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(47,465 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:15 PM Nov 2013

Con Men Prey on Confusion Over Health Care Act

Source: NYT

To the list of problems plaguing President Obama’s health care law, add one more — fraud. With millions of Americans frustrated and bewildered by the trouble-prone federal website for health insurance, con men and unscrupulous marketers are seizing their chance. State and federal authorities report a rising number of consumer complaints, ranging from deceptive sales practices to identity theft linked to the Affordable Care Act.

But now, the technical failures troubling the HealthCare.gov website, as well as the law’s complexity, threaten to make matters worse. Only a tiny fraction of Americans have been affected so far, but state authorities and the F.T.C. are reviewing the issue aggressively.

(snip)

Some level of fraud or abuse is predictable with any big government program, and administration officials expected a few bad actors to emerge.. But now, the technical failures troubling the HealthCare.gov website, as well as the law’s complexity, threaten to make matters worse. Only a tiny fraction of Americans have been affected so far, but state authorities and the F.T.C. are reviewing the issue aggressively.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/business/con-men-prey-on-confusion-over-health-care-act.html

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Con Men Prey on Confusion Over Health Care Act (Original Post) question everything Nov 2013 OP
Thanks for the info. elleng Nov 2013 #1
Of course they do. That's the very reason it was made as complicated as it is. PSPS Nov 2013 #2
Sure. Right. It was designed to enable con men. drm604 Nov 2013 #4
This, but unironically Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #7
But those are not the type of con men the OP is talking about. drm604 Nov 2013 #11
What an sad view you have of the world question everything Nov 2013 #6
K&R drm604 Nov 2013 #3
Corporate media still at it Iliyah Nov 2013 #5
Isn't this what Pukes and TeaTerrorists would call SoapBox Nov 2013 #8
Yup. Then refuse to pay taxes on it. After all, they stole it fair and square! It's theirs now! freshwest Nov 2013 #10
Some of the con-men need a new con JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2013 #9
Con[servative] men? nt alp227 Nov 2013 #12
Hey, this is the United States of.... ReRe Nov 2013 #13
See, this is where my populist streak shows. mbperrin Nov 2013 #14

PSPS

(13,590 posts)
2. Of course they do. That's the very reason it was made as complicated as it is.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:25 PM
Nov 2013

The same is true for Medicare part D. The whole idea is to make it so complex and bewildering that hucksters can sweep in and fleece everyone. That's the business model in our country today: Lie, cheat and steal (and dutifully funnel a portion of your lucre to the GOP as a "campaign contribution" to keep the gravy train running.)

drm604

(16,230 posts)
11. But those are not the type of con men the OP is talking about.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 04:27 PM
Nov 2013

PSPS, the poster I responded too, was implying that it was designed to enable the type of people discussed in the OP; the door to door hucksters trying rip off Medicare recipients. The ACA has nothing to do with Medicare.

question everything

(47,465 posts)
6. What an sad view you have of the world
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:38 PM
Nov 2013

Sure, there are con men (and women) everywhere. But one hopes that most people realize that "if it is too good to be true, it probably is."

And one hopes that local communities will be distributing flyers warning people.

When you hear of supposedly wealthy successful individuals fall for those Nigerians offers, why blame the government?

Medicare Part D is not complicated if you are also enrolled in Part B - the doctors visit. If you are enrolled with a reliable insurance, one hopes that it is explained whether Part D is included, or whether one has to purchase it separately.

As for the Donut Hole - the ACA is taking care of it.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
9. Some of the con-men need a new con
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:25 PM
Nov 2013

The ones who sell the substandard policies that don't meet ACA's minimum standard, then tell their clients they have to upgrade, those are some devious con-men.

Or, wait, maybe we call them "insurance executives".

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
13. Hey, this is the United States of....
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:41 PM
Nov 2013

.... Fraudsters, isn't it? We have no effing idea where fraud and truth begin and end in this country anymore. I do, though. I don't believe any sales pitch.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
14. See, this is where my populist streak shows.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 06:59 PM
Nov 2013

I support beating these con people to death with a 2x4. Word would get around after their mutilated bodies were displayed on Instagram and other social media along with a sign explaining their crime.

I. Hate. People. Who. Pick. On. Trusting. People.

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