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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:41 PM Feb 2012

Fake US bonds worth trillions seized

Italian prosecutors say they have broken up an organised crime ring that was hiding trillions of dollars of fake US bonds.

Worth $6 trillion, the bonds were found in three metal boxes in a warehouse in the Swiss city of Zurich.

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Fake US securities have been seized in Italy before and there were at least three cases in 2009.

But this case is on a different scale to previous investigations, as the fake bonds have a value equivalent to almost half of the entire US debt pile.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17076378

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Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
5. The same as any counterfeit currency.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:54 PM
Feb 2012

If you can pass it off to an unsuspecting mark, a lot. Or if they had access to real bonds they could switch them out and it might be a while before it was noticed.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
3. Fake US bonds worth trillions seized
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:52 PM
Feb 2012

Uh... shouldn't that be...


Fake US bonds worth fake trillions seized?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
12. This has apparently take years and years to set up
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 03:12 PM
Feb 2012

They'd already sat in Zurich for some years having been moved there from Hong Kong. Nobody know at present what the eventual aim was for their use. See video at post #11

That's sure no amateur production.

 

stockholmer

(3,751 posts)
14. eventually, all bonds, (counterfeit or not) will be worth less than the paper they are printed on
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:05 PM
Feb 2012

right now, if a criminal could have gotten real, tangible wealth and goods for the 'fake' bonds, they will make out better than a person trying to redeem a 30 year US T-bill in 2042.

It's called the 'no US default ever' option, as the Federal reserve will simply print to inifinity till the system collapses. And believe me, you will NOT have to wait till 2042 to see the outcome. 2020 or so is the longest I can see the ponzi scheme lasting (and only that long because of the 6,000+ thermonuclear warheads and empiric force projection via the Pentagon backing up the dying fiat dollar).



Greenspan: U.S. can never default, because it can always “print money” 8-7-2011



meow2u3

(24,774 posts)
15. That must have been the bogus bonds Wall Street sold to the EU
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:13 PM
Feb 2012

No wonder Greece's, Portugal's, Ireland, Spain's, and Italy's economies are in the toilet.

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