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temmer

(358 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:58 PM Jul 2013

Tsarnaev pleads not guilty

Source: USA Today


BOSTON -- Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, appearing disheveled and fidgety, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to 30 counts of using a weapon of mass destruction stemming from the Boston Marathon bombing.

Tsarnaev, 19, turned and looked repeatedly into the full-house crowd that assembled in federal court here as he entered not guiilty pleas to 30 counts stemming from the Boston Marathon bombing. He spoke in a Russian accent.

Tsarnaev was wearing a partially unbuttoned orange jumpsuit and a black t-shirt. He looked over his right shoulder as if to see who was there. Judge Marianne Bowler said that present were 30 victims of the bombing and family members.

He wore a cast on his left arm and hand and displayed a crooked smile to two sisters, both in Muslim garb, seated in the courtroom.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/10/tsarnaev-boston-marathon-bombing-hearing/2504681/

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Tsarnaev pleads not guilty (Original Post) temmer Jul 2013 OP
And he has a fanclub, much like Snowden, who think he's been abused by the government. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #1
Bye. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #9
Oh no! I'll try to pick up the pieces, and move on with my life. There must be a support group. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #10
Yes Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is basically Edward Snowden. Ash_F Jul 2013 #12
I know...they are exactly the same! kurtzapril4 Jul 2013 #15
#freejahar.... penultimate Jul 2013 #23
That was a pretty rotten swipe at some of your fellow board members. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #28
Pfft. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #29
I make a huge effort to treat others with respect Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #30
So what do you want? Flowers? I guess "respectful" is in the eye of the beholder? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #32
i hear he had some groupies out there to show support for him JI7 Jul 2013 #2
There's groupies here on DU. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #3
Give it a few days he will have a fan club here. iandhr Jul 2013 #4
They are already here. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #8
Really? Here? penultimate Jul 2013 #24
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #33
It's the Snowden Effect. Anyone who's pissed off at the the US is immediately canonized & embraced. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #6
Think that was true long before Snowden iandhr Jul 2013 #7
It is, and it is. MADem Jul 2013 #17
I think your post sums up the feelings of the mother whose sons lost their limbs. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #21
I Thought We Called Them The Tea Party n/t DallasNE Jul 2013 #19
We used to. But since they couldn't win the WH, they decided DU was as good..... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #20
Well you had women lining up to Iliyah Jul 2013 #5
Not guilty? Yeah...good luck with that. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #11
Death penalty is on the table, so that mandates that plea. MADem Jul 2013 #18
Kinda off topic .. Lenomsky Jul 2013 #13
Here in NC Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #16
Innocent until proven Guilty .. Lenomsky Jul 2013 #14
Sorry. We're not going to stop talking about the case just because you say so. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #27
+++ temmer Jul 2013 #34
UPDATE: Tsarnaev defense team requests additional lawyer temmer Jul 2013 #22
He feared for his life because of all those people were running at him!! JoePhilly Jul 2013 #25
Beat me to it fredamae Jul 2013 #26
+1 DCBob Jul 2013 #31

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
1. And he has a fanclub, much like Snowden, who think he's been abused by the government.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jul 2013
"Some of the supporters started chanting — “Justice for Dzhokhar’’ and “Give him his freedom back’’ — as the motorcade took Tsarnaev into the courthouse."

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/07/10/marathon-bombing-suspect-dzhohkar-tsarnaev-arrives-boston-federal-court-for-arraignment/IDlnqJkurvDNkpGmRTxQzI/story.html




Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
10. Oh no! I'll try to pick up the pieces, and move on with my life. There must be a support group.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jul 2013





Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
12. Yes Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is basically Edward Snowden.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jul 2013
<- shouldn't be necessary but hey it's DU.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
23. #freejahar....
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:55 AM
Jul 2013

Is always an interesting twitter tag to search for. It really is mostly young girls who seem to support him because they find him cute. There are some who have what some might have more legitimate views on it. I might disagree with what they say, but at least it's not built on "he is soooo cute" type stuff.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
30. I make a huge effort to treat others with respect
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jul 2013

I don't always succeed in all of my posts but I do make an effort. It makes the experience here much more pleasant.
Peace, Mojo

JI7

(93,615 posts)
2. i hear he had some groupies out there to show support for him
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jul 2013

because he is cute and therefore he must be innocent .

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
24. Really? Here?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jul 2013

I haven't seen any of them yet. I'm guessing I will have to keep an eye out. I've tried to engage some of them on twitter, but they are not into having discussions.

*wait, are you talking about snowden or Jahar?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
6. It's the Snowden Effect. Anyone who's pissed off at the the US is immediately canonized & embraced.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jul 2013

It's ludicrous, and kinda scary.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. It is, and it is.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jul 2013

Small consolation--they're so busy yelling at people who don't feel the way they do, that they don't do any real "activism."

IIRC, weren't the sisters, in their hijab for the cameras going into the courtroom, in trouble for something? Embezzlement? Drugs?

Here we are:

The Record said police searched the apartment after smelling marijuana and that Tsarnaeva was charged with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tsarnaev-sister-pleads-guilty-article-1.1357377#ixzz2Yh4JIq9s


They are a bunch of fucking grifters, if you ask me--and the Islamic bullshit is too much. I don't know any religious Muslims who act like this:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/04/tsarnaev_family_history_theft_violence_islam_and_the_boston_marathon_bombings.html


Theft and lawbreaking. By now, most of us have heard that the bombers’ mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, was arrested last year for shoplifting and destruction of property. This weekend’s stories confirm that the charge was a felony, that the quoted value of the merchandise was $1,600, and that the owner of the property was Lord & Taylor, the same company whose security cameras captured the bombers at the marathon. As many as nine dresses were involved in the theft, according to the Post. Zubeidat left the country before the case was resolved, so a warrant remains out for her arrest.
Now it turns out that the bombers’ father might be a shoplifter, too. Anzor Tsarnaev fixed cars for a living. “Sometimes, when he needed parts, he would show up at Nissenbaum’s Auto, a nearby parts and repair shop,” the Post reports. “Several times, workers said, Anzor went into the parts yard to find a bracket or screw and emerged offering to pay a small sum for a handful of items. But employees would see his pockets stuffed. Confronted, they say, he admitted picking up a few other meager items.”
The Post cites other stories in which Anzor bent laws or ethics. He “obtained cars in bad shape, made cosmetic fixes and then sold those vehicles for a profit,” the article reports. A neighbor says Anzor “regularly threw his trash in neighbors’ recycling bins despite being asked to stop, filled precious spaces in this parking-starved city with cars he was working on, and claimed a 10-minute loading zone as his all-day storage space.” These are petty offenses, but what stands out in the neighbor’s account is Anzor’s imperviousness to reproach: “No matter how many times people told him it wasn’t right, he did it anyway.”
We’ve all heard that Dzhokhar was a pothead. But the Los Angeles Times says that according to his friends, he also regularly sold the drug. His sister Bella may have done the same: The Post reports that in December, she was arrested and charged with intent to distribute marijuana.

These infractions are nothing like terrorism. But a family with two shoplifting parents and two pot-selling kids is, on its face, a family with a culture of bending or breaking the law. Zubeidat’s flight from justice, coupled with that line about Anzor—“No matter how many times people told him it wasn’t right, he did it anyway”—doesn’t suggest a lot of remorse, either. The family culture doesn’t explain the bombing. But it’s hard to believe that it’s entirely unrelated.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
21. I think your post sums up the feelings of the mother whose sons lost their limbs.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:33 AM
Jul 2013
"Liz Norden, a Wakefield mother with two sons who each lost a leg, was disturbed listening to the sobs of one of Tsarnaev’s sisters. “Hearing his sister cry made me angry,” she said outside the courtroom. “Look at what he caused. How dare they cry and look at what he did to all these people.”


Personally, I think religion is nothing more than a convenience for this eff'd up family. I could care less what happens to the lot of them.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
20. We used to. But since they couldn't win the WH, they decided DU was as good.....
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:23 AM
Jul 2013

a place as any to start suppressing those midterms.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Well you had women lining up to
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jul 2013

marry the Mendenez brothers.

Fan club have already started here at least one so far . .

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. Death penalty is on the table, so that mandates that plea.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jul 2013

If they took it off he could cop a plea.

If he's anything like his fucked up parents, though, he thinks the law doesn't apply to him.

Lenomsky

(340 posts)
13. Kinda off topic ..
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 08:07 PM
Jul 2013

but when did a bomb become a WMD?

This new term is a tad OOT can a automatic rifle be called a WDM too!?

Anyway, let justice be done regardless of my interpretation of WMD and RIP those that lost their lives in a reckless/insane act of WHATEVER it was!

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
16. Here in NC
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jul 2013

WMD's under state law have included bombs, rockets, rifles over .50 caliber, machine guns, any shotgun with a barrel shorter than 18 inches, any rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches, any shotgun or rifle with an overall length under 26 inches, silencers, and some other odd things.

It has been that way since the 50's, well before WMD became a buzzword.

Lenomsky

(340 posts)
14. Innocent until proven Guilty ..
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jul 2013

Come on folks he'll have his day in court no trial by media .. then he can rot in Hell

 

temmer

(358 posts)
22. UPDATE: Tsarnaev defense team requests additional lawyer
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:48 AM
Jul 2013
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/07/tsarnaev_defense_team_pushes_to_add_death_penalty_specialist

Tsarnaev’s legal team already includes Judy Clarke, who helped negotiate life sentences for Unabomber Ted Kaczynski and Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph.

“If this case did not present ‘exceptional circumstances’ justifying appointment of an additioanl lawyer learned in the law applicable to capital cases ... no case would,” Clarke wrote in her motion.

“Media reports have described the global scope of the investigation, involving hundreds of agents and witness interviews. Counsel expect that the amount of discovery that this investigation will produce will be truly massive. Thus even were this not a potentially capital case, the magnitude of the task confronting Mr. Tsarnaev’s attorneys would be daunting,” she wrote.

Tsarnaev, 19, pleaded not guilty in federal court last week to 30 charges, 17 of which carry the death penalty. His legal team tried to add Bruck to its ranks back in April. At that time, a judge denied the request but promised to review it after his indictment.

- See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/07/tsarnaev_defense_team_pushes_to_add_death_penalty_specialist#sthash.tQeNE3Fm.dpuf


Obviously the defense team is determined to fight.





JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
25. He feared for his life because of all those people were running at him!!
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jul 2013

And lots of them looked foreign.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
26. Beat me to it
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jul 2013

I am wondering after the bs verdict if the zim case would allow This criminal an "out clause" also--He claims he Fears (all of us) for His life too!

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