Toronto Mayor Ford Admits He Smoked Crack
Source: Associated Press
TORONTO MAYOR ADMITS HE SMOKED CRACK
By ROB GILLIES
Nov. 5, 2013 12:35 PM EST
TORONTO (AP) The mayor of Toronto is saying he smoked crack "probably a year ago" when he was in a "drunken stupor."
Rob Ford's admission to reporters Tuesday follows months of accusations during which the embattled mayor refused to step down. The allegations that he had been caught on video smoking crack surfaced in May.
"Yes, I have smoked crack cocaine," Ford told reporters Tuesday outside his office. "There have been times when I've been in a drunken stupor. That's why I want to see the tape. I want everyone in the city to see this tape. I don't even recall there being a tape or video. I want to see the state that I was in."
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Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Would love to have said I saw that coming, but I didn't. Well, maybe a little. When an earlier news article said police reviewing the found footage would only describe that they were "disappointed" in what they say, I started to believe that maybe that crazy sunovobitch had actually smoked crack on camera.
Who smokes crack for shitsake?
PB
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)That's the excuse you are going with? I smoked crack because I was drunk?
So your abuse of alcohol has reached the point that you use hard, dangerous narcotics while under the influence?
polly7
(20,582 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)And at times I've done really fucked up things when drunk, but when I awoke, remembered nothing about it. Being in a drunken stupor is not an excuse for most things, but when you get to a state where you don't even know what the fuck you're doing - bad things can happen. And you have an excuse ONLY if you then decide to make some major changes in your life to combat it. Otherwise, you're just a typical drunk, living on borrowed time.
Psephos
(8,032 posts)It's unreal what the concept of personal responsibility has decayed into.
AAO
(3,300 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Now that givse you no right to hold you job.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)if it was one night of extreme drunkenness and it was out of character, then I think Torontonians would be pretty forgiving.
The problem is he's lied about it for months, him and his brother have tag teamed on their radio show to trash everyone who has every questioned them, he's denied a video exists, he's demoted people because they spoke out against him, one of the people who he smoked crack with was murdered around the time the video went missing, he has shown up to official functions floor-licking drunk, he has continually trashed the media, called them liars (the ones who saw the video), his brother is now attacking the police and asking the chief to step down (I presume because they found the video, although the excuse was his 'personal comments' about being disappointed were 'unprofessional'...oh fucking please) ....
he's disgusting. A typical conservative - blames everyone else. Hell, today he blamed the press for why he didn't admit smoking crack before, "You guys didn't ask the right question, I'll answer if you as the proper question" WTF, really??
The drunken stupor is the least of it. And yes, I've totally BTDT and I get exactly what a drunken stupor is (BTDT nearly every weekend when I was a teen) and it doesn't make you totally lose your head in that fashion if you aren't already predisposed to it.
daleo
(21,317 posts)By that stage of life, a person leading a city of 4 million or so has to do better.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)jessie04
(1,528 posts)"I was drunk....."
"PROBABLY one year ago...."
" I want to see the tape...."
bemildred
(90,061 posts)rurallib
(64,607 posts)*It's OK If You're A Republican
Hope to enjoy each delicious detail.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)We're very "tolerant" about politicans with poor self-control down here (unless they are Democrats).
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Meaning IOKIYARConservative, of course.
Otherwise he would have been out six months ago or more.
His poll ratings have not dropped! They are solid at the level of his base, which remains fully loyal and is toughing it out. There's more to this story, the murder probably is also related to the coverup. He's been visibly trashed at many public events, where all other politicians crowd on the other side of the photo from him and he stands alone with pants practically falling off, red-faced and barely able to stand. And he's hung on all this time.
NickB79
(20,278 posts)We've all done stupid things while drunk, but most of us don't end up smoking crack, because we choose not to party with people who do.
AAO
(3,300 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)He was in a drunken stupor!
closeupready
(29,503 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)It is Jack Daniels fault.
DallasNE
(7,984 posts)How would he remember smoking Crack. And what does it say about the Mayor that he gets stupid drunk. His political career is all but over. Start working on that resignation speech now.
Spazito
(55,312 posts)nothing can be done to remove him from office, wow.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Constitutionally speaking it doesn't really exist per se, so most city governments can be fairly ad-hoc structures at first, with a lot of precedent and tradition and specific provincial rules factoring in to how they operate. There's avenues for the provincial government to intervene, but they're sufficiently without precedent that I can't even remember clearly what they would be. It's different in each province as well.
Spazito
(55,312 posts)Until this appalling debacle, I thought there would be procedures in place to deal with a municipal official who has behaved as Ford has while he was and continues to be in office.
I am betting this sorry episode will generate new policy and procedures to ensure there will be an avenue to address this in the future.
Edited to add: The media is now reporting there will be more coming out next week in the second release of documents that includes telephone surveillance of the Mayor.
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Saviolo
(3,321 posts)Is that Police Chief Bill Blair had a little come-to-Jesus talk with Ford about the video and the evidence they have against him. As I said in another thread on this topic:
I get why it's funny, and I get that people viewing this absurdity from the outside are lau8ghing about all of this, but damn... I just can't find the humour in it any longer. Living in Toronto under all of this is upsetting, sad, and just... I don't know, it's hard to take.
I feel bad for his family, and in a way I feel bad for him (though I oppose his politics fiercely). He's clearly in way over his head, and he's now backed into a corner in addition to all of that. His behaviour is becoming more erratic, and even his staffers didn't know he was about to make this admission. His brother was even out of the building at Ryerson.
There's no way this ends well. And it's not going to be funny.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)Don't they have VIDEO PROOF?!?!
And someone please tell Ford that 1995 wants it's necktie back...
former9thward
(33,424 posts)There is no way of proving it. They have to tested. Without a test even an admission is worthless in court.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)short of an arrest and conviction...
I'm betting any amount of money that the city *WILL* have some rules in place when this is all over...
maindawg
(1,151 posts)He obviously has no self respect or conscience so he wont do the decent thing and relieve the city of his prescience. He is a pig. He has always been a pig ,being a fucking pig has worked well for him just look how far he has come. Dont think he will ever change or willingly go away.
The real assholes are the voters who elected him. They are the problem. Apparently Canadians are full of hate and ignorance also. I suppose its from watching American TV.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)I think he has to be charged and/or convicted to get booted out. His crack smoking and drunkenness are in the glare of the spotlight of another police investigation of murder, and gang activity.
The cops were surveilling him though and have tons of evidence of him downing bottles of vodka and driving. I don't think any regular citizen would get away that!
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)maindawg
(1,151 posts)and a confession. I wonder if they will press charges ?
George II
(67,782 posts)....to admit it right away. How can anyone respect (or trust!) him any more?
Orrex
(66,810 posts)Just two days ago he was howling about these slanderous allegations, and now here we are.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)And needed a drink and to smoke a little crack.
The man's human.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO....
- OKAY, I SMOKED THE CRACK DAMN YOU!!!!!!!
K&R
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)From what I have seen and read, it's more than a Gateway Drug.
question everything
(51,857 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)I smoked crack in a drunken stupor. Kind of kills the confidence level, and I am talking from experience.
