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scooter rider

(80 posts)
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:59 PM Sep 2013

Hillary Clinton supports president on Syria

Source: NBC news

By Andrea Mitchell and Carrie Dann, NBC News

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton supports President Barack Obama’s planned “strong and targeted” response to reported chemical weapons use by Syrian president Bashar Assad, an aide tells NBC News.
“Secretary Clinton supports the president's effort to enlist the Congress in pursuing a strong and targeted response to the Assad regime's horrific use of chemical weapons," said a senior aide to Clinton in her camp’s first response since the president laid out his plan to seek congressional approval for a strike.

Clinton, who left the State Department in February, had been noticeably quiet on the Syrian conflict and had faced increasing calls to weigh in. She is widely considered a top contender for the 2016 Democratic nomination, and – if she runs – the case for her presidency is likely to be built largely on her performance as the nation’s top diplomat.

She drew criticism for tweeting over the weekend about swimmer Diana Nyad’s history-making journey from Cuba to Florida while remaining mum on her assessment of the Obama strategy.

Read more: http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20312394-hillary-clinton-supports-president-on-syria?lite



Wonder why she did this through a spox?
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Hillary Clinton supports president on Syria (Original Post) scooter rider Sep 2013 OP
If she is serious about running, she should stay mum on this. morningfog Sep 2013 #1
I've said for awhile that I don't think she nor Biden will run davidpdx Sep 2013 #20
BECAUSE she's serious about running, TommyCelt Sep 2013 #26
Ha ha. That's pretty nice, considering she was frantic to intervene last year. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #2
She has to show how tough she is. Mysterysouppe Sep 2013 #3
Hill, thanks for reminding me DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #4
+ Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #9
times a zillion roguevalley Sep 2013 #23
Exactly. sendero Sep 2013 #44
Who's a possible nominee customerserviceguy Sep 2013 #46
Grayson or Warren yellowwoodII Sep 2013 #47
Kick for a rational leader. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #5
Here's hoping you get one some day. (n/t) Nihil Sep 2013 #12
Who? DeSwiss Sep 2013 #6
jaysu, but she's awful. delrem Sep 2013 #7
War hawk. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #8
She only has the blood of a million Iraqis dripping from her hands, so what's a few HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #10
HRC supported Bush in 2003 too rpannier Sep 2013 #11
has Warren or Dr. Dean said anything yet ? littlewolf Sep 2013 #13
Dean said he supported the President. Historic NY Sep 2013 #30
Elizabeth Warren also supports the President on Syria....... Little Star Sep 2013 #32
That's a lie. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #33
We will see when the vote time comes. We will see. She certainly didn't come..... Little Star Sep 2013 #34
Yes, we will, Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #35
Well one thing I will say to you is..... Little Star Sep 2013 #36
That's more or less what Hillary said in her statement. Beacool Sep 2013 #40
And pretty much everyone but Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #43
Not getting my primary vote Ocelot Sep 2013 #14
Not Getting My Final Vote Either School Teacher Sep 2013 #15
Couldn't agree more. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #22
She must be hangin' around with KindaSleazy. ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #16
Too much wiggle room in statement pmorlan1 Sep 2013 #17
Well said. nt cstanleytech Sep 2013 #24
She's not currently in office. Beacool Sep 2013 #39
Message hidden by jury decision. L0oniX Sep 2013 #18
Ditto. nt NorthCarolina Sep 2013 #27
Quel surprise Carolina Sep 2013 #19
Sure shocks the fuck out of me! Fuddnik Sep 2013 #21
there's a surprise! lol. next you'll tell me that the sun rises in the east. ellenrr Sep 2013 #25
Really! polichick Sep 2013 #28
Two sides from the Republican coin again durablend Sep 2013 #29
Of course she does! She's DLC/Third-Way Roland99 Sep 2013 #31
That's why she will be a great President. jessie04 Sep 2013 #37
I don't see much here. Beacool Sep 2013 #38
Frankly I would have expected her to say nothing at all at this point scooter rider Sep 2013 #41
I'm out of the country at the moment. Beacool Sep 2013 #42
She's just added a notch against succeeding next time... MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #45
No Surprise yellowwoodII Sep 2013 #48

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. I've said for awhile that I don't think she nor Biden will run
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 08:59 PM
Sep 2013

No one seems to believe me. If we bomb Syria and she supports it, people are going to remember. While see enjoys broad support, I think it could erode given her support to engage in Syria.

Personally I think 2016 will be a entirely new breed of candidates from our side.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. Ha ha. That's pretty nice, considering she was frantic to intervene last year.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 11:17 PM
Sep 2013

Quite a mess left behind her. Edit to add: You can just FEEL the political calculations oozing out of her brain.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
44. Exactly.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:14 PM
Sep 2013

.... we need another Clinton like we need a hole in the head. Their unwavering support for the Military Industrial Petrodollar Complex is well known and whie at the time I thought Bill did a great job in retrospect opening the China trade floodgates, installing NAFTA and repealing Glass-Stegall have not served the masses of Americans very well.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
46. Who's a possible nominee
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:19 AM
Sep 2013

on our side who has stood up in opposition to going to war with Syria?

The only presidential aspirant I've seen taking that view loudly is Rand Paul, unfortunately.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
10. She only has the blood of a million Iraqis dripping from her hands, so what's a few
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:33 AM
Sep 2013

more Syrians to add to the notches on her belt?

rpannier

(24,875 posts)
11. HRC supported Bush in 2003 too
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 05:21 AM
Sep 2013

I'm not surprised and it's one reason I'll be looking at voting for someone else in the primaries in 2016

Historic NY

(39,827 posts)
30. Dean said he supported the President.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:55 AM
Sep 2013
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2013/09/04/howard-dean-thus-far-i-support-obamas-syrian-resolution-n1691369

Former DNC chairman Howard Dean supports President Obama's call for a punitive military strike against Syria.

“Thus far I fully support the president, including his going to Congress,” Dean said in an email to The Hill.

The comments from the standard-bearer of the anti-war left during the 2004 campaign could help Obama gain more support among Democrats for votes next week in the House and Senate on his request.

In the House in particular, Obama is likely to have to count on a strong Democratic vote.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
33. That's a lie.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:18 AM
Sep 2013

Elizabeth Warren praised Obama's decision to go to Congress. She has NOT made a decision as to whether she will support military action.

Here are her words from the article YOU cited:

"I think President Obama is right to seek Congressional approval before taking any military action, and we should engage in a serious debate to determine the appropriate U.S. response to the situation in Syria," Warren said in a statement. "The Assad regime's actions are reprehensible, but it is critical that we recognize the complexity of the conflict on the ground and that we consider the potential for unintended consequences of U.S. intervention, no matter how good our intentions."

That doesn't sound like a rubber stamp to me, unlike your war-hawk hero.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
34. We will see when the vote time comes. We will see. She certainly didn't come.....
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:37 AM
Sep 2013

directly out like Alan Grayson, Rick Nolan and others though, did she?

But to be honest, she is my senator & I adore her. I hope you are right but it sounded a little like straddling the fence to me.

Again, I hope she votes against it. We will see, if she too is a war hawk.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
35. Yes, we will,
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:40 AM
Sep 2013

but for now she has not publically stated as to whether she will support Obama's/Hillary's/Kerry's bloodlust or not.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
36. Well one thing I will say to you is.....
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:55 AM
Sep 2013

If she does vote for it, I hope I never say she has blood lust like you have just said about Obama, Hillary & Kerry.

I am against any war where the USA was not directly attacked.

Yet, I still can understand that some of our Dem's get caught up in making votes for political reasons and anyone of them can fall prey to that depending on the political circumstances for themselves and their ambitions.

We may not like it but that's how things work in Washington. Maybe she'll get lucky & Obama will have enough votes for his war and not need hers, that would get her off the hook.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
43. And pretty much everyone but
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:02 PM
Sep 2013

her blind supporters know that she'll go along with it. Why not? She went along with the IWR. She also seemed to be the only person in the Senate who supposedly did not know that Saddam didn't have WMD's.

Not a biggie. Time will prove this out soon enough.

 

Ocelot

(227 posts)
14. Not getting my primary vote
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:23 PM
Sep 2013

Sorry, Hillary, the world doesn't need another Margaret Thatcher. But I'm sure you'll make a great lobbyist.

 

School Teacher

(71 posts)
15. Not Getting My Final Vote Either
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:27 PM
Sep 2013

Hilary Clinton will not get my primary or my secondary vote in the next election. After seeing this Syria debacle I am finally done
with the "Democratic" Party. She is a warmonger of the first order. This is against women's values which she purports to represent.

 

arewenotdemo

(2,364 posts)
22. Couldn't agree more.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:43 AM
Sep 2013

America should support women's rights and minority rights, yet Obama's actions in the Middle East are clearly opposed to both!

And I WILL NOT vote for Clinton, ever.

Democratic leaders need to understand: Obama is rapidly destroying Party unity with his foreign policy.

But they either don't realize it, or don't care. They're determined to follow him off the cliff, like lemmings.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
17. Too much wiggle room in statement
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sep 2013
“Secretary Clinton supports the president's effort to enlist the Congress in pursuing a strong and targeted response to the Assad regime's horrific use of chemical weapons," said a senior aide to Clinton in her camp’s first response since the president laid out his plan to seek congressional approval for a strike.


Sec. Clinton should be forced to go on record about this. This statement above is not hers. It is what an aide says is her statement. It is also a very ambiguous statement. One could read this statement to mean that Sec. Clinton only supports the President involving Congress. One could also interpret it to mean that she approves going to Congress and attacking Syria. There is too much wiggle room in this statement and it's not even her statement but her aide saying it's hers. She needs to answer: 1. Do you support the President involving Congress on the Syria question. 2. Do you support bombing Syria as the President has proposed? I'd also ask her a third question. 3. If Congress says no should that be the end of it or do you think the President has the authority on his own to bomb Syria?

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
19. Quel surprise
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 08:54 PM
Sep 2013

She callously voted for IWR back in 2002, too.
That's one huge reason why Ms "in it to win it" crashed and burned in 2008. That, and being the Queen DLCer.

Kerry, Obomber and Hillary... geez with Dems like these, why bother anymore

durablend

(9,043 posts)
29. Two sides from the Republican coin again
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:53 AM
Sep 2013

Any chance we'll see an actual Democrat ever run?

(nevermind....don't answer...I already know the answer)

Beacool

(30,509 posts)
38. I don't see much here.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:10 PM
Sep 2013

“Secretary Clinton supports the president's effort to enlist the Congress in pursuing a strong and targeted response to the Assad regime's horrific use of chemical weapons."

Her statement is in support of Obama enlisting Congress. What did you all expect her to say? As Obama's former SOS, she is not going to speak against his foreign policy decisions.

The drama in this place never ends.

 

scooter rider

(80 posts)
41. Frankly I would have expected her to say nothing at all at this point
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:28 PM
Sep 2013

And not a release by some spokesperson that she can walk back later.

Beacool

(30,509 posts)
42. I'm out of the country at the moment.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:39 PM
Sep 2013

But I saw on another site that she was criticized for congratulating Diana Nyad, while staying mute on the subject of Syria. I guess that she can't win. If she doesn't say anything they criticize her, if she speaks she gets bashed anyway.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
45. She's just added a notch against succeeding next time...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:32 PM
Sep 2013

IMO, which I'm sure won't be understood by some, she danced around her conditional believing in George W's lies when she should have known better as a Senator. That's when I started feeling a bit icky...

She doesn't know better now? Is it too much of a gamble to recognize success, and how does one spell, "success"? Somehow, in America, in order to be a "leader", women have to be hawkish. What an utter waste of her talents.

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