GOP Rep: Dems Have No Proof A Clean Spending Bill Would Pass
Source: TPM
Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID) on Monday said Democrats have no evidence that a no-strings-attached spending bill would pass the House.
CNN's Anderson Cooper pressed Labrador to explain why a so-called "clean" continuing resolution to fund the government shouldn't immediately be brought to a vote.
"You know, we could bring it to a vote and it would lose," Labrador said on "AC360." "And this is a beautiful talking point that the Democrats have, because it is something they have no evidence that there is anybody willing to vote for this bill."
Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gop-rep-dems-have-no-proof-a-clean-spending-bill-would-pass
Ok Raul, I'll call your bluff. Put it up to a vote and let the chips fall where they may. You can vote it down and dance on your vote singing Hallelujah. We'd all love to watch that.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Botany
(70,601 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)some of them won't do it knowing it is going to show up in a campaign ad at some point next to the soldiers families who aren't getting their death benefits. It would pass, the tp live in a different universe than the rest of us, Planet Fox.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)202-225-6611 and Thanked him for Agreeing with Dems---He's correct-Dems don't have proof a clean cr could pass which is Exactly Why we are asking for the Damned Vote. The ball is Still in their court-It is Their job to Prove the Votes don't exist based upon their own "confirming" statements.
God-these people are stupid.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Maybe a few of these outside of the Capitol building?
Brigid
(17,621 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Proving by trying?
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)i went to his website to find some info on his district...opps! the government website is down because of his vote.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)That's what I would say to the douchebag.
Put your money where your mouth is, Congressman.
Zorro
(15,749 posts)If they are voted down, the assholes will be on record for wrecking the government and economy.
If they are approved, they'll look like the assholes they are for delaying the vote and creating all the political drama and economic trauma.
This is now all about their "ego". They are in a corner they don't know how to get out of. Instead of worrying about what the people "really" want, they worry about themselves looking like total idiots for causing this mess. They just don't care that people are being hurt by their lack of doing the right thing, and putting their own interests ahead of this country.
The longer they keep this going the more they will lose, they are just to damned stubborn to admit it.
apnu
(8,759 posts)That's why they need to get "something" from Democrats before they cave. We, on the other hand, have all the leverage and no motivation to give them anything. That might be true if the nation was blaming Democrats over this, but they aren't. Regardless of who did what in this situation, what the GOP didn't think about was the "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" thoughts of the electorate. After two shutdowns in 95 and 96, plus the completely fabricated "crisis" last year, and the utter failure of the Super Committee, they have no credibility on economic issues for a generation or two.
America forgets pretty easily, unless its a colossal screw up. Shutting down the government and brinkmanship with the nation's credit are colossal screw ups.
Buddha_of_Wisdom
(373 posts)See also: The rise and the fall of the Third Reich.
apnu
(8,759 posts)That's true of any political philosophy in any kind of representative government. The German Worker's Party was voted to power. The people's representatives also voted for the Third Reich, basically.
But back to America, until the electorate is convinced to throw these bums out, they will remain and they will continue to push for insanity. This always happens when there's low voter turnout at the polls. Why do you think all the red states are into purging voting rolls and enacting voter ID laws? To suppress turnout so they can keep their wackos in office.
Buddha_of_Wisdom
(373 posts)And no future lobbyist jobs for them either.....
Big business is not liking the shutdown either. It's holding up the dollars.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)call for a vote on it and see what happens.
earthside
(6,960 posts)They have really worked themselves into a terrible political hole.
If a clean CR is brought up for a vote and it passes it exposes the House Repuglicans as solely responsible for the gov't shutdown. The question will be, of course, why didn't Boner do let this vote happen eight days ago.
But at least the shutdown would be over; for the TeaPuglicans that will also mean considerable pressure to allow a clean debt ceiling vote. From their point of view that would mean a total political rout ... and I don't see how they can do that.
If it fails it will be on a party-line vote and they will then have complete ownership of the shutdown, especially from that moment onwards.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)I think it's really got to come to a symbolic call-their-bluff act.
ht to a DUer who suggested this idea.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)the only way to prove who is right is to have that vote. If the PUKES don't have the votes then they should have nothing to fear from it, but we all know that #1 they are afraid of going on any sort of record with a vote, and 2. They are actually afraid they have the votes to pass it and their leadership just doesn't want it to.
graegoyle
(532 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)These guys really don't like the idea of a falsifiable claim, do they?
We can test your hypothesis, you know?
Dumbshit.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)fucking cowards!!
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)and then not letting the police take a look.
"Please turn out your pockets, sir."
"No, you have no proof!"
"Sir, I need you to turn out your pockets."
"NO PROOF!"
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)VOTE
JCMach1
(27,575 posts)oh wait, I forgot... THEY ARE NOT A REALITY BASED PARTY
Veilex
(1,555 posts)Rep. Raul Labrador has no proof that a clean CR wouldn't pass.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)but they kept voting on it anyway.
Where has their faith gone?
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)to have the Democrats if the true feelings were to be announced most of the reasonable Congress would vote for a clean CR. Cruz is setting himself up as a dictator, he is not interested in governing except for everyone to do what he wants. They should ditch him.
Southside
(338 posts)Why I listen for a few minutes is crazy, why I read republican blogs is crazy, but they all have the same talking points in lock step. There is no proof. This is Obama's shutdown. No one wants Obamacare.
So take a vote and let us know where you stand. Prove you are the party of NO once again
sakabatou
(42,180 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Send a clean bill to the floor for a vote!
benld74
(9,911 posts)Botany
(70,601 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)And let's SEE who is right.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)What's the point of NOT bringing it to the floor? If it doesn't pass, then it doesn't pass, and we move on to the next way to deal with it. And the Democratic "talking point" goes away, much to the happiness of the Repubs. This seems like the same type of issue as the ACA: Republicans don't want to try it, because it might work which will be bad for their talking points. Likewise, a vote might pass, which would be bad for their talking points.
The U.S. is now ungovernable because what the American people want is not what the GOP wants, and the GOP has just enough levers to make a big middle finger. In other words, reality doesn't match what they want it to be.
Uncle Joe
(58,448 posts)Thanks for the thread, apnu.