Breaking: House Approves One-Year 'Obamacare' Delay in Spending Bill

[Hissyspit]

Source: Reuters

@CBSNews: BREAKING: House votes to avert government shutdown and delay Obamacare a year.

@AP: Ignoring veto threat, House votes to avert government shutdown and delay Obamacare a year: http://t.co/qyTfsrbBPZ -BW

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House approves one-year 'Obamacare' delay in spending bill

WASHINGTON | Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:26am EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House of Representatives on Sunday, ignoring a White House veto threat, approved a one-year delay in funding major provisions of President Barack Obama's landmark healthcare law as part of a government funding bill.

Republicans attached the amendment to a bill that is needed to keep federal agencies operating beyond September 30 when a new fiscal year begins.

The move brought the U.S. government closer to shutting down on Tuesday amid deep divisions between Republicans and Democrats.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE98S01J20130929

[gopiscrap]

1. Obama would never sign that I hope

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

4. Nope, he ain't. And he can't. Obamacare is already funded. Open enrollment is October 1. Period!

This is a fucking political game for them. That's why they're on the House floor drinking and celebrating. They know the government will shut down. Assholes!!!!

[gopiscrap]

5. that's what I thought

[Samantha]

2. So the Republicans want to delay this program past the 2014 election?

How convenient.

Sam

[Bolo Boffin]

8. Not past. The debate would start up again right before the election.

And no year-long period for folks to see just what the ACA is all about.

[Samantha]

22. Okay, so long enough there would be no time for the majority of people to realize

before they next vote just how much they benefit from this program the Dems gave them....

Sam

[Bolo Boffin]

23. Exactly. n/t

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

11. Yes because they think they can retain the House, take the Senate, then take the presidency

...and then repeal Obamacare. So if they can delay Obamcare...

You know the rest!! Assholes!!!!!!!

And Manchin is too fucking stupid to see what they're up to.

[Samantha]

25. And there is that clause in the ACA everyone who registers for insurance is guaranteed the right

to register to vote -- which totally nullifies all of that work Republican governors have undertaken to suppress the vote since a Federal law would take precedence. Makes it a bit more difficult to take the Senate and the Presidency, doesn't it -- and I do mean take....

Sam

[ffr]

3. Why don't they just demand that Obama resign?

Makes about as much sense. Is this news?

[onehandle]

6. NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNope! nt

[question everything]

10. My sentiments exactly (nt)

[tofuandbeer]

7. These guys are shere selfish evil. It's incredible they can garner enough votes to get into office.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

15. THEY DIDN'T!! Democrats got 1 million MORE votes than they did. Redistricting helped them

get elected.

But again, I don't care what anyone says, I blame US! Yes, that's right! I blame Democrats. We allowed them to get into power in 2010. This is our fault. Had we come out in enough numbers in 2010 we wouldn't be in this place. They control the state legislatures. State legislatures control the redistricting process. The redistricting process allowed them to redraw the district lines, helping them win more seats in the House even though the other part got more votes.

[Andy823]

21. I totally agree with you

2010 could have been different if people had not stayed home and not voted in order to "teach the president" a lesson. The same crap is going on now with the right trying to divide the left in order to get the same scenario to play out in 2014. We can prevent another 2010 by getting out and voting and not playing into the right wings plans again. Not voting in 2014 should not be an opinion, it should be a priority if we want to get rid of these teapublican morons.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

24. It is absolutely critical that we unite. We MUST unite now. I understand that the anger. Change

didn't happen fast enough. We didn't get everything we wanted in the time that we wanted. I get it. But we simply cannot allow these asshole traitors to destroy this country. We Democrats must ban together now. After tonight, I am fully determined to put my differences aside with my Democratic Party brothers and sisters that I've had disagreements with, make amends, and start building bridges. I really believe that if we do not get our act together as a party, this country will be doomed. We simply have no choice.

[Andy823]

26. Exactly!

I couldn't have said it better myself, thanks!

[cthulu2016]

35. Who are you speaking to or about?

The only threat to Democratic unity I have seen is from the center-right. (Joe Manchin, for instance.)

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

56. All of us!! From the discord on this board and beyond. From those who've I offend

and who've offended me. We need to get beyond that.

Fuck Joe Manchin. He's misguided.

[Pab Sungenis]

54. "We must unite."

The problem is that the people dividing us aren't necessarily doing it from the other party.

Here in the 1st District of NJ we have three of the eight votes that are blocking marriage equality from taking place. All three of them are Democrats, and the other Democrats on the ticket with them (except for Barbara Buono at the top) all support their obstruction.

What good would my voting for these "Democrats" do? It would reward them for their legislative gay-bashing, and ensure that marriage will continue to be denied me until the courts have their final say a couple of years from now. Worse, it would make them think they have a mandate for this sort of thing.

We have no hope if we keep electing Democrats who vote like Republicans. My energy would be wasted this year if I worked and campaigned for this lot; it would be better spent organizing progressives so we can oust "Democrats" like these at the next primary and take our party back.

[Pab Sungenis]

53. Democrats didn't come out in as large numbers in 2010

because the Obama Administration (and Rahm Emanuel in particular) alienated the progressive base of the party by governing from the right. They pissed off the LGBT contingent, the anti-war contingent, the environmental contingent, and most of the other groups that helped them get elected. So those alienated groups defected or stayed home.

The LGBT vote shifted 15 percent from the Democrats to the Republicans in 2010. If Obama had pushed DADT and ENDA in his first year, we would not have lost the House in 2010.

So who's really to blame for where we are now?

[ZRT2209]

9. "House votes to CAUSE govt shutdown" - there, fixed it for you, AP

[AllyCat]

40. That would be an accurate and informative headline

And we can't have that, now, can we?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

57. Fix it again...

"House Republicans vote to cause government shutdown"

[pinboy3niner]

12. 2 Dems voted yes with GOP (Matheson, McIntyre); 2 Republicans voted against (Gibson, Hanna)

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll498.xml

[uppityperson]

13. k&r to get on greatest page. Good grief.

[Voice for Peace]

14. I hope there is somebody secretly filming an inside exposé of all the creeps and idiots

:hope:

[Mr.Bill]

16. This won't even get through the Senate. n/t

[DeSwiss]

17. K&R

[center]House Republicans
[/center]

[Old Navy]

18. Breaking news: The House Republican are a bunch of fucking baboons

and need to be detained for terrorism.

[LaydeeBug]

19. so what happens now? nt

[DesertRat]

20. Screw that!

[Skittles]

27. I wish politicians would put this much effort into avoiding sensless wars

[KansDem]

45. You took the words right out of my mouth!

$1.5 trillion for a war based on lies? No problem! A million people dead? No problem! Let's get it on!!!

Affordable health care for all? Oooo....oooo...No way!

But then, we have to do something while being "stuck" here making only $172,000 a year*

There isn't a toilet big enough to flush these Gang Of Pturds down...
________
*[font size="1"]With the very best health care government money can buy[font size="2"]

[cosmicone]

28. This is not a bad thing.

I can see the blood oozing from the gaping hole of GOP's foot after they pulled the trigger.

The last shutdown didn't fare well for the GOP and this one will be even worse because the demographics have changed. Perhaps the wall streeters who are going to feel the pain will pull the plug on funding the GOP and the lack of cash will hurt.

[inch4progress]

29. Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Still, the message of HATRED the GOP is sending to us with this vote SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES!

[Cha]

30. From your keyboard to the Lucky Stars in

the Universe.

[Doctor_J]

58. Only if the Dems stand firm

if the president and the Senate give in to this extortion kiss 2014 good-bye

[skying05]

31. will he sign the bill?

Hope not

[Gore1FL]

34. It won't get to his desk like that. n/t

[toddwv]

61. Here's hoping.

The Senate Dems said they won't pass anything that isn't clean and this is definitely dirty.

The House also passed a separate clean funding bill to keep defense spending up and running. The Senate should block that as well because that's probably where most of the heat will originate towards the Republicans.

[Hekate]

39. Never

[wundermaus]

32. The politicians entertaining us are merely puppets...

Look deeper and you will see the faces (corporations) hidden behind the fabrications and distractions...
It's all an act.
Keep your eye on the basic human rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

[dem in texas]

33. Democrats - Stand your Ground

This has to be fought out to the bitter end, if Obama caves like he did on debt limit, then this happen over and over again. This is not how a Democracy operates.

[avaistheone1]

36. k&r

[blkmusclmachine]

37. .

.

[SunSeeker]

38. The Republicans approved letting 45,000 Americans die.

That is how many Americans die each year for lack of health coverage.

Not only did the Republicans approve it, but they will shut down government unless they get to kill those 45,000 Americans.

[DallasNE]

41. The House Just Voted To Increase The Size Of The Deficit By $106 Billion

Because this would cause many of the benefits to not be attained while the startup costs are being born too. The $106 billion is the CBO estimate of the decrease in the deficit for the full implementation of the Affordable Care Act over the next 10 years. The Senate bill sent back to the House would fund the government until November 15th so the House is attaching amendments that affect the entire fiscal year to a bill that expires 6 weeks from now? Now if we are seeing this kind of wrangling over 6 weeks of spending what kind of wrangling are we going to see for the other 46 weeks of spending -- do we go through this another 7 times?

To make matter worse, I have no idea what is meant when they say "delay in funding major provisions". Carrying my 24 year old daughter on my policy is a major provision to me. Others, having coverage for pre-existing conditions would be a major provision and since my daughter also has a pre-existing condition so do I. Still others are welcoming the removal of life-time caps as a major provision. So, what exactly is delayed and what are the insurance companies saying about all of the start-up costs being paid out of pocket only to find that the in stream of revenue they were counting on is delayed a year and what will that do for the value of those insurance company stocks. One presumes contracts have been signed and things like that so what are they doing about these broken contracts. Outwardly, it looks like a delay would cause problems far more massive than the few glitches that always occur with the roll out of something new and big. Remember Y2K where some feared massive computer failures but it turned out that the glitches were only minor. At this juncture far more problems will be caused by delay than problems avoided by delay -- that I can assure you.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

42. GOP think the Democrats will be blamed for shutdown when the Senate & Obama reject this. nt

[durablend]

48. And they'd be right!

They'll make SURE the MSN repeats it (true or not)

[Volaris]

49. Then they aren't giving "the independent Center"

enough credit. Even people who don't usually pay attention or care what our Government does will know who they should blame for this.
This is the 3rd? time in 2 years they have threatened the country with economic Armageddon?
And it isn't just those in the center. There will be a TON of "republicans" who will think this is a FANTASTIC idea, until they stop getting their goodies from Uncle Sam/have to feel the pain of this themselves/realize how integral the Fed Govt actually IS to the daily operation of the Country.

Yeah, if this goes on even until the end of the year, they will be so fucked by next November they can kiss the House goodbye. If they actually are crazy enough to default on the debt, the GOP won't win another Presidential election until 2050.

Rove ginned up enough "support" for the GOP, that he might actually GET his Permanent Majority.
But it will be a DEMOCRATIC Majority.

[Beartracks]

43. "We will hurt millions of Americans if you don't let us hurt millions of Americans!!"

Republicans are dumb as dirt.

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[Beartracks]

44. If/when it happens, make sure to call it "the Republican government shutdown." Or maybe...

... "the Republican self-governance shutdown"....?

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[Volaris]

50. "the Tea Party Self-Reliance Economic Adjustment"

While I would never hope for such a thing, watching these fools actually try and survive in their own vaunted "State of Nature" WOULD be funny as hell. Problem is, the rest of us have to suffer right along with them.

[hue]

46. No words can express my disdain/repulsion for those Re/Teapukes!!!

[watoos]

47. As we speak Eric Cantor

is shorting US Treasuries, betting against the US government. This isn't treason, but it sure looks like sedition.

[chelsea0011]

51. another clown bill

[ChairmanAgnostic]

52. Shouldn't the headline be "Breaking Bad?"

[Botany]

55. They spend their time passing bills that have no chance to become laws but ...

... they talk about government debt and waste. This bill has no chance in the senate
and would be vetoed by the POTUS. They lost the election for President, lost seats in
the senate, and they would have lost the House too if not for gerrymandering and yet they
think they get to run the government?

These are economic terrorists .... end of story.

[Thor_MN]

59. House GOP: 43rd verse, same as the first....

Idiots.

[cristianmarie533]

60. The GOP are really making asses of themselves.

But what's new, honestly. It baffles me that these greedy obstructionist a-holes can still garner support from so many people. I really hope they get their butts thrown out in the next election. It would be one less headache Obama would need to deal with.