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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 02:06 AM Aug 2013

Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

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Source: Reuters

By John Shiffman and Kristina Cooke
WASHINGTON | Mon Aug 5, 2013 3:25pm EDT

A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.


Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin - not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges.

The undated documents show that federal agents are trained to "recreate" the investigative trail to effectively cover up where the information originated, a practice that some experts say violates a defendant's Constitutional right to a fair trial. If defendants don't know how an investigation began, they cannot know to ask to review potential sources of exculpatory evidence - information that could reveal entrapment, mistakes or biased witnesses.

"I have never heard of anything like this at all," said Nancy Gertner, a Harvard Law School professor who served as a federal judge from 1994 to 2011. Gertner and other legal experts said the program sounds more troubling than recent disclosures that the National Security Agency has been collecting domestic phone records. The NSA effort is geared toward stopping terrorists; the DEA program targets common criminals, primarily drug dealers.

"It is one thing to create special rules for national security," Gertner said. "Ordinary crime is entirely different. It sounds like they are phonying up investigations."



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805



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Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans (Original Post) DeSwiss Aug 2013 OP
Why is this in LBN when it has been posted before? n/t intaglio Aug 2013 #1
Awesome!......NOT! blackspade Aug 2013 #2
Congratulations Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #3
And your point is what exactly? blackspade Aug 2013 #5
Extra points for ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #7
Snort. blackspade Aug 2013 #9
But who stands over those agencies? truedelphi Aug 2013 #4
I'm pretty sure it's a hole we're in..... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #6
Awesome picture! blackspade Aug 2013 #8
Locking, sorry. LBN Dupe. Please continue discussion on LBN link below Tx4obama Aug 2013 #10

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
1. Why is this in LBN when it has been posted before? n/t
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 02:34 AM
Aug 2013

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
2. Awesome!......NOT!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 02:42 AM
Aug 2013

I don't think we are headed down the rabbit hole. We are already at the bottom. digging a deeper one.
I really think that the FBI, DEA, NSA, etc are made up of authoritarians hellbent on remaking this country into a totalitarian paradise for the 1%.

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
3. Congratulations
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:24 AM
Aug 2013

on using all of today's buzzwords in one reply:

rabbit-hole
authoritarians
totalitarian
1%


Well done!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
5. And your point is what exactly?
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:36 AM
Aug 2013

Oh, never mind, there is no point.
It's just a typical deflection technique to stifle conversation on the topic.

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
7. Extra points for ...
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:40 AM
Aug 2013
"typical deflection technique to stifle conversation"

You are on a roll tonight!!!



blackspade

(10,056 posts)
9. Snort.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:45 AM
Aug 2013

I always rock on the progressive side of the issues.

That's just how I roll!

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
4. But who stands over those agencies?
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:30 AM
Aug 2013

Obama appoints the heads of every one of those agencies, doesn't he?

Apparently from a very short list that the Grand Puppet Masters present to him.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. I'm pretty sure it's a hole we're in.....
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:38 AM
Aug 2013

...but I'm not sure it's a rabbit hole.



blackspade

(10,056 posts)
8. Awesome picture!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:41 AM
Aug 2013

Grandma's pissed and she's coming for you!

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
10. Locking, sorry. LBN Dupe. Please continue discussion on LBN link below
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:47 AM
Aug 2013
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