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think

(11,641 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:36 PM Jul 2013

FBI blocks release of autopsy on Boston suspects' pal

Source: USA Today

Michael Winter, USA TODAY 5:23 p.m. EDT July 16, 2013

Feds still investigating agent's fatal shooting of Ibragim Todashev during questioning in Florida

The FBI has barred the Orlando medical examiner from releasing the autopsy report on a friend of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects who was shot dead by an agent during questioning in May.

Although the autopsy on Ibragim Todashev was completed July 8 and "ready for release," the FBI "has informed this office that the case is still under active investigation and thus not to release the document," Tony Miranda, forensic records coordinator for Orange and Osceola counties, wrote in a statement Tuesday. The statement cites a Florida statute that bars the release of autopsy reports during criminal investigations.

The ME's office said it would contact the FBI every month for authority to release the report.

An FBI agent killed 27-year-old Todashev in his Orlando apartment during questioning related to the bombings and an unsolved triple murder in Waltham, Mass., two years ago. The agency and the Justice Department are conducting an internal investigation.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/16/fbi-todashev-autopsy-boston-marathon-bombing/2522677/

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FBI blocks release of autopsy on Boston suspects' pal (Original Post) think Jul 2013 OP
It should be illegal for the federal government to withhold evidence Fearless Jul 2013 #1
Florida BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #8
A cess pool since Jeb at least. Fearless Jul 2013 #9
They need time to...ahem...alt..er..ah means investigate. BornLooser Jul 2013 #2
Cover Up BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #11
Presumably the autopsy could change ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #3
The original report shows christx30 Jul 2013 #14
"conducting an internal investigation" ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #4
What else could an autopsy be other than "an internal investigation"? Nihil Jul 2013 #13
LOL - I'm quite sure that you are aware ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #15
Hopefully some congress people will take note and give a damn think Jul 2013 #21
aka coverup dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #5
The FBI's Nearly Unbelievable Record of "Justified" Shootings Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 #6
The man was shot 7 times while unarmed, in FBI custody. Octafish Jul 2013 #7
Shot 7 times. think Jul 2013 #10
But only ONCE in the back of the head. Gee. What does this seem like? panzerfaust Jul 2013 #16
Still borrowing your Obama-hating photos from the Tea Party? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #17
The Father sure seems to think so: think Jul 2013 #19
Unfucking believable. 7 times? An unarmed person? We're gonna need hip boots and shovels if they GoneFishin Jul 2013 #12
Here's a solution that would reflect public opinion Bragi Jul 2013 #18
what are they hiding? the man should only have body damage of 1 fatal gunshot wound. Sunlei Jul 2013 #20
I have a sneaky suspicion that the FBI will never ever close this case... Javaman Jul 2013 #22

Fearless

(18,458 posts)
1. It should be illegal for the federal government to withhold evidence
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jul 2013

That makes them look bad.

Oh wait, it is.

 

BehindTheCurtain76

(112 posts)
11. Cover Up
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:47 PM
Jul 2013

You cannot trust the FBI or any other alphabet soup agency...almost EVERYTHING they say is a lie...and guess what...Obama stands up to none of it...maybe NSA whistleblower Russ Tice is right, even Obama is being blackmailed.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
14. The original report shows
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:22 AM
Jul 2013

gunshot wound as cause of death. Six months from now when no one'd looking, it'll be rectal cancer.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
4. "conducting an internal investigation"
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jul 2013

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internal investigations

oh yeah -

THOSE work real good . . .

CC

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
15. LOL - I'm quite sure that you are aware
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:33 AM
Jul 2013

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that autopsies take note of external injuries to determine the events that lead to death.

Some well trained enforcement people even know to "bag" the hands to look for evidence of a struggle between the perpetrator and the victim to collect evidence, even possible DNA of the attacker.

Back on topic, I'm also pretty sure that an organization,

be it Government or otherwise conducting an internal investigation

is not likely to find fault with itself.

CC

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
6. The FBI's Nearly Unbelievable Record of "Justified" Shootings
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jul 2013

From 1993 to early 2011, F.B.I. agents fatally shot about 70 "subjects" and wounded about 80 others — and every one of those episodes was deemed justified, according to interviews and internal F.B.I. records obtained by The New York Times through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. The last two years have followed the same pattern: an F.B.I. spokesman said that since 2011, there had been no findings of improper intentional shootings. ...

Out of 289 deliberate shootings covered by the documents, many of which left no one wounded, five were deemed to be "bad shoots," in agents' parlance — encounters that did not comply with the bureau's policy, which allows deadly force if agents fear that their lives or those of fellow agents are in danger. A typical punishment involved adding letters of censure to agents' files. But in none of the five cases did a bullet hit anyone.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/06/19/ibragim_todashev_shooting_fbi_says_its_never_unjustifiably_shot_a_subject.html

 

think

(11,641 posts)
10. Shot 7 times.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jul 2013

Thank you for posting this information and link. I did not know that.

 

panzerfaust

(2,818 posts)
16. But only ONCE in the back of the head. Gee. What does this seem like?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jul 2013

Protecting Democracy.

"As soon as men decide all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil they set out to destroy."
John Locke


 

think

(11,641 posts)
19. The Father sure seems to think so:
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jul 2013

Family wants probe of FBI shooting of Ibragim Todashev

May 30, 2013|By Sergei L. Loiko and Michael Muskal


“The shot in the back of the head indicates that they were shooting to finish him off,” he said. “My son was interrogated for eight hours by four or five FBI agents and I will never believe he could be in a position to attack any of them. In the very least between the four of them they could have subdued him physically instead of riddling him with bullets.”


Full article:

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/30/nation/la-na-nn-fbi-shooting-boston-bombing-20130530

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
12. Unfucking believable. 7 times? An unarmed person? We're gonna need hip boots and shovels if they
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

ever release the report on this.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
18. Here's a solution that would reflect public opinion
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:11 AM
Jul 2013

The FBI should shut down the city, dress up in their best military gear, and conduct warrantless house-to-house searches to find evidence of why they shot this man 7 times. The rousted citizens can emerge from their houses hands-up over their heads while shouting thanks to law enforcement for their diligence. This approach would certainly reflect the new security-before-rights sentiment.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. what are they hiding? the man should only have body damage of 1 fatal gunshot wound.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:17 AM
Jul 2013

They better not be hiding torture damage.

Javaman

(65,704 posts)
22. I have a sneaky suspicion that the FBI will never ever close this case...
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jul 2013

Just a hunch.

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