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d_r

(6,907 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:21 PM Aug 2013

Sen. Stacey Campfield pushing 'Merry Christmas' bill

Source: Knoxville News Sentinel

NASHVILLE — Inspired by Texas legislation, state Sen. Stacey Campfield has introduced a “Merry Christmas bill” for Tennessee that he says will assure schoolchildren and their teachers have a legal right to use what the bill calls “traditional greetings” during “winter celebrations.”

“This stops all these silly lawsuits that say you can’t say ‘merry Christmas’ or ‘happy Hanukkah’ or have a Christmas tree,” said Campfield, R-Knoxville, who has pre-filed SB1425 for consideration by the General Assembly in 2014.

While unaware of a specific case where Christmas has become an issue in Tennessee schools, the senator said he knows of people “afraid of lawsuits” and passage of the bill would provide them with reassurance.

“The ACLU is always freaking out about that stuff,” Campfield said.

Read more: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/aug/14/campfield-pushing-merry-christmas-bill/



Stacy Campfield says to teachers "you can't say 'gay,' but you can say 'merry christmas.' just make sure the kids test scores are high enough if they are going to get TANIF."
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Sen. Stacey Campfield pushing 'Merry Christmas' bill (Original Post) d_r Aug 2013 OP
Dear people of Tennessee Happyhippychick Aug 2013 #1
Boy that will create JOBS, I'm so sure. Hubert Flottz Aug 2013 #2
I see a conflict here... brooklynite Aug 2013 #3
... bunnies Aug 2013 #6
DUZY material! mac56 Aug 2013 #7
rotfl d_r Aug 2013 #16
DUzy... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #18
good grief JitterbugPerfume Aug 2013 #4
Ramadan Kareem to Rep. Campfield! Newsjock Aug 2013 #5
Stacey is a girls' name... burnodo Aug 2013 #8
Let everyone say ˇFeliz Navidad! and watch them all freak out! Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #9
How do you say "happy holidays" in Spanish... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #19
Felices fiestas. Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #21
I will remember that. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #22
Do you want to play a game? SCVDem Aug 2013 #10
Let me get this straight meanit Aug 2013 #11
He is definately qualified brer cat Aug 2013 #12
I'm glad they are doing what is the most important thing to do. L0oniX Aug 2013 #13
The whackos at it again....... Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #14
This guy is an all-time asswipe. Look at this. Faygo Kid Aug 2013 #15
Thanks for the link... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #20
“always freaking out about that stuff," All this projection from the right could fill a book ck4829 Aug 2013 #17
good to know that republipukes believe in Santa & Jesus olddots Aug 2013 #23
Gee isn't it a little early... From The Ashes Aug 2013 #24
Yep, time for War on Xmas Committee meeting Bragi Aug 2013 #25
before labor day?? d_r Aug 2013 #26
On the upside, we can fashionably still wear white /nt Bragi Aug 2013 #28
Where are the small government mavens when we need them? rrneck Aug 2013 #27

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
2. Boy that will create JOBS, I'm so sure.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:27 PM
Aug 2013

Freakin' IDIOTS!

I'll bet Santa Clause was one of Stacey Campfield's biggest political donors. He probably talks to the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy too.

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
8. Stacey is a girls' name...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:41 PM
Aug 2013

Are you a GIRL, Stacey?!?

(not actually offering this up as a real insult, meant more for this shallow person's interpretation of various things like '"Merry Christmas" must be protected' by passage of a law that is nonsensical and wastes taxpayer money)

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
19. How do you say "happy holidays" in Spanish...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:16 PM
Aug 2013

that way you piss them off twice. Once for saying holiday, and again for saying it in Spanish.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
21. Felices fiestas.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:30 PM
Aug 2013

But, to be honest, I don't think it is used very often in Spanish speaking countries, but it has been awhile since I have spoken to native speakers. It certainly would chap some hides though to say "Happy Holidays" in Spanish!

meanit

(455 posts)
11. Let me get this straight
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:04 PM
Aug 2013

There has never been a case where someone has had a legal issue with saying "Merry Christmas", "Happy Hanukkah" or having a Christmas tree in Tennessee, but this anus Campfield wants to pass a law anyway to stop all of the lawsuits that aren't happening, because he "knows people" who are worried about the lawsuits that aren't happening....

There was a day when a man like this would have been removed from public office.

My, how far we have fallen.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
14. The whackos at it again.......
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:57 PM
Aug 2013

The only issue that has ever been raised with "Merry Christmas" is that public schools, as an extension of the government, are prohibited from "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". This has been interpreted by the Supreme Court to mean that any overt action by a governmental actor that appears to endorse or promote one religion is akin to making a law respecting an establishment of religion and if not that it prohibits or significantly impacts the free exercise of another religion.

So most school districts, understanding this concern, have encouraged the use of "holiday" such as Happy Holidays, etc. especially since Hannukah, Christmas and Kwanzaa occur in close proximity to one another.

If the schools posted Happy Hannukah, Merry Christmas and Joyous Kwanzaa at the same time that might mollify Jews, Christians and those that celebrate Kwanzaa but what about Muslims, Hindus, atheists, etc.

Christmas has become a secular holiday so there is nothing religious about it anymore.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
23. good to know that republipukes believe in Santa & Jesus
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:02 AM
Aug 2013

they don't believe in science but they believe in ??????

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
25. Yep, time for War on Xmas Committee meeting
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:23 AM
Aug 2013

Our group usually waits till September, but this year we clearly need to get going earlier. I need to make sure my spray paint is working before the first manger goes up.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
27. Where are the small government mavens when we need them?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 11:54 AM
Aug 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_General_Assembly

Legislators are paid a base salary of $19,009 along with a per diem expense of $171 per legislative day.
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