Sisters claim HPV vaccine caused ovarian failure and premature menopause

[TeaBagsAreForCups]

Source: Raw Story

By Travis Gettys
Friday, November 8, 2013 11:58 EST

Two Wisconsin sisters say a vaccine against HPV shut down their ovaries, likely preventing them from ever becoming pregnant.

Madelyne Meylor, 20, and Olivia Meylor, 19, were the first to say the vaccine against human papillomavirus had caused the condition in a claim filed through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

The vaccine injury program has awarded payments totaling at least $5.9 million for HPV vaccine injuries in 68 cases, according to the federal government and the conservative legal foundation Judicial Watch.

The program has dismissed 63 claims, and 81 claims are pending.

- SNIP -

About 22,000 adverse reactions to the HPV vaccine, which is marketed under the names Gardisil and Cervarix, were reported nationally between June 2006 and March 2013. According to the Centers for Disease Control, about 92 percent of those reactions weren’t serious – including fainting, dizziness and nausea.

- SNIP -

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/08/sisters-claim-hpv-vaccine-caused-ovarian-failure-and-premature-menopause/

[Deep13]

1. Well, they can say anything they want.

I'm going to accept the CDC's assurances until someone finds some clinical evidence that the vaccine is not harmless.

[Xithras]

4. Medical science readily admits that the vaccine will injure (and kill) some people.

There's nothing really questionable about this. Some people get sick and injured from vaccines. Some people die from vaccines. So long as the number of people they are killing is substantially smaller than the number that would die without them, they're considered a benefit to society.

In the reported quarters of this year alone, more than 20 people have died after taking a flu shot. Those are confirmed deaths, caused by the flu shot itself. You don't hear about it because the FDA has decided that those numbers are acceptable...the annual death toll from the flu would increase by THOUSANDS if the shot weren't readily available. Their deaths are an acceptable compromise for the lives they save.

This isn't a good thing or a bad thing, it's just the way it works. All vaccines have a small number of casualties, and we shouldn't mock them or disparage them for being unfortunate enough to be that "one patient in a million" who suffers them. Compensate them (or their families) richly and move on.

By the way, the official FDA, CDC and Merck numbers say that Gardisil averages 1 death per million doses administered, and 1 out of every 30,000 will suffer serious medical complications requiring additional treatment. These numbers are considered to be consistent with other vaccines and background accidental death rates, so they aren't seen as a problem.

Look at it this way: The odds of you being killed by a lightning strike are TWICE as high as the odds that you'll be killed by Gardisil, so it's relatively safe. As safe as it is though, we have to acknowledge the fact that people do die from lightning strikes every year (it's like winning the lottery, the odds that you'll win are nearly zero, but someone always wins).

[lostincalifornia]

21. All vaccines may carry some risk for some people, including the flu vaccine. It is a question of

Risk verses reward.

There is a reason whooping cough is making a resurgence, because many people have stopped giving the vaccine to their kids. Whooping cough is extremely serious in younger children

The HPV vaccine is known to work against most cervical cancers.

Perhaps no one heard but polio has re-emerged in Syria for the first time in 14 years. Pakistan is one of the last bastion's for polio. A simple vaccine can prevent it.

You pays your money and takes your chances, no one is forced to take the HPV vaccine

[dflprincess]

55. Whooping cough (pertussis) has remained part of the regular DTP shot

One of the biggest reasons it's making a comeback is because it was found out that those of us who were thought to have permanent immunity from the shots we received years ago, don't have it. Though, if we get the disease, some residual immunity may mean we get a much milder case (and I think I did have one a few years ago - I just had no idea what was wrong and never got sick enough to see a doctor) but a person with a mild case still poses a big threat to infants who are too young to have received a DTP shot.

Thanks to PSAs I knew enough to ask my doctor for a new dose last year before my nephew and his wife's baby was born.

[lostincalifornia]

56. Also because a lot of people are not geating vaccines

[Quantess]

69. After stepping on a rusty nail 3 years ago,

and thereafter reading horror stories on the internet about tetanus, and finding out that tetanus shots need renewing every so often, I ran to the doctor and got a tetanus booster.
Now I'm doubly glad I did, because Whooping Cough is making a comeback.

[demigoddess]

70. The Dpt shot has always required booster shots

at regularly scheduled times. Had a booster on mine just a few years ago.

[dflprincess]

72. For quite a while adults & older kids were only given boosters for tetnus

pertussis and diptheria (I think) weren't always included in the shots we got after age 12 or so as it was thought we'd have permanent immunity to at least whooping cough - I'm not sure if we still got the diptheria vaccine or if that was also thought to be permanent.

[Deep13]

42. Yup. It is a contest of probabilities.

Cervical cancer kills women and far more women will get it if unvaccinated than will die because of an allergy from the vaccines or whatever. I get a flu shot every year. The odds of serious complications are almost nonexistent while the odds of getting the flu without the vaccine make it a certainty. The flu is a miserable, debilitating disease even if it doesn't kill me, so I avoid it.

[cstanleytech]

67. Why should they be compensated exactly?

I could understand compensation if the company was negligent in the manufacturing of the vaccine or if say it hid the data about the risks but if they didnt do either of those things and the risks (such as this one) were documented why should the company have to pay?

[Xithras]

68. You and I actually compensate the victims, not the corporations. And it's the right thing to do.

Beginning and end of it, really.

FWIW, this sort of thing is actually built into the current pricing model. Every vaccine sold is taxed at a rate of 75 cents per dose, per disease covered (so a vaccine that prevented two illnesses would be taxed $1.50). Those taxes go into a special government fund dedicated to financially compensating victims who are injured by their administration. Last year alone, the program paid out over $275 million in damages nationwide.

Nobody should question their right to that money. These people injured, and sometimes killed, themselves in order to improve the health of the entire country. We're talking about parents who have watched their babies die after vaccinations, children who have lost their parents, people who have gone from healthy and mobile into a lifetime of invalidity. And yes, healthy teenagers who are now facing a lifetime of fertility problems because of STD vaccinations. These are ALL tragic cases, and their victims need to be viewed with compassion. Compensating and helping to support them in thanks for that bit of sacrifice is the right thing to do. It's certainly the progressive thing to do.

[Scairp]

18. My daughter is due for this pretty soon

So now I don't know what to think. I thought it was brilliant when they announced it was being implemented but I don't want my child to become infertile because of it. I guess I need to do some real research and not believe everything I read on a discussion site.

[Bette Noir]

20. Infinitesimal risk of infertility.

Much higher risk of cervical cancer, if she doesn't get the vaccine. Do it.

[Scairp]

29. Yes I've been an ardent supporter

But the number of vaccines in general freaks me out. I have two grown daughters and am literally doing this "second time around" child rearing, and since the time my older girls were babies getting immunized and now it seems the number of shots the kids get are overwhelming. There was no chicken pox vaccine when my girls were little, so they both got the disease. It sucked but they had medical care and were fine, are fine. And of course I had people bringing their kids over to my house to expose their kids to chicken pox to get it over with. It worked, we had quite an outbreak and everyone lived. I'm glad my last child won't have to go through that but if she did it wouldn't be the end of the world. This is quite different of course. We are trying to reduce a horrible cancer that only affects women, so when it's just about females, misogyny rears it's ugly head, as it did when this vaccine was announced as ready to go. If it were for boys to prevent some terrible cancer that would cost them their nuts one day as adults I'm sure the attitude would have been so opposite. I'm sure I will take her to get the vaccine after she turns 9, as I've taken her to get the others, but I've always got a little voice in my head worrying me to death that some vaccine will make her ill, affecting her in a way that would lessen her intellect or her ability to do the things she loves that are very physical. It's scary being a parent.

[NickB79]

31. Numbers of vaccinations mean very little

Children's immune systems hundreds of years ago were exposed to FAR more potentially dangerous agents than the few dozen or so vaccines that we now introduce in a sanitized, controlled fashion.

[Humanist_Activist]

32. My sister and brother in law ended up getting shingles in their 20s because they had chickenpox...

as kids. Considering the amount of suffering both had recently, weighed against the now existing vaccine, they chose the vaccine for their own child, so he doesn't have to suffer the same.

[HuckleB]

33. Varicella Vaccination Program Success

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/varicella-vaccination-program-success/

Lives are being saved, and complications are fewer.

....


Also:

Crowded vaccine schedule for babies safe, study finds
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/crowded-vaccine-schedule-babies-safe-study-finds-1B8002307

[Marrah_G]

74. Life as a mother was hell before we had vaccines.

At least now we just worry about shots

We are very fortunate to not have to worry about all these diseases like our ancestors did.

[lostincalifornia]

22. Preventing one of the leading causes of cervical cancer is brilliant

[HERVEPA]

28. Not analytical thinking

subject her to a much higher risk of cancer due to a tiny chance of infertility?

[Deep13]

41. Nothing is worse than cervical cancer. nt

[YarnAddict]

49. Yes, there is

Lou Gehrig's disease, ALS, is much, much worse, and it has also possibly been linked to Gardisil. Just sayin'.

[Deep13]

50. ALS has been "linked" to Gardisil? What does that mean?

Does one cause the other? Did some ALS patients have the shot? What clinical evidence are you talking about?

I'm sure you can understand my skepticism. I had a smallpox shot when I was a toddler. Now I have chronic nasal congestion. Did the shot cause the nose thing? Extremely unlikely, but what is to stop people from saying they are linked?

[DesertRat]

53. that's a very generalized statement...

My dear friend has had ALS now for 12 years. She walks with a walker and her speech is slightly slurred, but otherwise is still doing pretty well and is enjoying her life. Another friend had cervical cancer and passed away after a torturous 2 year ordeal. So based on my personal experience, declaring which disease is "much, much worse" is very subjective.

And any link between ALS and Gardisal is just anecdotal with no scientific basis. Just sayin'.

[womanofthehills]

51. most HPV cases go away by themselves

according to CDC

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv.htm

"In most cases HPV goes away by itself before it causes any health problems, and most people who become infected with HPV do not even know they have it."

[Marrah_G]

73. Get her the vaccine

I had a horrible and lifelong reaction to the anti-biotic Cipro. I would still advise people to use the drug, because it is a good drug, it just wasn't good for me.

Same with Vaccines. Yes, sometimes people get sick from them, but the number is very small and the benefits outweigh it. HPV causes cervical cancer, which I am relatively sure also would make pregnancy ( and life) difficult. Try not to get to worked up over the story.

[notadmblnd]

35. It could be years til there is evidence

Our daughters are the guinea pigs on this one.

[Deep13]

40. We know the effect of cervical cancer. It kills women. nt

[notadmblnd]

44. About 4000 women a year die from cervical cancer

[dflprincess]

57. How many of those women were having getting annual pap smears?

If you get the test every year, odds are abnormalities will be found before they become cancer.

My cousin died of cervical cancer because she could not afford insurance and didn't get pap smears. As one of her sisters says "X would be alive today if we'd had Obamacare 15 years ago."

If I had a daughter, I would get her vaccinated - but Obamacare may save just as many women from cervical cancer.

[PatrynXX]

36. Oh Boy....

lemme guess there's no such thing as side effects. I didn't used to have migraines and dry mouth either both are side effects and I'm forever dizzy because of Luvox and I haven't taken that in a decade

Now how am I going to trust drug companies who put out a Vicodin pill thats 10 times more powerful??

[Deep13]

39. didn't say any of that. nt

[Orrex]

43. If you haven't taken Luvox in a decade...

then how do you know that it's still causing your dizziness?

Have you been checked for other possible causes?

[Thor_MN]

65. Have you had the Epley or Foster Maneuvers done on you?

The motion sensing particles in your inner ears may be out of whack.

[Yo_Mama]

71. All vaccines have some injury rates which is why we have national programs to deal with such claims

People have adverse reactions to vaccines all the time, but at very low rates.

[leftynyc]

2. Let me know

when someone who went to medical school agrees with them.

[TeaBagsAreForCups]

5. Asked and answered; kindly see Post...

... number three.

[Ms. Toad]

9. I've also added some background links in post #7

(about autoimmune disorders, adjuvants, and testing going on in with animals predisposed to autoimmune disorders and adjuvants.

[azurnoir]

3. wow it may just be from the article

Three possible genetic causes for the condition were ruled out for both women.

Neither will likely ever be able to become pregnant, although they could carry a fetus through infertility treatments, and they must take birth control pills or use patches for hormone replacement therapy.

Merck, which makes Gardasil, refers to the condition as premature ovarian insufficiency, or POI, and argues that evidence does not find a link between the condition and the vaccine.

But an Israeli physician, Dr. Yehuda Shoenfeld, will testify at their hearings, scheduled for Thursday and Friday, that adjuvants found in the HPV vaccine had triggered an autoimmune disease that caused the Meylors’ condition.

[leftynyc]

12. Are there studies that back this up?

Peer review? Anything like that? I admit I haven't kept up on Gardasil as I'm too old for it and have no daughters. I've never heard it can make you infertile and the only people I've ever seen be against it are christian whackjobs who think it will cause young women to screw like bunnies.

[azurnoir]

15. Not that I know of but this could be a singular case too ETA

it may be something with the vaccine affected these 2 sisters due to their own genetics, that's what triggering an autoimmune reaction would be, in this case, it'll be interesting to see what the Dr has to say

This is not against Garadsil at all, but it may be that it did affect these 2 girls in this manner, not enough to stop the vaccine, but enough for an additional warning I would say

[leftynyc]

26. Agree

IF they find that certain genetic makeups can trigger this autoimmune response. I wouldn't want it keep girls/women from taking it as I consider it a terrific safeguard against ovarian cancer - maybe they'll come up with a genetic marker they can check for. I'm pretty sure all vaccines have their side effects but if on the whole they protect against disease they should continue to be used.

[meadowlark5]

13. I thought adjuvants were banned in the US

ETA:

Ignore this :sigh: We do use aluminum gel and aluminum salts as adjuvants. I think in other countries they use squaline which is not used in our vaccines.

[laundry_queen]

61. There was a story a week or so ago

on Canadian news about the possibility of an particular adjuvant used in the H1N1 vaccine perhaps triggered early onset of narcolepsy in children who were genetically predisposed to it. Apparently it's a known side effect of certain adjuvants used in Canada and Ireland and it targets children with a very specific mutation. Interesting piece anyway. I'm leery about the use of adjuvants so I get the nasal flu shot every year which apparently doesn't have any.

[meadowlark5]

64. I'm not sure what the adjuvant was in the H1N1 vaccine

But I do remember when the vaccine was first introduced after the pandemic, there were reports of many injuries and deaths associated with it - in other countries. The explanation was the adjuvant used, one that is banned for use in the US. There has also been reports about military vaccines causing neurological problems and again, it was associated with adjuvants which I seem to remember was squaline but can't be certain that was the one.

[lostincalifornia]

23. How many people given the vaccine are infertile? How many people given the vaccine have removed one

Of the leading causes of cervical cancer?

[azurnoir]

30. further explanation

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=643139

[kestrel91316]

6. Because, being sisters, they couldn't possibly have some weird shared genetic problem

or environmental exposure that caused this............

I'm calling BS until and unless there is a trend. Two cases in siblings does not constitute a trend or cluster.

[Ms. Toad]

8. You are likely right about the shared genetic background -

but the vaccine may well have been the enviornmental trigger. Vaccines include adjuvants which alter the immune response in order to make the vaccines effective. That alteration, combined with a genetic predisposition, may well have been the cause.

See my other post in this thread for links to each of these concepts.

[kestrel91316]

10. Possibly. But the antivaxers will use this to try to get the vaccine pulled, in spite

of its huge overall benefit to society.

And really, nobody died, and not having kids is not the end of the world. There is no shortage of human beings that I have noticed.

[Avalux]

16. Not having kids is not the end of the world?

Where is your empathy for these two young girls who became menopausal before their senior proms? I would ask you put yourself in their shoes. They are no longer healthy teenagers, their bodies have been changed forever and they are suffering symptoms of menopause. To them and their parents, I'm sure it is the end of the world.

I understand your point and I agree with you about the antivaxers, but please don't be so callous.

[AtheistCrusader]

24. Death is more the end.

I'll never likely know why I can't have kids. Shit happens.

The additional medical baggage of their condition sucks though. Hormone therapy for life, most likely. That does alter your life considerably, and is very sad.

Perhaps something can be learned from their case that will make the vaccines better in the future.

[kestrel91316]

59. I don't belong to the breeder camp. Having children is not the be-all

and end-all of life.

I wasn't addressing the premature menopause issue. That is unfortunate.

But as someone who has never had children, I strongly resent the implication that not having children is some sort of terrible tragedy.

[laundry_queen]

62. It is to people who want them.

Some compassion, really. You are not them. Them wanting kids does not make your not having them a tragedy. Their sadness is not a judgement of your decision.

[Avalux]

63. I respect your choice to not have children.

Do you respect the choice of those who want to have a child? I'm getting the vibe you may not. At least try to understand how tragic these circumstances are to a young girl who wants to grow up and be a mom someday. It's not the be-all and end-all to you, but you cannot expect what's good for you to be good for someone else.

[Hekate]

17. The article and informed opinions in this thread are very interesting and valuable...

... including yours, kestrel. As you know I do value your opinion, and while I'm pro-vaccine I've always been aware that there are some risks.

That said, infertility on the personal level is often deeply painful, and not to be dismissed lightly by those who have not experienced it. It's different from choosing the child-free life.

[AtheistCrusader]

25. Not just infertility, unfortunately.

The Ovaries do much more than just provide ovums. They are a major component of the endocrine system.

In this case, this is a bit like a case of type1 diabetes, wherein the immune system has utterly destroyed the pancreas. Except, ovaries instead. Something, or some set of conditions led their immune system to select their ovaries as an invader, and consequently destroyed them.

[Ms. Toad]

34. If you really believe in choice,

the choice to have a child is as valid as any other reproductive choice - whether you believe there are too many people around or not.

Aside from which, this is one autoimmune disorder. The mechanism proposed may be responsible for other autoimmune disorders which are life threatening or disabling.

People with genetic predispositions to autoimmune disorders are not throw-away people whose lives can be sacrificed merely because they fall on the "wrong" side of a black and white argument about vaccinations.

[kestrel91316]

58. They are infertile. This has no bearing on my political opinion

about reproductive decision making being left to the women in question.

These women's lives are NOT BEING "THROWN AWAY" lol. What an asinine statement.

They are infertile. So are many others. Life happens.

[womanofthehills]

52. No huge benefit to society

HPV usually goes away without treatment - there are over 100 strains and the vaccine only covers a few -

[Humanist_Activist]

60. Yeah, its going away for my best friend, along with her ovaries and cervix. n/t

[PassingFancy]

75. I totally agree with you - not being able to have kids isn't the end of the world

I totally agree with you that the vaccine causing infertility isn't the end of the world - we are already overpopulated IMHO.

And, I also agree with you that the antivaxers will use any kind of weirdo reaction to all vaccines as a way to get vaccines pulled. I know the devastation that is caused by certain diseases that kids get vaccinated for these days. One case in point - whooping cough. I had a cousin who in her senior year got whooping cough (that was back in 1964 or 1965 - I was around 11 or 12). She went from about 100 pounds down to about 70 pounds and was so sick for 6 months - she barely gained most of that weight back a year after she was sick. She had a cough so bad that she sounded (and looked) like death warmed over. I'm glad my now 27 year old son had the opportunity to receive the vaccine against whooping cough.

As a matter of fact, the greater majority of the vaccines children receive are greatly needed in order to keep kids from being exposed to horrible diseases that can, and has, killed people (and are still killing those who haven't received vaccines). I'm so sick of the antivaxers and their made-up excuses for not having their kids vaccinated. If I had a daughter, I sure as the devil would get the vaccine to prevent cervical cancer.

[TBF]

76. I find it very frightening as well.

I've had anti-vaxxers tell me chicken pox and measles "aren't that bad" and now we have outbreaks of whopping cough. Soon polio will start showing up again.

I have no problem with folks being religious, but when they openly mock science and put the rest of us in danger it's too much (also recognizing many anti-vaxxers are not religious & I don't know what the heck they are thinking).

[Ms. Toad]

7. The common factor in all of my concerns about vaccines

is not in the vaccine itself, but substances added to the vaccine to trigger an abnormal (pace and intensity) response of the immune system to the target. These additives are called adjuvants, and how essential they are in order to make the vaccine effective varies depending on the nature of the vaccine.

The predominant theory for autoimmune disorders is that they manifest themselves because of a combination of genetic predisposition and an environmental trigger which causes expression or suppression of particular gene.

Adjuvants used in vaccines are among the triggers which concern me (and I am not alone among people with solid training in science who share that concern).

That is the mechanism alleged here.

[cannondale]

11. A rather large study was done regarding Gardisil

And if I can find it I'll post. There were deaths, but of course most of them were car accidents, drug overdoses, etc. at the same rate as this who received a placebo. There were annoyances like a rash, but from what I recall there was nothing that would point to Gardisil as the culprit.

Edit: found one link

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/05/03/here-is-how-we-know-gardasil-has-not-killed-100-people/

[Avalux]

14. Vaccines are neither completely safe, nor completely harmful.

When it comes to drug development (including vaccines), benefits and risks are assessed, and the drug is approved if the benefits outweigh the risks, among the population studied in clinical trials.
There are always unexpected risks that appear in the general population after release, even though clinical trials do their best to predict them. It's entirely feasible an autoimmune response causing ovarian failure could be one of them, albeit rare. Genetic trigger has been ruled out; and the world of autoimmune disorders is far from concrete. They probably won't be able to prove or disprove the claim.

[OhioChick]

19. Japan withdraws support of controversial HPV vaccine over safety concerns

Wed Oct 16, 2013 14:01 EST

TOKYO, October 16, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – While jurisdictions throughout the Western world continue to promote the HPV vaccine, the Japanese government has pulled its support of the controversial drug and sent formal notifications to local health officials saying that it should not be administered until safety concerns are investigated.

The vaccines in question, Gardasil and Cervarix, are meant to combat Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), thought to be the most common sexually transmitted infection in the world. HPV is known to cause multiple types of cancers, including cervical, anal, penile, and throat cancer.

The vaccines do not prevent cancer cells from forming in the body but purport to prevent the four most common strains of HPV, out of an estimated 150 strains.

Japan acted on a report by Japanese internist and cardiologist, Dr. Sataro Sato, who revealed that since the vaccine was introduced in 2010, almost 2,000 adverse events were reported to the country’s Vaccine Adverse Reactions Review Committee, including 358 cases that were evaluated as serious.

More: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/japan-withdraws-support-of-controversial-hpv-vaccine-over-safety-concerns


Australia must also caution on Gardasil

Friday, 28 June 2013

On June 14, the Japanese Health Ministry issued a nationwide notice that the so-called ‘cervical cancer’ vaccinations should not be recommended for girls aged 12 to 16. This precautionary move followed reports of 1,968 cases of possible adverse effects including body pain, numbness and paralysis.

The Japanese government’s subsidy program of either Gardasil or Cervarix, the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) vaccines, which are aimed at reducing cervical cancer, began in 2010 with an estimated 3.28 million girls having now received the vaccinations. A special task force examined 43 cases of widespread pain after HPV vaccinations and concluded that given the timing of symptoms they could not rule out a connection between the adverse events and HPV vaccines. Japanese girls can still receive the vaccination for free, but medical institutions must inform them that the Ministry does not recommend it.

In April 2007, Australia introduced the Gardasil vaccine to Australian girls aged 12-16 years. This was immediately followed by young women becoming ill with serious side effects. To date, Australia’s database of adverse event notifications (DAEN) has recorded over 1991 suspected side effects following the cervical cancer vaccination. In the U.S. the total number of adverse effects stands now at 30,000, with 138 deaths and 5977 girls and young women whose health never recovered. Due to the lack of mandatory reporting, only between 1 per cent and 10 per cent of adverse reactions are ever recorded, so unfortunately we are really looking at much higher figures.

The list of adverse effects following Gardasil is extensive with many of the side effects serious and long-lasting. They include seizures, anaphylaxis, paralysis, Lou Gehrig’s disease (ALS), acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM), facial palsy, deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, chronic fatigue syndrome, pancreatitis, short-term memory loss, multiple sclerosis, autoimmune disorders, and Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

More: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15181

[lostincalifornia]

27. Then don't have the vaccine. Nobody forces anyone to take the HPV vaccine. The majority of people

Given the vaccine are doing just fine.

[christx30]

45. In Texas there was a

controversy in 2007 because the HPV was made mandatory for girls 11 and up by an executive order of Rick Perry. It was later overturned by the legislature. An identical law in Virginia is still on the books.

[lostincalifornia]

47. That is Rick Perry, doesn't extrapolate elsewhere, including Texas since they overturned it

[AAO]

37. My wife and I both tested negative for HPV.

So we should never have to worry about getting it right? I mean doesn't it transmit via sexual relations predominately?

Since we never have sex, we should be good to go, right??

[lostincalifornia]

48. First of all it is approved for people age 9 to 26. Studies are being done to determine if other

age groups benefit.

To your second point you are right

Sorry

[proverbialwisdom]

38. Vaccine Injury Compensation Program mentioned in OP will be the subject of House hearing next month.

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/11/06/antivaccinationists-will-be-holding-a-congressional-briefing-to-attack-the-vaccine-court-tomorrow/

Antivaccinationists will be holding a Congressional briefing to attack the Vaccine Court tomorrow
Posted by Orac on November 6, 2013

People who follow the antivaccine movement might remember that around this time last year, Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA), a particularly antiscience legislator who appears to be trying to take up the antivaccine mantle left behind when Rep. Dan Burton (R-IN) retired at the end of the last session of Congress. Given that he now chairs the House committee that Burton once chaired, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Issa decided to take up that mantle by following Burton’s lead when he was the chair and scheduled an antivaccine hearing last November, right after Thanksgiving. Not surprisingly, it turned out to be a mummer’s farce, full of pseudoscience, quackery, and antivaccine rhetoric about how we have to “investigate” the “autism epidemic.” Several months later, those of us who pay attention to these things learned that the hearing had been bought and paid for by the antivaccine movement, to the tune of $40,000 for Darrell Issa’s re-election campaign last year.

Murmurs have been rumbling in the antivaccine underground that there would be another hearing this year around the same time. It turns out that it’s probably been delayed until December, thanks to the government shutdown in October, but it is apparently still on. In fact, I’m getting notices and seeing what the antivaccinationists are saying about it, and it appears that there will be a Congressional briefing tomorrow in preparation for the hearing:

More.

https://www.facebook.com/TheCanaryParty

Yesterday

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Wonderful news from DC today!

Our community held a briefing, preparing congressional staffers for the upcoming VICP hearings in the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform next month. The turnout was great... standing room only!

Canary Party President, Jennifer Larson introduced our main speakers. Mary Holland of EBCALA and former VICP petitioner Rolf Hazelhurst gave a pitch perfect presentation. At the beginning, Mary pointed out that she was strongly in favor of safe and effective vaccination, and that the anti-vaccine label was simply not going to stick. Rolf discussed the malfeasance of the DOJ attorneys who defend the vaccine program.

We screened our "Do Vaccines Cause Autism" Vaccine Court video and our soon to be released "Not A Coincidence" HPV vaccine injury video, and at least one young staffer seen tearing up. Good interest shown on the part of the staffers in attendance.

Pharma and Vaccine Injury Denialists were also in attendance... which tells you how seriously they are taking our work now. Losing their liability protection will cost Pharma billions, so expect them to fight with all they have. So as we move forward to this hearing, and beyond to get yet more hearings on the damage the vaccine program is doing, we have to be focused and committed to the work as best we can.

More.

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77. OGR Chair Issa "Delays" Hearings on Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. Affected Families Stunned.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/11/ogr-chairman-issa-delays-hearings-on-vaccine-injury-compensation-program-affected-families-stunned.html

OGR Chairman Issa "Delays" Hearings on Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP). Affected Families Stunned.

Yesterday The Canary Party and her partners who have worked for a year on getting hearings on vaccine injury in Congress were informed that the hearing on the VICP that was set for December 4th has been postponed until next year. We had a call this morning with the staff of the House Committee on Oversight and Government to get more clarity on their decision, and were informed that while the community of vaccine injured families is eager to testify, they were finding "reluctance" from others to participate in the hearings.

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Posted by Age of Autism at November 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

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46. Bloomberg Market Makers Video: The Economics of Vaccines

[img]http://www.bloomberg.com/video/the-economics-of-vaccines-556FjKcrRumuMfi9WfacAg.html[/img]

VIDEO (2:41): The Economics of Vaccines

Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Olivia Sterns reports on Merck's vaccines business. She speaks on Bloomberg Television's "Market Makers." (Source: Bloomberg)

https://www.facebook.com/TheCanaryParty

The Canary Party shared a link: Video above.

October 31
You know that talking point about how vaccines don't make any money and Pharma just does it for the good of humanity?

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54. Related.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/806645
Japan, June 25 2013

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.545014
Israel, 03.09.13

http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f5492
India, 6 September 2013

..more.

http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/7/1/37/comments#1334696
http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/7/1/37
2013-02-04

Of course, I read about this here (linked from AOA).

http://www.greatergoodmovie.org/news-views/hpv-vaccines-and-science-based-medicine/
HPV Vaccines and Science Based Medicine
February 6, 2013, Posted by: Leslie Manookian

Editors,
As now better informed consumers who know the dire consequences of misinformation, we feel compelled to comment on the Editorial entitled “HPV Prevention Series” authored by Silvia de Sanjose . The author makes several statements which are at best, half-truths...
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Competing interests:
Consumers who were misinformed about the necessity, safety and efficacy of HPV vaccines.

BTW, I regard all this as essential aspects of INFORMED CONSENT (a related House hearing is scheduled for next month: http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/11/congressional-briefing-thursday-on-vaccine-court.html ). Conclusions may vary.