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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 05:47 AM Jul 2013

Plague-infected squirrel shuts Los Angeles park

Source: BBC News

Parts of a national forest in California have been evacuated and closed down after a squirrel was found to be infected with the plague.

Los Angeles officials say visitors were ordered to leave the Angeles National Forest as a precaution after the rodent was trapped in a routine check.

They said no people in the area were believed to have been infected with the disease, known as the Black Death.

The plague killed as many as 25 million Europeans during the Middle Ages.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23460709

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Plague-infected squirrel shuts Los Angeles park (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jul 2013 OP
everything old is new again -yersinia pestis rearing it's ugly head leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #1
Last major outbreak of the plague in the U.S. was in L.A. in 1924-25. 37 dead. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #2
The "Black Death" was a specific outburst of plague... Deep13 Jul 2013 #3
Sad that the news outlet reporting this Tien1985 Jul 2013 #4
The L.A. Times has the story BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #6
Because it's not exactly news? Retrograde Jul 2013 #12
EXACTLY, I thought everyone knew that plague is endemic in a lot of California and you are Ecumenist Jul 2013 #26
It's happened before - more rodents Baclava Jul 2013 #5
While this might uncommon for L.A... Javaman Jul 2013 #7
EEK! Squinch Jul 2013 #8
It's coming, we're overdue for a cull ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #9
Bubonic plague is quite treatable, and very preventable Scootaloo Jul 2013 #28
k+r ...nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #10
Bring out yer dead! *clang* Thav Jul 2013 #11
But I'm not dead yet. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #18
If one squirrel was infected, there are bound to be more. n/t RebelOne Jul 2013 #13
The Angeles National Forest is actually in the mountains above L.A. KamaAina Jul 2013 #14
Thousands visit or travel through the San Gabriel's each week. denbot Jul 2013 #15
But not millions KamaAina Jul 2013 #19
I think we have another case in NYC Kennah Jul 2013 #16
A fourth form of the disease KamaAina Jul 2013 #20
A pandemic is too horrible to even contemplate. branford Jul 2013 #29
.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #22
Some believe Black Death may really have been Ebola Kennah Jul 2013 #17
Is this a ''Biblical Plague?'' DeSwiss Jul 2013 #21
Squirrels around here carry the Red Death. Union Scribe Jul 2013 #23
It's endemic among squirrels and other rodents in the Southwest US Hekate Jul 2013 #24
It's obviously because of Politicalboi Jul 2013 #25
How did you get a squirrel as a partner ? dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #27
Politicalboi could be nuts Kennah Jul 2013 #30

Deep13

(39,157 posts)
3. The "Black Death" was a specific outburst of plague...
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:20 AM
Jul 2013

that occurred in the 1340s and 50s. The disease is simply "plague." If it gets in the lymphatic system, it is bubonic plague. If it gets in the lungs, it is pneumonic plague, and if it gets in the blood it is septicemic plague. Without antibiotics, the bubonic variety is usually fatal, while the other varieties always are.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
12. Because it's not exactly news?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jul 2013

plague has been in California - and a lot of the southwest since c. 1900, when there was a major outbreak in San Francisco. After the earthquake of 1906, it escaped across the bay and eventually into the wild rodent population. When I moved here in the 70s I remember seeing signs in local parks warning about potentially infected rodents. I guess people may have forgotten about it since there haven't been any big human cases recently.

It's treatable if caught quickly.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
26. EXACTLY, I thought everyone knew that plague is endemic in a lot of California and you are
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:30 AM
Jul 2013

well advised to stay away from ground squirrels in particular.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
5. It's happened before - more rodents
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:09 AM
Jul 2013

Plague Decimates Prairie Dogs

An outbreak of bubonic plague is turning prairie dog towns into ghost towns on the Fort Belknap Indian Reservation.

Weeks ago, a 500-acre prairie dog town on the reservation was alive with thousands of barking, scurrying rodents. Now, there is hardly any sound or movement.

Environmental officials suspect the area is on the verge of a plague epidemic similar to the one that annihilated prairie dogs on nearly 21,000 acres in Phillips County in the mid-1990s.

Bubonic plague is transmitted by fleas. The bacteria — Yersinia pestis — thrives in prairie dog fleas. Once infected, prairie dogs contract a form of plague and die within days, usually deep within their burrows. Other animals known to carry the disease are deer mice, rats, badgers, coyotes, bobcats and antelope.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/storynew?id=95887&page=1

Javaman

(65,711 posts)
7. While this might uncommon for L.A...
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

stories like this usually pop up from time to time.

Here's an interesting article giving a little bit more insight in the plague and how common or uncommon it is (depending on how you look at it)

El Dorado warns of plague danger, urges avoidance of rodents

Plague is an infectious disease that affects rodents and humans. Introduced into this country in 1900 when it hitchhiked to the United States on rat-infested ships, plague is caused by the Yersinia pestis bacteria.

There were 999 confirmed or probable U.S. plague cases from 1900 to 2010, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Most of the cases have been in the New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado area and in Nevada, Oregon and California.

"Plague is naturally present in many parts of California, including higher elevations of El Dorado County, so we all need to be cautious around animals that can carry it," said Dr. Alicia Paris-Pombo, the county's public health officer.

The California Department of Health Services routinely monitors the rodent population in the state for signs of the plague. Last September and October, three chipmunks tested positive for plague in the South Lake Tahoe area.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/24/5444902/el-dorado-warns-of-plague-danger.html#storylink=cpy

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
9. It's coming, we're overdue for a cull
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jul 2013

.
.
.

Trillions of dollars of nuclear weapons around the globe,

But ya can't stop momma nature -

No way, no how . . . .

We pissed her off

big time . . .

CC

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. Bubonic plague is quite treatable, and very preventable
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:31 AM
Jul 2013

Sort of like leprosy, it was a scary monster in the middle ages that has since been discovered to just be Old Man Higgens in a latex mask. Basic hygiene keeps it at bay, and low-tech antibiotics clear it up easily enough.

Granted it's still lethal if untreated, but it's unlikely ever to reach the pandemic stages of the past... At least until we crash and end up living in manure huts again, I guess. Even then I doubt germ theory will vanish quickly, as it's "common knowledge."

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. The Angeles National Forest is actually in the mountains above L.A.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jul 2013

It's not like there's plague in MacArthur Park or anything.

denbot

(9,950 posts)
15. Thousands visit or travel through the San Gabriel's each week.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jul 2013

Just like Avian flu hopping populations via an airplane, one person infected and untreated could ignite the pestilent equivalent of a Santa Anna brush fire.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
29. A pandemic is too horrible to even contemplate.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 05:45 AM
Jul 2013

There is no cure other than a quick and merciful death.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
21. Is this a ''Biblical Plague?''
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jul 2013
- Or just the California kind? And didn't somebody make a B movie like this? If not, they will now.....

K&R

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
23. Squirrels around here carry the Red Death.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jul 2013

Governor Snyder has already sealed himself and his followers in his castle.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
24. It's endemic among squirrels and other rodents in the Southwest US
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 02:50 AM
Jul 2013

Not limited to desert areas, but more common there, afaik. As diseases go, there's traditionally been only a trickle of cases in less-populated areas, and of course modern medicine can jump right on the cases they see. And of course they warn the public, just as they do with rabies when it starts showing up in wildlife like skunks.

It's a case of information, not panic and mass quarantine. Needless to say, ideas of personal cleanliness and public sanitation were drastically different in the Middle Ages than they are now.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
25. It's obviously because of
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:24 AM
Jul 2013

Gay marriage in Ca. Now I have to check my partner Rocky for the plague.

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