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BradBlog

(2,938 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 03:22 AM Jul 2013

BREAKING: North Carolina Legislature Approves Nation's Most Restrictive Voter Suppression Law

Source: BRAD BLOG

BREAKING: North Carolina Legislature Approves Nation's Most Restrictive Voter Suppression Law
U.S. Supreme Court gutting of Voting Rights Act paves way for radical new restrictions on democracy in Tar Heel State...

Late Thursday night, the North Carolina state legislature approved a radical voter suppression bill on a party line vote. The measure, easily the most extreme anti-voter bill passed by any state since the Jim Crow Era, now heads to Republican Governor Pat McCrory for his signature. Court challenges, many of them, will most assuredly follow...
...
In the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court's recent gutting of the important pre-clearance provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act --- the provision which had required states with histories of racial discrimination, like NC, to obtain federal approval before making any changes to voting laws --- NC and other states now "freed" from the yoke of not being able to discriminate, have been on a tear to pass discriminatory laws previously denied under the VRA.

NC has now done that in a way that no other state has yet even tried. They have, in essence, included in this bill every conceivable voter suppression tactic that has ever been dreamed up over the past decade by the Republican Party --- and then some…

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10156


Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10156

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BREAKING: North Carolina Legislature Approves Nation's Most Restrictive Voter Suppression Law (Original Post) BradBlog Jul 2013 OP
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2013 #1
Send in the National Guard. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #3
Yes, it does BradBlog Jul 2013 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #25
Very well put MrNJ Jul 2013 #35
You decided not to vote anymore, therefore nobody else's voting rights matter? CreekDog Jul 2013 #37
This. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #39
^This2^ n/t louslobbs Jul 2013 #77
I didn's say I don't vote MrNJ Jul 2013 #45
You agreed with a post saying that voting is harmful. Nice try at denial though. CreekDog Jul 2013 #57
+1000 blackspade Jul 2013 #52
The short-sighted often misinterpret a tactical defeat for one side as being the same as a strategic LanternWaste Jul 2013 #64
Sad, but true. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #6
Please reconsider, i don't believe not voting is the answer.... Deuce Jul 2013 #7
that solves nothing secondwind Jul 2013 #9
When did you vote last? Kablooie Jul 2013 #10
That's like deciding to never eat again because McDonald's exists. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #11
Congratulations! You've swallowed Glenn Greenwald's BS hook, line, and sinker -- with exactly struggle4progress Jul 2013 #12
Is Greenwald the fucking antichrist? blackspade Jul 2013 #51
His arguments and positions certainly do... LanternWaste Jul 2013 #63
then why are you on a Democratic website? how bout you just Tunkamerica Jul 2013 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #26
If you cared about democracy you'd vote . bahrbearian Jul 2013 #33
Some people shouldn't vote ... ever again. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #21
Welcome to DU Thor_MN Jul 2013 #27
What a nice way to call someone a troll. IdaBriggs Jul 2013 #40
Seriously, I have to say that is the most awesome way I've seen anyone call another out Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #86
So you won't vote to legalize weed? bahrbearian Jul 2013 #32
Results of your jury bahrbearian Jul 2013 #34
I also alerted, but didn't see the results. IdaBriggs Jul 2013 #41
Lame alert. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #42
Trolls who post that they will not vote for Democrats don't belong on DU. IdaBriggs Jul 2013 #58
So if someone with a low post count disagrees with you they are a Troll, good to know. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #66
low post trolls noiretextatique Jul 2013 #69
Reading comprehension problem? IdaBriggs Jul 2013 #79
I don't know about that. I think there is a huge difference between a Troll and a Disilluisioned Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #87
The poster was a troll and MIRT made him go away. IdaBriggs Aug 2013 #88
Oh no, I agree with your assesment completey Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #89
Sad but no surprise davidpdx Jul 2013 #4
NC had been moving in a positive direction until the Republican take-over of 2010 struggle4progress Jul 2013 #13
No, it IS a surprise...a real JOLT to North Carolina marions ghost Jul 2013 #24
my rethug friends are even embarassed bluemarkers Jul 2013 #48
interesting marions ghost Jul 2013 #49
We're being Koched and Poped and it ain't fun after working so hard SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #61
Koched and Poped = Hijacked marions ghost Jul 2013 #71
may the 2013 disaster for North Carolinians be disastrous for national Republicans in 2014 carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #8
We are seeing more and more LTTE from life long Republicans in NC saying they will not vote Repub mnhtnbb Jul 2013 #15
Excellent marions ghost Jul 2013 #50
What in the hell has happened in North Carolina??? theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #14
Desperate attempts to prevent exactly that. Thor_MN Jul 2013 #28
Sums it up marions ghost Aug 2013 #85
Go Republicans, once again proving just how much they hate democracy and how far they're willing to spicegal Jul 2013 #17
I thought a party can't just take over and change things this rapidly? RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #18
The GOP has full control of the NC state government, sparky. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #22
They did it through John2 Jul 2013 #56
Criminee, look at some of these provisions: Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #19
Wow. theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #20
They Will Be Arrested Or Beaten By The NC State Police Gestapo If They Even Open Their Mouths TheMastersNemesis Jul 2013 #31
That is why John2 Jul 2013 #44
Well, Lincoln led us in Civil War Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #59
Look at this - blm Jul 2013 #76
It is time for John2 Jul 2013 #38
Obama and everyone in his administration is a joke Doctor_J Jul 2013 #78
At the end of Gulf War #1, Saddam set the oil fields on fire ... JoePhilly Jul 2013 #23
This one particularly galls me: reflection Jul 2013 #29
So, in other words, Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #60
Hell, I'm getting to the point reflection Jul 2013 #62
I just took John2 Jul 2013 #65
And a 10-page ballot and NO straight-ticket voting (intended to slow the process down) Triana Jul 2013 #80
it`s just not the "south" madrchsod Jul 2013 #30
True atreides1 Jul 2013 #36
That is why I John2 Jul 2013 #43
Gee - the SCOTUS told us that the South had "changed" and the Voting Rights Act was "outdated" jpak Jul 2013 #46
I don't see John2 Jul 2013 #55
Move aside Florida ... North Carolina is now the new poster child for voter suppression. Auggie Jul 2013 #47
More disgusting anti-American crap from the party of hate. blackspade Jul 2013 #53
Repubicans stupidly leading the country into the Dark Ages. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #54
I wish there were a Democratic philanthropist LiberalLovinLug Jul 2013 #67
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #68
so scotus was wrong...how shocking noiretextatique Jul 2013 #70
Thank you Bradblog! marions ghost Jul 2013 #72
Huh? How is an increase from $4,000 to $5,000 voter suppression? Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #73
Is that a serious question? BradBlog Jul 2013 #74
Does not make sense to me. If I can donate more to the candidate of my choice, that gives me MORE... Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #84
Breaking: Nothing will be done about Doctor_J Jul 2013 #75
well at this rate anyone PatrynXX Jul 2013 #81
I remember voting at 17 because the primary was before my 18th birthday and the general election 24601 Jul 2013 #82
it seems to me maindawg Jul 2013 #83
Kick this important story about our enemy Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #90
It's the 1950s all over again! Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #91

Response to BradBlog (Original post)

BradBlog

(2,938 posts)
5. Yes, it does
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:18 AM
Jul 2013

"I for one will never vote again."

Excellent! Then nobody needs to steal your vote! You're just giving it to them. Smartly done!

"We live in a fascist surveillance state now, with both political parties complicit and/or compromised. None of them represent the people."

Um, you realize there are other parties beyond the two you cite, right? But, beyond that, rolling over and letting the bad guys win sounds like a very effective strategy. Best of luck with that!

Response to BradBlog (Reply #5)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
37. You decided not to vote anymore, therefore nobody else's voting rights matter?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jul 2013

and two low post count posters echoing each other patting themselves on the back here for not voting isn't very credible.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
57. You agreed with a post saying that voting is harmful. Nice try at denial though.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jul 2013


I love weed (50 posts)
25. They already won, pal.

And our votes just give them legitimacy that they do not deserve.


Response to I love weed (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:42 AM

MrNJ (76 posts)
35. Very well put

My feelings and thoughts exactly.


 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
64. The short-sighted often misinterpret a tactical defeat for one side as being the same as a strategic
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jul 2013

The short-sighted (and the stoned, I suppose) often misinterpret a tactical defeat for one side as being the same as a strategic victory for the other side.

It's a rather lazy way of thinking, but I do see the convenience in rationalizing a surrender...

struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
12. Congratulations! You've swallowed Glenn Greenwald's BS hook, line, and sinker -- with exactly
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 05:54 AM
Jul 2013

the result GG wanted from you!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
51. Is Greenwald the fucking antichrist?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:23 PM
Jul 2013

Because he seems to get dragged into every stinking discussion now....

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
63. His arguments and positions certainly do...
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jul 2013

His arguments and positions certainly do... often re-stated by our own dear and illustrious DUers.

Response to Tunkamerica (Reply #16)

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
27. Welcome to DU
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:08 AM
Jul 2013

Hopefully you are finding it to be everything you expected and more. The overall tone of your post kind of clashes the the tone of the site, so you might find people trying to pull you out from under the bridge and change you mind. Or not, but in any case, enjoy you time here!!!

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
86. Seriously, I have to say that is the most awesome way I've seen anyone call another out
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 04:08 PM
Aug 2013

for being a troll.

Kudos!

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
34. Results of your jury
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:57 AM
Jul 2013

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

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Not voting for all = 'this post shows that the author does not vote for Democrats' in TOS. Probably a troll or griefer, at the least. Who needs this?

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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
41. I also alerted, but didn't see the results.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jul 2013

Pretty blatant troll.

Or just a really depressed person who smokes week to self-medicate.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
58. Trolls who post that they will not vote for Democrats don't belong on DU.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jul 2013

Your mileage may vary.

ON EDIT: And with a username like "I love weed" I think the housing options this person utilizes are pretty obvious.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
79. Reading comprehension problem?
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

The low post count guy SAID he won't vote for Democrats. Nothing to disagree with, straw man. Blatant terms of service violation.

ON EDIT: And MIRT agrees. He's gone.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
87. I don't know about that. I think there is a huge difference between a Troll and a Disilluisioned
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 04:10 PM
Aug 2013

progressive.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
88. The poster was a troll and MIRT made him go away.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:44 AM
Aug 2013

With that being said, I understand we have disillusioned progressive dems who are trying to deal with the current reality of our political life.

It is depressing.

But that isn't the same thing as a troll, who just wants to join to spit on dems. Disillusioned progressives want to shake a spine into the politicians; trolls want to get Republicans in instead.

My opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. Sad but no surprise
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:06 AM
Jul 2013

NC, Texas, Florida are all regressive states that have continued to take away voter's rights.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
24. No, it IS a surprise...a real JOLT to North Carolina
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:44 AM
Jul 2013

NC has been Koched and hijacked by a mix of Corporates and Teahadists and does not deserve to be dragged kicking and screaming back into the past from which it had truly emerged. Many have fought to make significant changes there and also in FL and TX. North Carolina's current general assembly's agenda is only supported by 20% of the state. The story of how they stole NC is shameful. North Carolina is (was!!) one of the more progressive purple states.

Please America, understand what is really going on in these states.


Read "State For Sale" in the New Yorker if you want to see how they did it in North Carolina:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_mayer

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OTOH, if NC is trashed and hurt by what the maurauders are doing to the state, then maybe a point will have been made to the PTB. Nobody from more progressive places wants to live or do business in a backward state. So if it hurts NC's image, then that might help to wake up the stupid, and give the white collar thugs in power some food for thought.

But at least understand there are people in NC trying hard to turn this around and they need support.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
48. my rethug friends are even embarassed
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:20 AM
Jul 2013

I have not had any blow back at all concerning my (ahem) many fb posts concerning the greedy old party. One friend said she supported voter id, but that was the only part of the bill she supported. It's kinda weird. There was more discussions defending zimmerman than any attempt to defend ncga. PLUS, if you look at the photos of Moral Mondays, White people are showing up in huge proportions! We realize that while the naacp may be facilitating the event, these horrible policy changes effect all people. We are in this together.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
49. interesting
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jul 2013

keep up the educational effort! I only have a few R associates & there's little opportunity for taking their temperature. They tend to be business sector conservatives, so I know they must be conflicted by all this. And I would hope that younger conservatives are not buying this jerk back into the 19th century. They're generally more open-minded than their parents.

Moral Mondays reflects the ethnic makeup of the state. It's a fusion movement with 150 citizens groups represented. But Moral Mondays owes everything to the wisdom and vision (and organizing powers) of the NC NAACP. It is they who have provided the model for unified and consistent non-violent civil disobedience against these jerks in power. They know the response from the people needs to be a stance of dignified and unequivocal resistance. And the leadership and eloquent voice of the Rev Barber is a huge plus. THIS is the spirit of North Carolina! Not what McCrony and the Pirate Sector represent.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
61. We're being Koched and Poped and it ain't fun after working so hard
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jul 2013

to get to where we were.

Thanks for helping keep things straight, I've grown tired of defending us. I think to encourage folks who worked so hard to make changes in '04, '08, and '12 to keep on trucking, it's a good idea to not keep acting like we're a lost cause!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
71. Koched and Poped = Hijacked
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jul 2013
So many have worked so hard -- for years, decades -- for all the progress that has been made in NC. This is such an arrogant slap in the face. Intolerable.

You and I know that North Carolina is not a lost cause. But let people think that. Let it hurt the state's reputation. It's what those clueless, narrow-minded power drunk idiots deserve. People around the country are saying "North Carolina-- yuk!" Depressing. It hurts now--but it will ultimately go against them.

We won't give up. Enough good people pulling together can take NC back. And hopefully the rest of the (progressive) nation will support this push back by the people. Moral Mondays have put the state on the national radar. Those pirates think they're riding high now...they think they've done a real coup--gotten a lot of their retro stone age agenda through, and ready to do more damage. They're gonna see it backfire.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
8. may the 2013 disaster for North Carolinians be disastrous for national Republicans in 2014
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:53 AM
Jul 2013

This story is not going away. The Republican takeover in NC has evoked more intense resistance than any such accomplishments elsewhere. As things unfold through McCrory's term, the horrors of Republican governance in NC may work against the party's fortunes in 2014 and 2016.

mnhtnbb

(31,404 posts)
15. We are seeing more and more LTTE from life long Republicans in NC saying they will not vote Repub
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:23 AM
Jul 2013

again. None of these extreme right wing measures that have been passed by this legislature were in
campaign platforms. McCrory has already reneged on two promises: no further restrictions to abortion
and state tax reform to be revenue neutral.

Will they be able to destroy enough votes to retain power in 2014? Remains to be seen.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
50. Excellent
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jul 2013

McCrony is a puppet of Pope and ALEC.

------------

If anyone needs a refresher on ALEC:

ALEC is not a lobby; it is not a front group. It is much more powerful than that. Through ALEC, behind closed doors, corporations hand state legislators the changes to the law they desire that directly benefit their bottom line. Along with legislators, corporations have membership in ALEC. Corporations sit on all nine ALEC task forces and vote with legislators to approve “model” bills. They have their own corporate governing board which meets jointly with the legislative board. (ALEC says that corporations do not vote on the board.) Corporations fund almost all of ALEC's operations. Participating legislators, overwhelmingly conservative Republicans, then bring those proposals home and introduce them in statehouses across the land as their own brilliant ideas and important public policy innovations—without disclosing that corporations crafted and voted on the bills. ALEC boasts that it has over 1,000 of these bills introduced by legislative members every year, with one in every five of them enacted into law. ALEC describes itself as a “unique,” “unparalleled” and “unmatched” organization. We agree. It is as if a state legislature had been reconstituted, yet corporations had pushed the people out the door.
Who funds ALEC?

More than 98% of ALEC's revenues come from sources other than legislative dues, such as corporations, corporate trade groups, and corporate foundations. Each corporate member pays an annual fee of between $7,000 and $25,000 a year, and if a corporation participates in any of the nine task forces, additional fees apply, from $2,500 to $10,000 each year. ALEC also receives direct grants from corporations, such as $1.4 million from ExxonMobil from 1998-2009. It has also received grants from some of the biggest foundations funded by corporate CEOs in the country, such as: the Koch family Charles G. Koch Foundation, the Koch-managed Claude R. Lambe Foundation, the Scaife family Allegheny Foundation, the Coors family Castle Rock Foundation, to name a few. Less than 2% of ALEC’s funding comes from “Membership Dues” of $50 per year paid by state legislators, a steeply discounted price that may run afoul of state gift bans. For more, see CMD's special report on ALEC funding and spending here.

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/What_is_ALEC%3F

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
14. What in the hell has happened in North Carolina???
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:04 AM
Jul 2013

Damn, and not so long ago I had high hopes it was surely turning blue.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
28. Desperate attempts to prevent exactly that.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:11 AM
Jul 2013

I expect we will see increasingly bold attempts to hold on to power in the red states.

spicegal

(758 posts)
17. Go Republicans, once again proving just how much they hate democracy and how far they're willing to
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:50 AM
Jul 2013

go to make ensure they have power. I hope folks are paying very close attention.

RandiFan1290

(6,244 posts)
18. I thought a party can't just take over and change things this rapidly?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:16 AM
Jul 2013

We always hear that from our "centrist" friends. Where do the repugs find this hidden power to make such drastic changes?


Where are the filibusters? Where are the "secret holds?" Where are the grand bargains and deals the democrats love to make?


JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
22. The GOP has full control of the NC state government, sparky.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:24 AM
Jul 2013

And the state government has neither filibusters, or secret holds.

Some people really need to take a few civics classes.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
56. They did it through
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:12 PM
Jul 2013

gerrymandering. They didn't win the majority of the vote in North Carolina. All the Democratic votes or most were concentrated in smaller areas, which were in heavily populated areas. All the Republicans did was get enough population in Districts to satisfy the requirements for equal representation set by the Supreme Court. There is a way to affect a present law though. Voters can also use a petition or referendum.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
19. Criminee, look at some of these provisions:
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:16 AM
Jul 2013

Other provisions in the revamped bill include the following:
•Eliminate pre-registration for 16- and 17-year-olds, who currently can register to vote before they turn 18.
• Outlaw paid voter registration drives.
• Eliminate straight-ticket voting.
• Eliminate provisional voting if someone shows up at the wrong precinct.
• Prohibit counties from extending poll hours by one hour on Election Day in extraordinary circumstances, such as in response to long lines.
• Allow any registered voter of a county to challenge the eligibility of a voter rather than just a voter of the precinct in which the suspect voter is registered.
• Move the presidential primary to first Tuesday after South Carolina's primary if that state holds its primary before March 15. That would mean North Carolina would have two primaries during presidential elections.
• Study electronic filing for campaign returns.
• Increase the maximum allowed campaign contribution per election from $4,000 to $5,000.
• Loosen disclosure requirements in campaign ads paid for by independent committees.
• Repeal the publicly funded election program for appellate court judges.
• Repeal the requirement that candidates endorse ads run by their campaigns.


 

John2

(2,730 posts)
44. That is why
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 10:25 AM
Jul 2013

Eric Holder needs to act, screw the Republican House. The President needs to act period also along with the Democratic Senate against the Republican Party. What would President Lincoln or JFK have done? Today's Democratic Party is letting the Republican Party carry out a coup on all levels of Government. It even goes up to the Courts with their refusing to allow appointments. You can put that all together and make a good case against the Republican Party. Even their fake investigations with the IRS and Benghazi. I would even add in the theft of the Presidential election in 2000.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
38. It is time for
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jul 2013

Holder and Obama to do their jobs. The same goes for that Democratic Senate and every Democratic representative. When are they going to get off their behinds and fight for their constituents against the Republican rightwing Party?

What people need to do is mobilize in the Democratic Party nationally and bring a Class Action case against the Republican Party, for violation of Voters Rights under the Constitution. Every point that you have listed, interferes with a person's legal right to vote within the Constitution just by one Political Party. It is not a consensus by all Parties, but just by one Party and certain individuals like the Kochs, infringing on Americans rights to vote.

I think because it is a National issue, moves it from the state level. I think the National Government has the responsibility to ensure the rights of All Americans to vote equally. If a voter that has a legal right to vote on election day, rights is infringed on by one Party, should have the legal right to sue the Republican Party. There needs to be a push back from the grass roots on up in the other parties, to sanction the Republican Party. They are like the Nazi Party. The action should be against their entire Party as dangerous to American Democracy. How is this different than the Second Amendment and Americans rights to bear arms?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
78. Obama and everyone in his administration is a joke
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jul 2013

don't kid yourself - they're in on this fascist takeover. They arrest pot smokers while pretending this kind of stuff doesn't happen. There is NO WAY they can be this incompetent. They're part of it.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. At the end of Gulf War #1, Saddam set the oil fields on fire ...
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:33 AM
Jul 2013

The GOP sees the writing on the wall. At the national level, basic demographics spell the end for their party.
And they know it.

They see the change coming. Gay rights, reproductive rights, a right to health care. All of these things and more, are going to happen eventually. And they know that while the can slow it down, they can't stop it.

So what they are doing now, in every state and local district they can, is burning the oil wells.

They are trying to make as big a mess as they can, while the can.

Doing so slows things way down.

We'll have to stop them and then clean up their mess, again, before things can really start to improve.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
29. This one particularly galls me:
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:19 AM
Jul 2013

"Prohibit counties from extending poll hours by one hour on Election Day in extraordinary circumstances, such as in response to long lines."

WTF?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
60. So, in other words,
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jul 2013

1,000 people show up to vote and there's only one voting machine and that one's not working too good. Provisional ballot? Nope. Did away with those. EVERY voting citizen in NC needs to get out in the streets!

reflection

(6,286 posts)
62. Hell, I'm getting to the point
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jul 2013

where I'm starting to fantasize about rolling out the guillotine. I mean seriously, to just shut down a polling place because the line is too long? What the hell!

Question: Just because the county is prohibited from extending the hours, surely that wouldn't preclude a federal judge from doing it. Right? Dare I have a little hope?

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
65. I just took
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 03:13 PM
Jul 2013

at North Carolina's State Constitution and see a way around the Republican Legislature. The North Carolina State Constitution has two parts. The second part describes specific rights and duties of the Government, but the first part describes the Preamble and inalienble rights, the same as the U.S. Constutition, which is the Declaration of rights.

In the first part of the State Constitution, it states that North Carolina has no right to secede and is a part of the American Nation. It also abolishes slavery forever. Any clues to where that came from? The first portion of North Carolina's Constitution essentially concedes State's Rights to the Federal Government. If any North Carolina Law violates the U.S. Constitution, that law can't be enforced.

The first part of the North Carolina Constitution also gives the people to abolish their Government. It is not compatible to the second portion. It states that the people have a right to address grievances to the Legislature any time. It also states that every person elgible in the state, should not have any restrictions or treated differently. It states in the U.S. Constitution that voting rights should not be infringed on.

North Carolina does not have an initiative or state wide referendum process but they do have it at the local levels in some cities. That means everyone is not treated equally. It also states that North Carolinians have the right to hold frequent elections.

I see an opening here if the DOJ got involved and people file a class suit against the State of North Carolina. It also states specifically, the right to vote in North Carolina shouldn't be determined by property. An ID card could qualify as personal property, especially if it is paid for.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
80. And a 10-page ballot and NO straight-ticket voting (intended to slow the process down)
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 12:50 AM
Jul 2013

In FL they had a 10-page ballot in some places. The whole idea behind disallowing straight-ticket voting is to slow down voting. They'll probably lengthen the ballot in NC as well. Typically they're two pages (front & back) in NC. Now, they'll probably be 10 pages or more.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
36. True
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jul 2013

Because the same monied interests got there hooks into Snyder and Walker and the repressive Republicans in those states.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
43. That is why I
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jul 2013

think a good case can be made and justified against the entire Republican party, even on the International stage. They remind me of the Nazi Party takeover of Germany. They obstruct judicial nominees and use tactics such as gerrymandering. They are also attempting to rig the National Election the same way. That is enough evidence to put Americans on alert to the dangers of this Party. Instead of trying to win the votes of all Americans, they only appease one group of Americans in this country. They are an extreme rightwing Party just like Hitler's Nazi Party.

jpak

(41,759 posts)
46. Gee - the SCOTUS told us that the South had "changed" and the Voting Rights Act was "outdated"
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 10:49 AM
Jul 2013

Last edited Fri Jul 26, 2013, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Looks like they lied to us...

Old times thar are NOT forgatten.

yup

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
55. I don't see
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jul 2013

it as the SCOTUS. I see it as a rightwing takeover of the SCOTUS by getting people on the bench to overturn past laws. All those Justices were Republicans that voted that way. It was essentially a decision made within the spirit of five Robert Taney's It is not the only laws and rights they are going after. They will go after Abortion Rights and women's rights too. They will go after religious freedom as far as seperation of Church and State. They are our Taliban and Brother Muslimhood.

There are no Democrats or Independent Parties agreeing to the Republican agenda. The Republican Party along racial terms is about 80-90 percent white and mostly a Southern Party, if you look at its makeup. They continue down this regressive path, they will push this country towards another deadly Civil War. It is when people begin to feel the effects of their Policies which takes a while to set in. They are ramroding policies through, that could push North Carolina towards a boiling point. It is just a microcosm of what is happening around the country. Detroit is another sypmton of it. The Zimmerman case and gun violence would be others.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
53. More disgusting anti-American crap from the party of hate.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jul 2013

I wonder if it would change things if thousands of armed liberals surrounded the capital like they did in Bulgaria this week?
Just stood silently, but let none of these kooks out?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
67. I wish there were a Democratic philanthropist
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jul 2013

Like a Buffet, who would go into NC and offer to pay for every low income, minority or otherwise, picture ID that may be now required to vote. Throw it back in their faces. I'd love to see the looks on those faces if this happened...."OMG now what do we do?!!"

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
70. so scotus was wrong...how shocking
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jul 2013

Roberts should be proud. This is what he's wanted since he worked in raygun's administration.

BradBlog

(2,938 posts)
74. Is that a serious question?
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jul 2013

They make it MUCH harder for legal voters to cast their vote in dozens of new restrictions and then make it easier for people with money to BUY elections and candidates and you focus on the buying elections and candidates provision to ask "how is that voter suppression"?

I'm on mobile, so can't see your post count here, but I'll just take a guess and say "Welcome to DU! Please enjoy your time and work here."

Pterodactyl

(1,687 posts)
84. Does not make sense to me. If I can donate more to the candidate of my choice, that gives me MORE...
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:23 PM
Aug 2013

... power, not less.

And thanks for the welcome, pardner!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
81. well at this rate anyone
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 01:07 PM
Jul 2013

who have had their voting rights trampled, if they get in the jury pool somehow should refuse to go.. it's only fair. Been called up on a jury 4-5 times in a decade. never was called before I moved near Waterloo IA. And I always loved going however was called around February - March this year and I'm suffering from severe Depression . Walk outside nobody would ever know it but if you know me it's pretty bad. I was let off the Jury Call. Message from my Psychiatrist and the fact that I wasn't sure if it would cause harm to the process. ie I'm not sure if I'd be fair and impartial because I'm not thinking straight. Should I be prevented from voting. Um no one has that right. Usually not much required to vote. Although I have no intentions of voting for Hillary.

24601

(3,962 posts)
82. I remember voting at 17 because the primary was before my 18th birthday and the general election
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jul 2013

was after I turned 18. Not that 1972 was a close election.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
83. it seems to me
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jul 2013

That the good people of N Carolina can easily defeat these asshole rethugs in november. All they must do is make sure they all vote. Make sure they show up and clean house. Wont it be rich?

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