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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:21 PM Nov 2013

Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google

Source: ars technica

Canada-based telecom Nortel went bankrupt in 2009 and sold its biggest asset—a portfolio of more than 6,000 patents covering 4G wireless innovations and a range of technologies—at an auction in 2011.

Google bid for the patents, but it didn't get them. Instead, the patents went to a group of competitors—Microsoft, Apple, RIM, Ericsson, and Sony—operating under the name "Rockstar Bidco." The companies together bid the shocking sum of $4.5 billion.

Patent insiders knew that the Nortel portfolio was the patent equivalent of a nuclear stockpile: dangerous in the wrong hands, and a bit scary even if held by a "responsible" party.

This afternoon, that stockpile was finally used for what pretty much everyone suspected it would be used for—launching an all-out patent attack on Google and Android. The smartphone patent wars have been underway for a few years now, and the eight lawsuits filed in federal court today by Rockstar Consortium mean that the conflict just hit DEFCON 1.

Read more: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/patent-war-goes-nuclear-microsoft-apple-owned-rockstar-sues-google/#oo

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Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google (Original Post) MindMover Nov 2013 OP
Maybe Google can counter sue for MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #1
Patent Wars... CSStrowbridge Nov 2013 #2
There was a joke going around the high-tech community a bunch of years ago GliderGuider Nov 2013 #3
Yes, the entire patent process is out of hand groundloop Nov 2013 #5
there are some legitimate lawsuits wilt the stilt Nov 2013 #6
Oh, no doubt groundloop Nov 2013 #8
That's what you're supposed to be able to patent jmowreader Nov 2013 #7
most lawsuits are between companies wilt the stilt Nov 2013 #4
Time to pay, Google. Time to pay. onehandle Nov 2013 #9
This is going to get extraordinarily ugly and we're all going to get shafted. sir pball Nov 2013 #10
Exactly .... NT MindMover Nov 2013 #11
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
1. Maybe Google can counter sue for
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:45 PM
Nov 2013

299 792 458.00 Seems they had a good joke on bidding and also declining to join the consortium in the first place. But hey Google is always picked on so give them the patents ok.

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
2. Patent Wars...
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:50 PM
Nov 2013

Patent wars need to end. You shouldn't be able to patent an idea, only the unique implementation of that idea.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. There was a joke going around the high-tech community a bunch of years ago
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:57 PM
Nov 2013

That Microsoft had trademarked the numbers 0 and 1...

groundloop

(13,845 posts)
5. Yes, the entire patent process is out of hand
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:30 PM
Nov 2013

And you're absolutely correct that an idea should be proven to work before a patent is issued. I've been involved in the patent process at my place of employment and it's very disheartening anymore. Groups of lawyers and technical people sit in a meeting scheming up ways to patent this or that just to keep other companies from implementing a technology. It's no longer about protecting inventors, but rather corporations gaining leverage in the marketplace. Instead of the patent process increasing innovation it's having the opposite effect.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
6. there are some legitimate lawsuits
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 05:15 PM
Nov 2013

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I work with a company and they have invented some really great devices and they are very concerned that their ideas are being stolen. theft does happen.

groundloop

(13,845 posts)
8. Oh, no doubt
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 08:13 PM
Nov 2013

We have some very innovative patents as well, and in fact I just helped uncover a possible case of infringement this week (I suspect it will end up with the other company licensing the technology from us).

My beef is that lawyers and bean-counters are often gaming the system simply to stifle innovation.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
7. That's what you're supposed to be able to patent
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 05:45 PM
Nov 2013

...but in this day and age, the shortage of patent examiners who know what the hell they're looking at has led to "idea patents."

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
4. most lawsuits are between companies
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nov 2013

and whenever you hear tort reform it's a bad joke on the average person tort reform means average people can't sue.This is going to be a huge lawsuit.

sir pball

(5,340 posts)
10. This is going to get extraordinarily ugly and we're all going to get shafted.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:48 PM
Nov 2013

Google bought Motorola for their massive patent chest, and the other defendants, Samsung in particular, are no slouches either. It's going to be the mother of all patent wars that's going to end with a bunch of expensive cross-licensing (make no mistake, this isn't about "patent infringement", it's about the 19% of other smartphone OS vendors wanting a piece of the 81% Android pie) with the costs passed on to consumers.

And of course if it really goes full-on MAD, Samsung and LG can go straight-up Doctor Strangelove doomsday-device...nice A7 chips and Retina displays ya got there Apple, be a real shame if something happened to them.

Duck and cover!

(disclaimers - typed on a MacBook Pro that's charging an Android phone)

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