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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 09:42 AM Sep 2013

Chelsea Manning Seeks Presidential Pardon

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Source: Associated Press

CHELSEA MANNING SEEKS PRESIDENTIAL PARDON

By DAVID DISHNEAU
— Sep. 4 8:58 AM EDT

HAGERSTOWN, Md. (AP) — Army Pvt. Chelsea Manning is seeking a presidential pardon for leaking reams of classified information that her lawyer says did not merit protection.

The Pvt. Manning Support Network released documents Wednesday that defense attorney David Coombs filed a day earlier with the U.S. Justice Department and the Department of the Army.

Manning, previously known as Bradley Manning, has declared her desire to live as a woman while serving a 35-year prison sentence at Fort Leavenworth, Kan.

In her petition for pardon and commutation of sentence, Manning writes: "The decisions I made in 2010 were made out of a concern for my country and the world that we live in."

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/chelsea-manning-seeks-presidential-pardon

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Zorro

(15,749 posts)
1. Ain't gonna happen
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 09:50 AM
Sep 2013
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
2. Yep, she's more likely to be waterboarded than pardoned. nt
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 09:56 AM
Sep 2013

edited to correct gender identity.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
3. This was posted yesterday in LBN
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 10:12 AM
Sep 2013

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
4. I doubt it would happen
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 10:17 AM
Sep 2013

Still, the way I feel about these things is that if they give the pardon conditionally with a gag order Chelsea would disappear from the news cycle pretty quickly.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. Cheney will be pardoned, but not Pfc Manning. nm
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 10:57 AM
Sep 2013

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
7. A Scapegoat for our sins.. well said.. >
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:14 AM
Sep 2013
Enter Pfc. Chelsea Manning. In the young Oklahoman we finally have a scapegoat for two failed wars against whom Republicans and the deeply compromised Democrats can unite in vindictive harmony
Meanwhile Cheney's leaks go unpunished.



http://www.thenation.com/article/175855/chelsea-manning-we-finally-have-scapegoat-iraq-war#axzz2dw9DJdxu

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
6. Good luck to her, but I can't see it happening... nt
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:10 AM
Sep 2013

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
8. There is a Pardon Manning petition on the WH "We the People "
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:21 AM
Sep 2013

petition site. In two weeks , they have gained 77,000 plus signatures. If we get another 22,500 names in two weeks, the White House by policy will be obligated to respond .. I signed. Can't but help.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-united-states%E2%80%99-human-rights-record-and-grant-clemency-pvt-bradley-manning/L7zHZv4r

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
9. Chelsea does not appear to understand that in order to be granted a pardon
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:25 AM
Sep 2013

She would have to have shown "her concern for her country and the world she lives in" by doing humanitarian work that merits such respect like "humanitarian bombing" or otherwise killing or torturing to show compassion and concern.

Those actions gain you respect and a reprieve from the rule of law! Bush was a humanitarian bomber and torturer and is serving no time at all for his international war crimes (usually considered more serious than the crime of leaking the embarrassing crimes of others).

Compassionate torture and patriotic sadism got CIA torture specialists (who decided their job was to commit crimes we hung Japanese for) reassurances that none of them would ever face prosecution for their crimes (an above the law status delivered personalty by the newly elected President Obama on his first visit to the CIA in '09.)

Investment bankers and other confidence men looted the entire economy while others stole thousands upon thousands of homes with a fake signing scam and because it brought us humanitarian austerity and nearly doubled the wealth of the elite while most citizens were relieved of the burden of property and the shackles of any lower class prosperity they were rightfully rewarded and continue to be rewarded rather than imprisoned for their "proper" humanitarian crimes.

Chelsea Manning just does not understand that truly evil crimes like uncovering humanitarian killings can never be forgiven in this country that is obviously a country of laws and not men. The men above the law understand this, it's time she grew up and killed someone like a true humanitarian if she wants to join us in our righteous endeavors and earn a proper pardon like the heroes listed above!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
10. Since the big concern lately seems to be "Sending a message to those who cross a red line"
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:34 AM
Sep 2013

I can't imagine President Obama will pardon someone he considers to have crossed a red line.

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