Newt Gingrich Would Send U.S. Marshals To Arrest ‘Activist’ Judges
Continuing his crusade against the courts, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich railed against judges imposing secularism on the country on this mornings Face The Nation. Arguing that activist judges who make disagreeable decisions should be held accountable before Congress, he told Bob Schieffer that he would send a U.S. Marshal or Capitol Police officer to arrest judges if thats what it took to reign them in, and then encourage impeachment:
SCHIEFFER: One of the things you say is that if you dont like what a court has done, that Congress should subpoena the judge and bring him before Congress and hold a Congressional hearing
how would you enforce that? Would you send the Capitol Police down to arrest him?
GINGRICH: Sure. If you had to. Or youd instruct the Justice Department to send a U.S. Marshal.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/18/391576/gingrich-marshal-judges/
So the bottom line is: Agree with me or serve hard time. All hail Emperor Lizard.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)and fade away.
BarbaRosa
(2,730 posts)Activist Judges? . .
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Actively fighting for the RWnuts, actively helping those opposing the new health care law bring their case to SCOTUS...yeah, Newt, let's see you arrest those activists.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)this just wouldn't fly, or whether this is the side of him that his former colleagues saw which has caused many of them to come out and say that he's not suited to be president.
Some of those colleagues have come close to suggesting that Newt's unbalanced.
To this former attorney, a scheme of judge humiliation seems to come from an unbalanced mind.
And it would obviously require an enormous increase in the number of U.S. Marshalls and would take up an inordinate amount of time.
The Constitutional problems would come on top of that.
bluevoter4life
(805 posts)Funny how they gloss that over when it suits their own twisted agenda.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)exactly what he's saying. I just don't think he wants to be president. Like McCain shuffling around the debate stage in '08, wanting to bring about this image of an old man, not someone that should be leader of the free (HA!) world. People would have to vote for him in spite of his behavior and views, rather than because of it. "I like him because he's a republican. I just wish he hadn't come out in favor of slavery."
I think they just don't want to run against such a strong opponent and get destroyed in the general election.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)using it not only for his ego, but also as free advertising to get his name out again, speaker fees, book advertising, etc., etc.
colorado_ufo
(6,252 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Newt always was on a book tour.
christx30
(6,241 posts)on the republicans. Nice. I like it.
But I've always thought that anyone (R/D/I) that seeks election to public office has either a huge craving for power, or an ego the size of a small moon. Looks like this is an ego thing, and going to be a huge waste of repubican resources. They are all going to rally around Newt, donate to his campaign and he's going to keep spouting crazy stuff ("You know... Trees are overrated. Hold on... hold on.. I'm making a point here..."
and make himself totally unelectable. But it'll be great advertising for his consulting business. Why anyone would want to have the point of view of a failed presidental candidate, I don't know. But this is going to guarentee a republican win. There is not anyone on their side that I "fear" (for lack of a better term), but Gingrich makes me laugh.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)and the thing just got out of hand.
I really can't see him as the candidate, though, and I'm not sure that he could either.
If by some chance he landed in the oval office, I don't know whether I'd call 911 and have him taken to St. Elizabeth's for evaluation or duck and cover.
christx30
(6,241 posts)think it's wonderful that the republicans have this much respect and faith in the democratic process.
Another way of looking at it (and, please forgive me if this is just the way my mind works).. If they were seriously opposed to the way this country is being run, and they had actual problems with the way that Obama is handling things, they would put a serious candidate up. This mythical candidate would be more warrior, and less joke, as we are getting now. This person would say, "Limbaugh? He's okay. I don't really like liberal radio, though."
But as it stands right now, their guy of choice is talking about employing kids as janitors. Very hard to take him seriously as a threat.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)Newtie and Paul make Romney look positively Democratic.
Just kidding.
Magoo48
(6,721 posts)Dude's really got his Bozo on now. No way he ever really wanted the nomination. All he ever wanted was to pump up his various cons.
Botany
(77,324 posts)That was his reason because after all he "understands" the law in a different way
than people who study and/or work with it.
BTW he is a piss poor historian too.
Through Articles I, II, and III of the Constitution the Founders established three separate, co-equal branches of government, the Legislative, the Executive, and the Judiciary.
Read more: http://community.adn.com/adn/node/152944#ixzz1gzXcqO6h
dixiegrrrrl
(60,161 posts)amandabeech
(9,893 posts)executive did.
At least a unitary executive like Bush II.
I would like to have seen Cheney do the Rasputin with someone like Ike or Teddy R. Both Republicans, both with brains, both knowing how to deal with subordinates.
The Wielding Truth
(11,433 posts)IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,307 posts)... hoping to pander to the mindset that activist judges are the ones that created: lesbians, gays in the military, right for the disabled to remain alive, banning religious displays from public/government property (separation of church and state), etc...
But on face value, it appears that Newt is asking for a totalitarian government, where the head honcho/Stalinist/Nazi can have anyone in government that disagrees with him --- beheaded, drawn and their quarters sent to the four corners of the country.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)or has zero self-awareness of his appearance to others.
He knows that if he can become the greatest conservative iconclast in the country he can generate $ 20 million and work a couple hours a day.
or in other words;
Gingrich is drinking Limbaugh's milkshake.
And watching people fall for this charade is quite amusing.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Like Sarah P., he's mercenary enough to know that this kind of crazy talk is worth big bucks on the talk radio and publishing circuits. He's punching his ticket for the rest of his life.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)So far everytime somebody has left the race, Pawlenty, Palin, Cain, Romney has picked up zero supporters.
In fact after Cain left Romney actually lost support in NH.
So far Gingrich has lost 8 points in NH and Romney has continued to lose support.
This more than anything else will prove to Republican professional campaign experts that Romney doesn't have what it takes to grow his base.
jeaps
(68 posts)Newt doesn't want to be president, he wants to be a talk show host on wing-nut welfare. On "Morning Joe" they are discussing his "zen" appearence. It is true that Newt knows how to play to fools.
rocktivity
(45,006 posts)He might even be under orders to.
Newt knows perfectly well that the Rethug leadership won't step aside and let him run everything -- Newt would never play the role of figurehead/puppet the way Bush II did or Romney would have to.
So either he's trying to lose, is out of his mind, or, as you suggest, is auditioning to be the new Glenn Beck.
rocktivity
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)this whole GOP series is mostly about books and name recognition.. i think the wall street part of the party picked mitt a long time ago,the rest is ticks and mirrors elections are a great source of cash.. witness the dude that offered Gingritch cash for his campaign, that would have made a serious candidate jump..
all these folks will end up as lobbyyists, or some think tank darlings..the GOP griftopia pays well indeed
the irony is that becuase of the feild, they may sosplit upthe vote, that the GOP goes to a brokered convention.. my dream a brokered convention and OWS in the streets of Tampa..
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)has been my prediction all along. It sets the stage for the grand appearance of - the jebster - he savior of the rethugs.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)All those sick fucks would.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)saras
(6,670 posts)They really are that anti-human that ordinary 'psycho' and 'evil' don't really seem to fit any more.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)kiranon
(1,739 posts)What fools Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas have been. Do they want to be hauled in front of Congress or have their colleagues dragged from the Court? Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas have ruined the status and prestige of the Supreme Count such that clowns like Gingrich can threaten to rein in the Supreme Court justices as if they were criminals. The Court needs to remind politicians that they are the third branch of government and not subject to Congress's approval by way of arrest, interrogation and removal. Court needs to get rid of the "Citizens United" decision and go on from there to save the Republic and themselves.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)Trust me on this: This fucker is going for liberal judges, not conservative ones. A liberal judge makes a ruling Newtie doesn't like? Off with his head! OTOH, Citizens United is definitely a ruling Newtie likes; in fact, if Citizens United would have overturned all elections law, Newtie would like it even better.
And this will happen at every level.
But don't you worry: Gingrich is going to arrest liberal judges who make rulings he doesn't like; Bachmann will counter within the week that she'd create a "Judge Dredd"-like corps of people to arrest and summarily execute liberal judges. And the week after that, Perry will remove all the liberal judges from the bench at every level the day he gets inaugurated, so there won't be any more decisions conservatives don't like. Oh, and all three will overturn both Roe v. Wade and Griswold v. Connecticut.
quakerboy
(14,868 posts)The 5 conservative SCOTUS members are corrupt, no doubt about it. But they LIKE their power, no doubt about that. And the precedent of being able to arrest judges who disagree with a president or congress would not make them happy. Even with the way our system is balanced against the possibility of a liberal getting into a position of power, I dont think that's something they would chance.
Its talk. I would certainly hope that its talk that would disqualify one Newt from presidency in a general election, even if it makes him more popular with the absolute wacky nutjobs that make up republican primary voters. I really hope that, though I fear it might not be enough by itself.
kiranon
(1,739 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I often find the worst scenarios to be the most interesting. Not so sure I want to live through this one though.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)Sounds like he wants to be a fascist dictator with his boot perpetually on the poor and minorities.
abq e streeter
(7,658 posts)all the way down to all the Regent "University" grads Dubya placed in the judiciary nationwide. Finally a great idea from Newt. I KNEW he had one in him .
chelsea0011
(10,222 posts)What's troubling is how much support he is getting.
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aletier_v
(1,773 posts)obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)Cherchez la Femme
(2,488 posts)Heck, when he makes poor children become school janitors, we'll then most definitely be in Banana Republic territory.
Zorro
(18,692 posts)It's catnip to the Republican base, who are eager to see him insulting Obama face-to-face.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)melonkali
(114 posts)Now could we replay the bit about artificial Palestinians....?
Come on, Dems, let's troll the GOP and support Newt!
housewolf
(7,252 posts)He wouldn't dream of touching and of the rightie activist judges
It's that ol' Newtie hypocrisy rearing it's heat yet again
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)wow.
Renew Deal
(85,151 posts)aletier_v
(1,773 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)There's a job opening in North Korea!
Renew Deal
(85,151 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)unkachuck
(6,295 posts)....exactly, I think newter is on to something....I like the idea!
yurbud
(39,405 posts)melonkali
(114 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Dangerous.
I hope Newt comes in fourth or lower in Iowa.
yellowcanine
(36,792 posts)don't agree with a judge's decision, you appeal it. You don't arrest the judge.
applegrove
(132,217 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)zogofzorkon
(262 posts)just buy them, or if not for sale remove them from the market.
47of74
(18,470 posts)
Kurovski
(34,657 posts)The crazier he talks, the higher he can afford to build his post-campaign crown.
Joe Bacon
(5,167 posts)Initech
(108,783 posts)Confusious
(8,317 posts)Haven't you seen the republican party lately?
They like crazy. The more the better.
To avoid Godwin's law, if they could vote for you-know-who, they would.
P.S. Godwin's law might not apply, since his actions would be clearly fascist.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm sure he'd enjoy the power trip.
W T F
(1,188 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)that's the silver lining to that storm cloud.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)this is precisely why our country is a democracy and why we have no monarchy.
thank goodness there is secularism--because that means you can't shove your catholicism down everyone's throats. The Judicial branch of the government is legitimate and equal.
truthisfreedom
(23,532 posts)I mean seriously! Is he telling us how to win back the country?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)to see just how crazy right they can go and get away with. Newt says he'll arrest "activist judges" (meaning left-leaning judges), they poll to see what people think of that statement. If it polls well, they know they can start attacking "activist" judges in a more open manner than they currently are (if you haven't and can, check out the documentary Hot Coffee to see how the Repub party is already attacking judges).
Michele Bachmann is given a script of super crazy things to say, she says them and then they poll their party and independents to see where the line is...
I really think that is what's going on. They're mapping their future talking points and marking their roadmap for the future.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,307 posts)... kind of like, "if you repeat a lie often enough, some folks will start to believe it".
ScottLand
(2,485 posts)onenote
(46,142 posts)Do you really think that without the passage of the NDAA a President Gingrich would behave any differently?
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,848 posts)I think only the 9th has more judges that have been appointed by Democratic presidents. I know that was the case as Bush was leaving office. And, with Obama's nominees being blocked in unprecedented numbers, I don't think that's changed in the last 3 years.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)continues apace. What a colossal asshole.
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)Decrying his dictatorial Communist Socialist Extra-Constitutional Extraordinary Power Grab.
What an ass Gingrich is.
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)This should DQ him from being a candidate.
jimlup
(8,010 posts)As such an action would be a major breech of the constitution. I do fear this man. "Lizard" is a very apt description for this reptilian.
marias23
(379 posts)Imagine if he got elected: This would put a chill in US Judiciary.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Their party is so divided, and their lineup isn't inspiring any passion that can breach the divide. Originally I wouldn't have ever entertained the remote possibility of Newt getting the nod. However that was before I realized just how little control the GOP party leaders actually still hold. Their Frankenstein Monster (Tea Party) is still running amok across the country spreading havoc and alienating a large portion of their voting block. This is the best political climate Newt, and all the rest of the truly insane GOP fringe politicians, will ever have to make a run for president.
I still expect Romney to come out ahead, but I'm fascinated by the depths the GOP candidates have sunk to this time around.
arbusto_baboso
(7,162 posts)Because a huge number of them would.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)tcaudilllg
(1,553 posts)People with no sense of the majority's decency and good sense fear that the powers of the government will be used against them. In reality, Ocuppy-style movements always tip the balance back in the other direction in a free society. The sacrifice and determination of the occupiers lifts their voice above establishment media and provides an inspiration for others to follow. I would very much like to see Scalia, Alito, and Thomas removed from the judiciary. Very much so. Scheiffer's "sometimes you just have to accept the law" response is an invitation to losing all we hold dear before a rogue court. Today people are skeptical of Republican presidents, but come 2016 Barack will be leaving and Bush will be all but forgotten. There will be renewed struggle and renewed opportunity for an extreme Republican president to tip the balance. And with Kennedy aging, that time may come sooner than you think.
Charlemagne
(576 posts)See, see! both sides make statements like this. The left needs to tone down the rhetoric.
On one hand, you have a candidate for president who is leading in many polls stating that he would arrest judges he disagreed with.
On the other hand, you have an anonymous person on a message board who wrote a question.
Same thing. The vitriol from the left is equivalent to, or greater than, anything the right does.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)It points out the hypocrisy of Newtie's idea. Activist judges are in the eyes of the beholder.
Charlemagne
(576 posts)cheers!
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)You sounded so serious!
onenote
(46,142 posts)which is why the calls made by some DUers in the past for impeaching Scalia et al for their vote in the CU case have been rightly met with derision by other DUers who recognize that subjecting justices to review because of disagreements about the substance of a decision is a very very dangerous road to start down.
Deep13
(39,157 posts)The kind Bush and Cheney illegally ignored?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)For the last month, Newt was unnaturally, almost weirdly so, under control, calm, cool, collected, and low key while under fire. It was so unnatural and bizarre (given his normal behavior patterns) that I seriously wondered if there were a prescription-based reason that might explain his new and improved behavior.
my worries were completely misplaced. At last, the Bad New has returned, and with a vengeance. He is now sliding that slippery slope where he applies the same age old habits he employed to threaten the entire judiciary, to comments about his opponents, especially now that his numbers are weakening.
Just watch. There will be a Newtonian eruption so huge that alien beings in distant planetary systems will be convinced that our sun just went supernova.
ashling
(25,771 posts)except for the tea party, of course.
evilhime
(373 posts)the man seems to have no concept of what the Constitution says about division of powers, and the reason for the judiciary. He wants to be dictator for life, and this would be step one. So sad that people actually support this ... er ... (what words am I allowed to use here...???
)
krucial
(206 posts)Just another example of how dangeorus and Lethal the GOP could be to whats left of our democrcay,civil rights and fredoms, if they were ever to get elected to lead this country,it would make all the Obama haters see that no matter how much they hate Obama,that his reign would be like a picnic compared to what Fascist tyrants like Gingrich would do to America.
Gingrich is a Racist,a White Nationlist, a hater of the middle class and the poor, a hater of Muslims/Arabs, as are most Republicans,and Gingrich is also a hater of Gays,and and an extremely arrogant warmonger.
Charlemagne
(576 posts)For the republicans. My republican friends have told me how much they hate the courts. And how the courts subvert what the founding fathers intended (which I guess is why the FFs made the courts in the first place?!?!).
Anyway, they see the courts as a barrier to achieving total cultural and economic hegemony over the US. They dont like the constitution at all. They want a fascist dictatorship that outlaws homosexuality and anything other than fundamentalist christianity.
Republicans will love this statement.
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)I told you he was a NEWTZI!
SAME shit Hitler did!
ChadwickHenryWard
(862 posts)How he has gained a reputation as a policy wonk is beyond me. He just doesn't understand how the US government works.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)But he really doesn't care. It is all about Newt, all the time.
As per my other post in this thread, the Constitution is silent as to who decides if an act of Congress or an action by the Executive Branch are legal. The Supreme Court established the principle of judicial review in Marbury v. Madison. But the Court realized one small problem, it had no mechanism to enforce its decisions. It was totally dependent on the other two branches of government, and especially the Executive, to respect and comply with its decisions.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)i heard it on teevee
dgibby
(9,474 posts)but clearly (IMO) he jumped the border (and the shark) long ago.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)when he was running for office
Initech
(108,783 posts)And he's completely unelectable. None of this shit he's recommending would never get past the house. At least I hope. Reagan had charm and charisma - two things Newt definitely lacks.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,276 posts)What a Nazi like statement.
How many people came here in the beginning, from Europe, to escape religious persecution?
Our courts and government need to be secular, it's what the founding fathers wanted. If not welcome to the new dark ages, what's next, being arrested for suggesting the earth revolves around the sun rather than vice versa?
Anyone who sticks with Gingrich after this is out of touch with reality.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Newt Gingrich's campaign is rapidly imploding, and Ron Paul has now taken the lead in Iowa. He's at 23% to 20% for Mitt Romney, 14% for Gingrich, 10% each for Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry, 4% for Jon Huntsman, and 2% for Gary Johnson.
The good news is that Paul is leading. If Paul gets the nomination, the Democrats won't even have to campaign. Most Republicans will stay home and hide under the bed out of shame.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)Newt alludes to the principle of judicial review that was articulated by the Supreme Court in Marbury v. Madison. It established for the first time that, under the concept of checks and balances in the structure of our federal government, the courts determine the constitutionality or legality of acts of Congress. Without that balance, Congress and the Executive Branch could enact and enforce any legislation regardless of whether or not it conformed with the U.S. Constitution.
But it is true that the Court lacks any means of enforcement. It must be that Congress and the Executive Branch recognize the validity of court decisions.
So Newt, as President and Congress with at least one chamber in the Congress in Republican control could effectively vacate any decision by any federal court by simply ignoring the decision(s) and not enforcing them.
While this might be true in theory, I think there would be such an uproar in this country the likes of which we haven't seen since the Civil War. That would be an outright attack on our historic system of checks and balances.
I don't always agree with decisions of the courts including Citizen's United, Bush v. Gore, etc. but I will respect those decisions because I want an independent judiciary. The concern I have now is the increased politicization on the Court including the behavior of Scalia and Thomas and, to a more limited extent, Chief Justice Roberts.
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)I mean really. He should always be pictured wearing a brown shirt.
That asshole has NO idea what this country stands for.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Kurovski
(34,657 posts)Yeah, he'll be doing that any day now.
paparush
(7,992 posts)What a slimy grifter Newt is.
This is akin to Palin encouraging her flock to "pull over" Obama supporters and ask them how hope and change is working out.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Newt will send federal marshals to drag judges before hearings he compels Congress to convene. If he keeps loving his country this much he may exhaust himself with too many of these brilliant ideas and cheat on another wife.
Islandlife
(212 posts)I think that if you are subpoenaed by congress, then you must appear for questioning or face being arrested.
I don't know if we want to subpoena judges. That would be like baseball coaches calling balls and strikes. You can't protest judgement calls. You can question interpretations of rules.
Newt says he would subpoena judges.
GreenTea
(5,154 posts)who disagree with him or his policy since he is now president - Is this correct Newtie?