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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:24 AM Nov 2013

Kremlin Denies Snowden Is Breaking Terms of Russian Asylum.

Source: Ria Novosti

MOSCOW, November 2 (RIA Novosti) – Fugitive US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden will not be permitted to break the conditions of his asylum status in Russia by harming the US, a Russian newspaper quoted President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman as saying Saturday.

The Kommersant daily quoted a source in the US White House as saying that Snowden’s activities in Moscow were clearly harming US national interests, but cited Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov as rejecting the allegation in an article published Saturday.

Putin said in July that the former US National Security Agency contractor, who went on the run after leaking details of top-secret US surveillance programs to the media, would only be allowed to stay in Russia if he stopped “his work aimed at harming our US partners.” Snowden was granted asylum in Russia in August after spending more than a month in the transit zone of a Moscow airport, and now lives at an undisclosed location in Russia.

This week, Snowden was back in the news after he met with German lawmaker Hans-Christian Ströbele in Moscow who said the former CIA employee had offered to testify to German lawmakers about information leaked by him about the US spying on Germany, including claims that the NSA had tapped the mobile phone of German Chancellor Angela Merkel for more than 10 years.

The White House believes Snowden’s latest activities violate Putin’s condition, Kommersant said.

Read more: http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131102/184487139/Kremlin-Denies-Snowden-Is-Breaking-Terms-of-Russian-Asylum.html

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Kremlin Denies Snowden Is Breaking Terms of Russian Asylum. (Original Post) dipsydoodle Nov 2013 OP
The question needs to be answered, "Whose National Interest?" RC Nov 2013 #1
Will he testify in Germany ? jakeXT Nov 2013 #2
Which means: (realpolitik translation) Demeter Nov 2013 #3
That is very like internet discussion, is it not? nt bemildred Nov 2013 #5
It all went down in Hong Kong. bemildred Nov 2013 #4
It has been a fiasco from Minute 1 second 5 Demeter Nov 2013 #7
I'm waiting for the conspiracy and sabotage theories, won't be long now. bemildred Nov 2013 #9
As long as he doesn't talk Turbineguy Nov 2013 #6
The Taliban is more into human rights than the President? nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #11
My, my... SoapBox Nov 2013 #8
I doubt the most ignorant, xenophobic poster at FreeRepublic could have said it better. last1standing Nov 2013 #10
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
1. The question needs to be answered, "Whose National Interest?"
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:35 AM
Nov 2013

The national interest of the rich and powerful, or the national interest of the citizens of this country?

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
2. Will he testify in Germany ?
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:43 AM
Nov 2013

Since the U.S. and Germany have an extradition treaty in place, Menon said, it would be the German legal system, not its parliament, which would control Snowden's fate,

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/11/01/snowden-germany-nsa-spying-merkel-cell-phone/3348871/

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. Which means: (realpolitik translation)
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:48 AM
Nov 2013

"We've got Obama and his cronies by the balls, and we are going to squeeze in 5..4...3..."
and by God, it is well-deserved and about time. Welcome to Looking Glass Diplomacy: US/USSR/Russia


...

'It's very provoking,' Humpty Dumpty said after a long silence, looking away from Alice as he spoke, 'to be called an egg — very!'

'I said you looked like an egg, Sir,' Alice gently explained. 'And some eggs are very pretty, you know,' she added, hoping to turn her remark into a sort of compliment.

'Some people,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking away from her as usual, 'have no more sense than a baby!'

Alice didn't know what to say to this: it wasn't at all like conversation, she thought, as he never said anything to her; in fact, his last remark was evidently addressed to a tree — so she stood and softly repeated to herself:

'Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall:
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the King's horses and all the King's men
Couldn't put Humpty Dumpty in his place again.'

'That last line is much too long for the poetry,' she added, almost out loud, forgetting that Humpty Dumpty would hear her.

'Don't stand chattering to yourself like that,' Humpty Dumpty said, looking at her for the first time, 'but tell me your name and your business.'

'My name is Alice, but —'

'It's a stupid name enough!' Humpty Dumpty interrupted impatiently. 'What does it mean?'

'Must a name mean something?' Alice asked doubtfully.

'Of course it must,' Humpty Dumpty said with a short laugh: 'my name means the shape I am — and a good handsome shape it is, too. With a name like yours, you might be any shape, almost.'

'Why do you sit out here all alone?' said Alice, not wishing to begin an argument.

'Why, because there's nobody with me!' cried Humpty Dumpty. 'Did you think I didn't know the answer to that? Ask another.'

'Don't you think you'd be safer down on the ground?' Alice went on, not with any idea of making another riddle, but simply in her good-natured anxiety for the queer creature. 'That wall is so very narrow!'

'What tremendously easy riddles you ask!' Humpty Dumpty growled out. 'Of course I don't think so! Why, if ever I did fall off — which there's no chance of — but if I did —' Here he pursed up his lips, and looked so solemn and grand that Alice could hardly help laughing. 'If I did fall,' he went on, 'the King has promised me — ah, you may turn pale, if you like! You didn't think I was going to say that, did you? The King has promised me — with his very own mouth — to — to —'

'To send all his horses and all his men,' Alice interrupted, rather unwisely.

'Now I declare that's too bad!' Humpty Dumpty cried, breaking into a sudden passion. 'You've been listening at doors — and behind trees — and down chimneys — or you couldn't have known it!'

'I haven't indeed!' Alice said very gently. 'It's in a book.'

'Ah, well! They may write such things in a book,' Humpty Dumpty said in a calmer tone. 'That's what you call a History of England, that is. Now, take a good look at me! I'm one that has spoken to a King, Iam: mayhap you'll never see such another: and, to show you I'm not proud, you may shake hands with me!' And he grinned almost from ear to ear, as he leant forwards (and as nearly as possible fell off the wall in doing so) and offered Alice his hand. She watched him a little anxiously as she took it. 'If he smiled much more the ends of his mouth might meet behind,' she thought: 'And then I don't know what would happen to his head! I'm afraid it would come off!'

'Yes, all his horses and all his men,' Humpty Dumpty went on. 'They'd pick me up again in a minute, they would! However, this conversation is going on a little too fast: let's go back to the last remark but one.'

'I'm afraid I can't quite remember it,' Alice said, very politely.

'In that case we start afresh,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'and it's my turn to choose a subject —' ('He talks about it just as if it was a game!' thought Alice.) 'So here's a question for you. How old did you say you were?'

Alice made a short calculation, and said 'Seven years and six months.'

'Wrong!' Humpty Dumpty exclaimed triumphantly. 'You never said a word like it!'

'I thought you meant "How old are you?"' Alice explained.

'If I'd meant that, I'd have said it,' said Humpty Dumpty.

Alice didn't want to begin another argument, so she said nothing.

'Seven years and six months!' Humpty Dumpty repeated thoughtfully. 'An uncomfortable sort of age. Now if you'd asked my advice, I'd have said "Leave off at seven" — but it's too late now.'

'I never ask advice about growing,' Alice said indignantly.

'Too proud?' the other enquired.

Alice felt even more indignant at this suggestion. 'I mean,' she said, 'that one ca'n't help growing older.'

'One can't, perhaps,' said Humpty Dumpty; 'but two can. With proper assistance, you might have left off at seven.'

http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php



bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. It all went down in Hong Kong.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:22 AM
Nov 2013

The spooks would have done better to let him go to Latin America instead of stranding him in Moscow. But that would have been "reality based".

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
7. It has been a fiasco from Minute 1 second 5
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:09 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:15 PM - Edit history (1)

The errors in the prosecution and persecution of whistleblowers have been compounding exponentially.

It doesn't reflect well on this Administration, which doesn't reflect well on the Democratic Party, which doesn't reflect well on the United States, which the rest of the world knows is now run by two completely crazy and corrupted groups of competing elites.

Most banana republics have at least sorted it out into ONE batch of Elite vs. the impoverished population. We haven't even gotten that far. Talk about backward! We have created a new category: the Fourth World nation: decaying empire.

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
6. As long as he doesn't talk
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:37 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:05 PM - Edit history (2)

about what the Russians know about the NSA spying on them.

The Taliban screwed this up. They should have offered asylum.

They are more into human rights than the US dontcha know. (on edit)

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. My, my...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:55 AM
Nov 2013

Now Comrade Eddie, former American, is pissing off his new homeland.

Maybe the winter is too cold and Putin's lap not warm enough? Try Somalia, it's warmer there.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
10. I doubt the most ignorant, xenophobic poster at FreeRepublic could have said it better.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:23 PM
Nov 2013

Congratulations, I guess....

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