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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:11 PM Jul 2013

Egypt Morsi: US seeks end to ex-president's detention

Source: BBC News



The US has called on Egypt's army to free deposed President Mohamed Morsi, amid ongoing protests on the first Friday of Ramadan.

The appeal echoed a similar call hours earlier from Germany.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23296463

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Egypt Morsi: US seeks end to ex-president's detention (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jul 2013 OP
So the Obama administration is proving the protesters right. David__77 Jul 2013 #1
Morsi has not been indicted yet. If he is then let the legal process go forward. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #2
Um, he's the elected head of state who was seized by a military coup. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #3
That is correct. David__77 Jul 2013 #6
Not really, he is the democratically elected head of Egypt - though the US would have preferred one karynnj Jul 2013 #4
The US should not say it is NOT a coup. David__77 Jul 2013 #7
\More subtle than saying it is not a coup karynnj Jul 2013 #8
Its not a coup is the traditional sense. DCBob Jul 2013 #12
Obama needs to John2 Jul 2013 #10
Ahem! another_liberal Jul 2013 #5
Illegal John2 Jul 2013 #9
How about . . . another_liberal Jul 2013 #11

David__77

(24,728 posts)
1. So the Obama administration is proving the protesters right.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jul 2013

The protesters have accused the US of being biased toward Morsi and the brotherhood. It does seem to be so. If Morsi is guilty of crimes, he should be charged.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
2. Morsi has not been indicted yet. If he is then let the legal process go forward.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jul 2013

But for now there is no justification for detaining him. Calling for his release does not show a bias.

karynnj

(60,967 posts)
4. Not really, he is the democratically elected head of Egypt - though the US would have preferred one
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:02 PM
Jul 2013

of the moderates.

Note that they are NOT saying that Morsi needs to be put back in power. You could actually make a case that that would be the reasonable action - and suggest that he be removed only by election or some kind of legal process. That there is NO talk of that suggests that the US - if anything - is biased against Morsi.

The real problem of the Obama administration is that there is an old law that says no aid to countries headed by someone who came to power in a coup. Yet, the main reason we give the aid to Egypt we do is for leverage with Egypt.

David__77

(24,728 posts)
7. The US should not say it is NOT a coup.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jul 2013

Obviously, it is. If I'm not mistaken, there is a loophole - that should be openly applied rather than attempt to avoid labeling it as a coup. I'd prefer that congress revoke that law entirely.

karynnj

(60,967 posts)
8. \More subtle than saying it is not a coup
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:54 PM
Jul 2013

is not calling it a coup.

I don't hope the Congress revokes the law - as it is really makes sense. What they can do is explicitly ask for an exception.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. Its not a coup is the traditional sense.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:44 AM
Jul 2013

If it was a true military coup they would have taken over completely and installed a military man as leader and taken over the media and the people would not be rallying and encouraging them to do what they did.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
10. Obama needs to
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:54 AM
Jul 2013

mind his own business and let the Egyptian people solved their own problems. The rights of the Egyptian people is not the real reasons he wants to intefere in Egypt. It all goes back to what is good for Israel. That is whose pulling his strings. The Egyptian military needs to break their dependance on Foreign Governments because they want strings attached. They should tell Obama to go away.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
5. Ahem!
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jul 2013

"President," rather. He is still the democratically elected President of Egypt. His arrest and removal from the Presidential palace was thoroughly illegal. Don't take my word for it, ask Ban Ki Moon or the majority in the U. N. General Assembly.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
9. Illegal
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:44 AM
Jul 2013

by whose standards? He is the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and one of their most important Allies calling for Jihad in Syria. Ban Ki Moon is another puppet. I hope you understand those dynamics. President Obama does not command the Egyptian military through bribes or anything else. The reason they removed Morsi, is because he threatens the rights of all Egyptians. I would remove his ass too, if I had the military power to do so. The people supporting the military agree with him. The U.S. State Department also tried to suppress demonstrations against him but organizations ignored them. The U.S. needs to stop intefering into their affairs. Morsi can participate in Democracy all he wants, with conditions set by the other side. Those conditions was as long as he stop trying to act like a dictator and oppressing the rights of other Egyptians. Since he can't abide by those rules, there is nothingelse the military can do but remove him by force. Isn't it obvious, when you got Israel trying to buy off the Egyptian military too through bribery.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
11. How about . . .
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:37 AM
Jul 2013

Egyptian law. But it's also a standard of international legal norms that anyone who overthrows his own government by force is kind of like, you know, criminal.

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