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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:20 AM Jul 2013

Egypt Prosecutor Orders Detention of Ousted President Over Contact with Hamas

Source: Associated Press

@AP: BREAKING: Egypt prosecutor orders detention of ousted president over contact with Hamas, news agency reports

@AP: MORE: Morsi is being detained over alleged contacts with Hamas to help in his escape from prison in 2011: http://t.co/gsupqkYntz -JM

OUSTED EGYPT PRESIDENT DETAINED OVER HAMAS CONTACT

Jul. 26 4:18 AM EDT

CAIRO (AP) — Egypt's official news agency reports that the state prosecutor has ordered the detention of the ousted president over alleged contacts with Hamas to help in his escape from prison in 2011.

The MENA news agency said Mohammed Morsi has been detained for 15 days for investigation into the charges.

Egypt's military has been holding Morsi in an undisclosed location since deposing him on July 3.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ousted-egypt-president-detained-over-hamas-contact

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Egypt Prosecutor Orders Detention of Ousted President Over Contact with Hamas (Original Post) Hissyspit Jul 2013 OP
That's bound to help the situation out there today dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1
That's a good way to criminalize democracy cpwm17 Jul 2013 #2
This seems an admission he did nothing wrong as president muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #3
Egypt's Brotherhood dismisses charges against deposed president Mursi dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #4
Wow, getting elected is pretty dangerous over there. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #5
Repeat after me: undo the coup. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #6
Wow. They are playing with fire. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #7
I think John2 Jul 2013 #8
Escaping the old dictator's torture prisons is a crime. Okay. Sure. Whatever you say. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #9
They've been working on this for a while. Igel Jul 2013 #10

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
1. That's bound to help the situation out there today
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:39 AM
Jul 2013

Last edited Fri Jul 26, 2013, 05:17 AM - Edit history (2)

Not.

Aside from that given Mubaraks record on torture it hardly surprising those who escaped from prison did so regardless of how they achieved it.


From Feb 2011 : Torture Under Mubarak Regime Fueled Protests, Rights Group Says.

Torture and police abuse under the regime of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak were one of the main causes of the protests that have engulfed the country for more than a week, Human Rights Watch said.

The 95-page report, entitled “Work on Him Until he Confesses: Impunity for Torture in Egypt,” documents dozens of cases of torture and death in custody, the New-York-based organisation said in a report released today.

“The Egyptian government’s foul record on this issue is a huge part of what is still bringing crowds onto the streets today,” Joe Stork, deputy director of the group’s Middle East and North Africa division.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-01/torture-under-mubarak-regime-fueled-protests-rights-group-says.html

28 hours in the dark heart of Egypt's torture machine.

The sickening, rapid click-click-clicking of the electric shock device sounded like an angry rattlesnake as it passed within inches of my face. Then came a scream of agony, followed by a pitiful whimpering from the handcuffed, blindfolded victim as the force of the shock propelled him across the floor.

A hail of vicious punches and kicks rained down on the prone bodies next to me, creating loud thumps. The torturers screamed abuse all around me. Only later were their chilling words translated to me by an Arabic-speaking colleague: "In this hotel, there are only two items on the menu for those who don't behave – electrocution and rape."

Cuffed and blindfolded, like my fellow detainees, I lay transfixed. My palms sweated and my heart raced. I felt myself shaking. Would it be my turn next? Or would my outsider status, conferred by holding a British passport, save me? I suspected – hoped – that it would be the latter and, thankfully, it was. But I could never be sure.

I had "disappeared", along with countless Egyptians, inside the bowels of the Mukhabarat, President Hosni Mubarak's vast security-intelligence apparatus and an organisation headed, until recently, by his vice-president and former intelligence chief, Omar Suleiman, the man trusted to negotiate an "orderly transition" to democratic rule.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/09/egypt-torture-machine-mubarak-security

Where is the USA's man Omar Suleiman these days ?

Feb 2011 : New Egyptian VP Ran Mubarak's Security Team, Oversaw Torture.

The intelligence chief tapped by Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak as his vice president and potential successor aided the U.S. with its rendition program, intelligence experts told ABC News, and oversaw the torture of an Al Qaeda suspect whose information helped justify the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

In the midst of Egypt's protests, Omar Suleiman went on television Monday to say that President Mubarak had ordered him to launch reforms and begin talking to opposition parties. But for the U.S., the CIA, Israel, and Egypt's Islamist opposition, 74-year-old Suleiman, who has been the head of Egyptian intelligence since 1993, represents a continuation of the policies of the old regime.

"Mubarak and Suleiman are the same person," said Emile Nakhleh, a former top Middle East analyst for the CIA. "They are not two different people in terms of ideology and reform."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/egypt-crisis-omar-suleiman-cia-rendition/story?id=12812445

muriel_volestrangler

(101,159 posts)
3. This seems an admission he did nothing wrong as president
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 05:33 AM
Jul 2013

If you can't find a charge about his time as president, then he must have been following the laws, however incompetently or in a direction they didn't like.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. Egypt's Brotherhood dismisses charges against deposed president Mursi
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:03 AM
Jul 2013

(Reuters) - Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood dismissed as "ridiculous" accusations levelled by the authorities on Friday against deposed President Mohamed Mursi that included killing soldiers and conspiring with the Palestinian group Hamas.

"They are not taken seriously at all. We are continuing our protests on the streets. In fact we believe that more people will realise what this regime really represents - a return of the old state of Mubarak, with brute force," Brotherhood spokesman Gehad El-Haddad said.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/07/26/egypt-protests-muslim-brotherhood-hamas-idINDEE96P07620130726

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
8. I think
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jul 2013

the Muslim Brotherhood is correct. I think the problem came when Morsi called Jihad in Syria and the violence that happened in Lebanon from Islamists connected to the Brotherhood. There is violence going on both sides. Ir is even happening in Tunisia now.

I also think that is how the Syrian uprising began against Assad also. They consider the Brother Muslimhood Terrorists and a threat to the state. I'm beginning to understand their complaints now against totalitarian rulers like Assad. Their security forces imprison a lot of people deemed as a threat and they sometimes disappear.

A lot of Human Rights Organizations have intervened in these cases. Most of these Organizations however are Western based and these Governments accuse them of bias. Guantanamo Bay and Israel's abuses are examples. THe U.S. has imprisoned the same people without Trials. Israel's displacement and political assassinations of people they see as a threat to their security is another example. South Korea also imprisons people that has opposing opinions about their conflict with North Korea.

Both Assad and Mubarak co-operated with the Bush administration with the War on Terror when they were against groups like the Muslim Brotherhood or Al Qa eda for convenience. This rendition program was part of that. It alleges the Bush Administration sent prisoners and even kidnapped citizens of Foreign countries, to send them to places like Syria and Egypt for their interrogation techniques. The claim is they did this through a secret court which gives the U.S. Government immunity, on the basis of National Security.

Now I don't agree with this, but what makes the above different than what these regimes are doing on the basis of what they see as their national security?

Igel

(35,197 posts)
10. They've been working on this for a while.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/.premium-1.531526#Scene_1

It's all over the place, but this seemed the longest article I could find in my 2 minutes of searching and reading.
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