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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:44 PM Nov 2013

Majority Of Americans Want More Checks On NSA Spying

Source: Huffington Post

A majority of Americans think that current oversight over data the NSA can collect about Americans is inadequate, and almost half think oversight of the data the NSA collects about foreigners is inadequate, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll.

According to the new poll, 54 percent of Americans think federal courts and rules put in place by Congress do not provide adequate oversight over the phone and Internet data the NSA can collect about Americans, while only 17 percent said that the oversight is adequate.

And respondents were almost as likely to say that oversight of the NSA's data collection is inadequate even for programs targeting foreigners. Forty-eight percent said that oversight is inadequate, and only 20 percent said that it is adequate...

A plurality of Americans -- 47 percent -- said that revelations about the U.S. tracking phone calls of foreigners living in U.S.-allied countries has hurt U.S. standing abroad. But 14 percent said the revelations have helped, and 17 percent said it has neither helped nor hurt. Still, only 43 percent said they had heard a lot about the programs, while 44 percent had heard a little and 13 percent had heard nothing at all...



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/02/surveillance-poll_n_4195379.html

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Majority Of Americans Want More Checks On NSA Spying (Original Post) Indi Guy Nov 2013 OP
amen to more checks and oversight gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
Why didn't the public want more checks on the NSA years ago? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #2
Does it matter? last1standing Nov 2013 #4
It bothers me Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #10
Because NOW they think a black guy is looking at their porn. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #6
Because there was nothing more than speculation years ago. OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #7
More than speculation Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #11
No proof. OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #16
This has piece of the OP's quote may have some bearing TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #15
When in the last 30 years has it mattered what that majority of Americans want rainy Nov 2013 #3
Never. Won't now either. Soon the US will be a full-blown pariah state.....nft boomersense Nov 2013 #5
No kidding! IkeRepublican Nov 2013 #8
"Make No Mistake™... only by ending your privacy can we save your privacy" MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #9
And NannyFeinstein agrees. And she would know! Wilms Nov 2013 #12
Thank God! n/t bobGandolf Nov 2013 #13
Jeepers the American electorate figured it out polynomial Nov 2013 #14
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
16. No proof.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 08:04 AM
Nov 2013

No legal standing, except in the Al Hariman case, but the gov't dropped it instead of allowing the document to be unsealed.

TheKentuckian

(25,020 posts)
15. This has piece of the OP's quote may have some bearing
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:30 AM
Nov 2013

"Still, only 43 percent said they had heard a lot about the programs, while 44 percent had heard a little and 13 percent had heard nothing at all..."

Saturation of knowledge is still low, the further one goes back in time the lower it is.

The folks whining about this being "old news" sure seemed to have precious few links, generally a single USA Today article and maybe a few more that referenced that same writeup.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
8. No kidding!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:33 PM
Nov 2013

If it gets too loud of an issue, Washington will come up with some mile thick pile of papers to make it "illegal" containing a thousand more loopholes that take what's already bad enough and multiply it a hundredfold.

Same thing with the 1% paying taxes. They're supposedly supposed to pay more of a percentage according to law, yet manage to always skate into paying less than before over the course of a decade or more.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
9. "Make No Mistake™... only by ending your privacy can we save your privacy"
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:36 AM
Nov 2013

Only the government's allowed to keep everything secret, you silly goose.

polynomial

(750 posts)
14. Jeepers the American electorate figured it out
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:07 AM
Nov 2013

Meta data has a language of its own, with Meta math, and Meta logic.
Mega data sifted in expert ways yield really cool applications. Besides applications for anti-terrorism, computer algorithms for marketing, or consumer behavior, really interesting medical projections, nutrition, all types of communication applications. Or political applications like mapping to gerrymander.

From some of my research findings about the honorable Senator Feinstein is in an historical article by Laurence H. Shoup that is not favorable. In this small article it was not mentioned that Feinstein with her husband have holdings in the education area, besides other real-estate banking stuff.

The interesting thing is the holdings are education schools ITT technical, originally of the famous International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation. The most quietly celebrated engineer Alec Harley Reeves working for ITT received the Nobel Prize for the invention of Pulse Code Modulation. He was awarded 82 patents. The possibility for some patents migrated along with the sale of the schools.

I could be wrong, but for an educational stock it is at a respectable price.

Buying into the Technical schools with these patents would be a very sweet deal. Applications for pulse code modulation are what computers use for the digital communications in our modern systems. Connecting that to the high schools in a transparent way would be an ideal setting for advanced opportunities given to Americas young minds.

In any event my background as a military specialist in multiplex systems sense to suggest a vision Feinstein may have for the future for a very nifty evolution with those tech schools. Only rich people can make moves like that. As an example, the Rockefellers, from what I understand, financed the startup of the University Chicago. The University of Chicago is an outstanding Midwest professional medical service system.
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