we refer to the victim of surveillance as being "under" surveillance.
Once you are under surveillance, you are not free. You are under the authority of those who are "sur" or above you.
Did this explanation help? Do we want to be under those who do the surveillance? I don't. I am an equal with anyone. I do not want to be beneath or under the computer geeks and NSA who do this surveillance.
classykaren
(769 posts)MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)
NoodleyAppendage
(4,625 posts)Are you comfortable with your new overlords, so much so that you can no longer recognize the scaffolding of fascism that is being constructed in plain sight?
J
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)Are you blind to this, or just willfully ignorant?
NoodleyAppendage
(4,625 posts)Please enlighten me.
J
BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)And the saga takes on a decidedly RWNJ profile.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)From PSPS's 14 Points
1. This is nothing new
2. I have nothing to hide
3. What are you, a freeper?
4. But Obama is better than Christie/Romney/Bush/Hitler
5. Greenwald/Flaherty/Gillum/Apuzzo/Braun is a hack
6. We have red light cameras, so this is no big deal
7. Corporations have my data anyway
8. At least Obama is trying
9. This is just the media trying to take Obama down
10. It's a misunderstanding/you are confused
11. You're a racist
12. Nobody cares about this anyway / "unfounded fears"
13. I don't like Snowden, therefore we must disregard all of this
14. Other countries do it
Perhaps someone should start giving out special DU Distractivist medals? (They'd be shiny objects, of course!)
spooky3
(38,634 posts)sikofit3
(145 posts)You need to add "Yawn" to that list... I see at least four of them have mentioned that as a response to posters on this thread alone..... Great list!!!
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I don't know whether it originated with PSPS though.
That said, I will take credit for coining the term "distractivist" to describe the folks who assiduously attempt to prevent us from confronting the truly frightening ramifications of un-checked NSA spying.
As for adding "Yawn," I think that's a variation on No. 12.
UPON EDIT: It appears as though I can't take credit for coining the word "distractivist" either. Although I used it on my own, there are other instances that pre-date me. So, although I'm not the originator, I will strive to be a popularizer. I think it is a very useful term for these times.
frontier00
(154 posts)Glen claims someone stole his laptop from his house
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I assume. Come on is this true?
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)really the whole world will be shocked?
sorry glenn.... the whole world will not be shocked.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Yawn.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)
Recursion
(56,582 posts)There's something Orwellian here, for sure, but it's not the government. It's a journalist who releases documents that say the opposite of what he says they say, and still gets a podium.
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)OLD NEWS!
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)and forced to issue an apology and probably lose his job. I am not ok with listening to my calls and such but international spying is what all countries do. To expose this hurts America...that felt very pukish. But seriously.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)