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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:38 PM Jul 2013

NYC Mayor Vetoes Bills Attempting To Limit Controversial 'Stop And Frisk' Searches By Police

Source: REUTERS

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City Michael Bloomberg on Tuesday vetoed two measures meant to curb the city's controversial stop-and-frisk policing policy, setting up a likely showdown with the City Council.

Bloomberg called the bills dangerous and irresponsible and said they would make the city less safe.

One measure would create an independent inspector general to monitor the New York City Police Department. The other would expand the definition of racial profiling and allow people who believe they have been profiled to sue police in state court.

Bloomberg has defended the policy of stopping, questioning and frisking suspected wrongdoers to fight crime.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nyc-mayor-veto-bills-limit-stop-and-frisk-policy-2013-7

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NYC Mayor Vetoes Bills Attempting To Limit Controversial 'Stop And Frisk' Searches By Police (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2013 OP
hell yeah, let's make the NYPD chief Head of Homeland Security, he's got the right stuff nt msongs Jul 2013 #1
"wrongdoers" - right out of Idiot Son's mouth ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #2
Not much reason to have a constitution someone else Jul 2013 #3
more like "wrongcolors" Prospero1 Jul 2013 #11
This why Quinn needs to be zentrum Jul 2013 #4
I don't know about Weiner being unelectable. This is NY we are talking about, they don't much care sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #6
but. . .but. .but he showed his dick to someone that wasn't his wife Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #7
He made it our business. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #15
I'm one of those New Yorkers... zentrum Jul 2013 #16
Same thing with Giuliani, who did a lot worse, he moved his mistress into Gracie Mansion while his sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #17
Sigh obama2terms Jul 2013 #5
With many things in government christx30 Jul 2013 #9
Of course we can't have limits on police power.... blackspade Jul 2013 #8
Who's the NYPD chief, George Zimmerman? alp227 Jul 2013 #10
Giggity giggity giggity! KamaAina Jul 2013 #13
'Bloomberg called the bills dangerous and irresponsible and said they would make the city less safe' Indi Guy Jul 2013 #12
In ascending order, a Governor or President who won't let go. But thank Zod for this veto. What if 24601 Jul 2013 #18
Oversight and accountability inevitably leads to mass death in the streets nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #14

msongs

(73,688 posts)
1. hell yeah, let's make the NYPD chief Head of Homeland Security, he's got the right stuff nt
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jul 2013
 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
2. "wrongdoers" - right out of Idiot Son's mouth
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jul 2013

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That pretty much says it all.

Anyone that denies that the USA is becoming a police state have their eyes closed,

and their brains turned off.

CC

someone else

(55 posts)
3. Not much reason to have a constitution
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:58 PM
Jul 2013

This is just plain wrong and yes, we are living in a police state.

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
4. This why Quinn needs to be
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:32 AM
Jul 2013

...defeated. She's a Bloomberg clone.

This is why Weiner's behavior is really hurting New Yorkers---because it makes him unelectable.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. I don't know about Weiner being unelectable. This is NY we are talking about, they don't much care
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 02:29 AM
Jul 2013

about people's personal sex lives. Weiner would be infinitely superior to Quinn, cyber sex or no cyber sex. And we have no idea what Bloomberg or Kelly or Quinn have been up to in their personal lives. But they've served the real bosses of the country well, so we won't find out.

Weiner earned the wrath of the Far Right who were following him around so closely for months to try to get something on him, and we now know his 'data' was in the hands of the NSA, that he could not have hidden anything he was doing even if he tried.

The reason? He was going after Justice Clarence Thomas and was succeeding in getting Congress to change the laws re SC Justices and Recusing themselves if they have a conflict of interest. Thomas had a serious conflict of interest regarding Citizens United who helped finance his defenses before Congress during his confirmation hearings, and should have recused himself from that vote.

Weiner was furious that he had not done so and was on the air in NY regularly drumming up support to get a bill before Congress requiring SC Justices by law, to recuse themselves when they have a conflict like that. As it stands now, it is the 'honor system' and Thomas has no honor.

He was succeeding and he needed to be silenced. Granted, it was his own fault, but had he been a good little puppet, we would never have heard about it.

NYers are pretty savvy, they know a lot of this and I doubt you'd find a majority of people there who care much about this.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
7. but. . .but. .but he showed his dick to someone that wasn't his wife
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:22 AM
Jul 2013

he is a creep, a perv and should go into hiding in a cave and renounce his citizenship due to his poor judgement.

Politics be damned. . .even on DU, people are throwing a good Democrat under the bus for pious, bullshit reasons that are none of our fucking business to begin with.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,185 posts)
15. He made it our business.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jul 2013

He made it our business when the sick freak tweeted it to tens of thousands of people. He made it our business when he lied to his constituents about it. He's hurting the party by focusing all this negative attention on himself, that's not a good Democrat. If he were a "good Democrat" he would do what's best for the party and go away until he gets help.

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
16. I'm one of those New Yorkers...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jul 2013

...I could care less about his sex life but I know how politics and the media works. There will be a steady drip, drip of scandal and it will make his candidacy a circus and should he get elected, his tenure will be greatly weakened. I don't for a minute think this latest is the end of it.

New Yorkers need a fully effective Mayor. Weiner at this point hurts the progressive platform for the city because he's got to always be on the defensive for these stupid displays of horrible judgment.

Don't forget NY is not just Manhatten and parts of Brooklyn--it's Staten Island, and Queens.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Same thing with Giuliani, who did a lot worse, he moved his mistress into Gracie Mansion while his
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jul 2013

wife and children lived there. He had the tax payers pay for her 'protection' and when anyone attempted to approach him on the subject, they were harassed by his buddies in the NYPD.

Like I said, if New Yorkers put up with the vile Rudy Giuliani and his cheating and sending the bill to the tax payers, something Democrats should remind those going after Weiner of, they are either total hypocrites or they just don't care about people's personal lives.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
5. Sigh
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:39 AM
Jul 2013

There's no excuse to stop random people and frisk them just because they "might have" done something. What happened to our right to turn down searches without a warrant? The police don't even need probable cause to stop and frisk people! What the hell is this!? Geez maybe this will finally show my mother that Bloomberg isn't that great. The guy just wants WAYYYY too much control over what people do. The soda size ban, stop and frisk, the hiding cigarettes proposal. I mean come on he isn't our mom or dad! It's ridiculous.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
9. With many things in government
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:14 AM
Jul 2013

these days, they don't have to prove that what they are doing doesn't violate the constitution. They just have to kind of show that they need to violate the constituion.
I think it's sickening.

alp227

(33,272 posts)
10. Who's the NYPD chief, George Zimmerman?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jul 2013

And with mayors, I'd rather have Glenn Quagmire (Weiner) than a police state apologist if that is the city choice.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
12. 'Bloomberg called the bills dangerous and irresponsible and said they would make the city less safe'
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jul 2013

What could be more dangerous & unsafe to democracy than a mayor who refuses to relinquish his power at the end of his elected term???

24601

(4,139 posts)
18. In ascending order, a Governor or President who won't let go. But thank Zod for this veto. What if
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jul 2013

Al Kader was trying to sneak big gulps past the city limit?

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