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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:11 PM Nov 2013

Brooklyn musician kills bandmates then turns gun on himself

Source: WPIX

WILLIAMSBURG, Brooklyn (PIX11) — An overnight shooting rampage in East Williamsburg, Brooklyn left three men and the shooter dead .

Investigators say the shooter and the victim were all in an Iranian band called the Yellow Dogs. Cops say it all started just after midnight when a gunman launched the bloody attack.

The New York Post is reporting the shooter was an Iranian musician who was upset over being thrown out of the band and used a military assault style rifle to get his revenge.

The shooting went down at 318 Maujer St., the address on the group’s Facebook page. That’s where the shooter — armed with semi automatic rifle with a 20-round magazine — opened fire on someone outside the building before going inside where he fatally shot three people.

Read more: http://pix11.com/2013/11/11/brooklyn-musician-kills-three-turns-gun-on-himself

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Brooklyn musician kills bandmates then turns gun on himself (Original Post) onehandle Nov 2013 OP
I understand that the 3 band members were Iranian also Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #1
Irony SoCalMusicLover Nov 2013 #3
Moral To The Story SoCalMusicLover Nov 2013 #2
Yes, cause taking on 3 people Politicalboi Nov 2013 #4
99.999% sure he/she was being sarcastic. Wait Wut Nov 2013 #5
Sorry, Forgot Sarcasm Smilie SoCalMusicLover Nov 2013 #6
This would not have happened cosmicone Nov 2013 #12
Arm The Roadies!! SoCalMusicLover Nov 2013 #13
They "Were" Talented SoCalMusicLover Nov 2013 #7
I think there's definitely more to the story. closeupready Nov 2013 #8
There's Nothing Else To The Story SoCalMusicLover Nov 2013 #9
If you're being serious, your logic is quite faulty. closeupready Nov 2013 #10
We'll See I Guess SoCalMusicLover Nov 2013 #11
Yoko Ono broke upanother band? marble falls Nov 2013 #14
I wonder if Republican Stepdad's grandson knew them KamaAina Nov 2013 #15
 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
1. I understand that the 3 band members were Iranian also
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:14 PM
Nov 2013

who had left their country because of fear of being jailed for playing their music, they would've been better off staying in Iran and taking their chances there.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
3. Irony
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:19 PM
Nov 2013

They came to the U.S. where the would be safe.

I met someone in Amsterdam who thinks the U.S. is a dangerous place, and he won't come here because of all the gun violence.

But I'm sure there are those who would tell him off, call him a sissy, but from an outsider's view, our gun culture is pathetic.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
2. Moral To The Story
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:17 PM
Nov 2013

Don't kick out a band member if he's a gun owner.

And whatever you do, don't blame the gun.

Oh....and this could have happened just as easily with a knife.......and background checks would not have mattered......and the media is just trying to publicize these stories to promote anti-gun policies......remember, it's the person, not the gun, so keep your damn hands off mine.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. Yes, cause taking on 3 people
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:29 PM
Nov 2013

With a knife would be so easy. Don't kid yourself. But I guess you already have.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
12. This would not have happened
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:27 PM
Nov 2013

if all the other band members were carrying Uzis, bazookas and were rehearsing inside a bunker with armed guards outside.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
13. Arm The Roadies!!
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:41 PM
Nov 2013

After the NRA gets done arming all the teachers across the country, they need to start arming musicians.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
7. They "Were" Talented
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:46 PM
Nov 2013

Just listening to them on You Tube. Not necessarily my speed, I'm not a big punk music fan, but they definitely played well together, and it's a shame all of their futures were extinguished in a matter of seconds.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. I think there's definitely more to the story.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:00 PM
Nov 2013

According to neighbors from what I read, it was a noisy block with all-night, loud parties during the summer. Guns are simply one element here, IMO.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
9. There's Nothing Else To The Story
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:09 PM
Nov 2013

This guy was pissed off about something. In most cases, that would be the end of the story.

But this is America. So somehow he obtained a gun, and took out his revenge by killing 3 people, then himself.

A crazed man, a gun, and a few seconds, that's all it took to wipe this promising band off the map forever.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
10. If you're being serious, your logic is quite faulty.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:55 PM
Nov 2013

It's not as if guns don't exist outside America. It's not as if bands don't break up, and piss people off.

There is a LOT more to this story - whether that's serious mental illness, crystal meth, a love triangle - SOMETHING more going on than what's being reported.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
11. We'll See I Guess
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:06 PM
Nov 2013

I'm not sure what is so complicated about what happened.

Times are such that you can look online each day and see numerous stories like this. It doesn't matter what was going on inside this guy's head, only that he was able to gain access to a weapon designed to kill, and he took full advantage of that.

In the end, I'm sure it will be as simple as a personal grudge he held with these other musicians. No love triangle, no meth, just a disturbed individual with a gun.

Were it to be a love triangle, or other such circumstance, it still would not relieve the fact he was able to get a gun, and he used it for the purpose which had been designed.

And guns most certainly exist outside of America, but here they are basically a fact of life. I suppose since many are comfortable with that fact, perhaps we should readily compare America to some of the more friendly gun loving countries in the middle east. After all, it's not like people don't shoot and kill each other with guns in exotic locales like Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria.

I feel so much better knowing that guns exist outside America, and I suppose at least if I get blown away here, I am fortunate enough to be shot dead in the good ol' US of A.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
15. I wonder if Republican Stepdad's grandson knew them
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:03 PM
Nov 2013

he fronts a band called the Vansaders, who play some of the same venues, like the Knitting Factory.

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