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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:12 PM Nov 2013

Judge: “NSA exceeded the scope of authorized acquisition continuously”

Source: Ars Technica

@trevortimm Newly released FISA court opinion shows NSA violated or ignored court orders in at least three different ways arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20…

2:07pm - 19 Nov 13

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/judge-nsa-exceeded-the-scope-of-authorized-acquisition-continuously

Judge: “NSA exceeded the scope of authorized acquisition continuously”

New declassifed documents show legal arguments over bulk metadata collection.


by Cyrus Farivar - Nov 19 2013, 1:36am EST

Yet another Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) judge has blasted United States intelligence officials for disregarding the court’s guidelines for domestic surveillance of American e-mail metadata traffic, a program that ran for around a decade before ending in 2011.

“(National Security Agency’s) record of compliance with these rules has been poor,” wrote Judge John D. Bates in a 117-page opinion (PDF) whose date was redacted. The opinion is just one of a series of documents released and declassified late Monday evening by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).

“Most notably, NSA generally disregarded the special rules for disseminating United States person information outside of NSA until it was ordered to report such disseminations and certify to the FISC that the required approval had been approved. The government has provided no meaningful explanation why these violations occurred, but it seems likely that widespread ignorance of the rules was a contributing factor.”

This set of documents, which include annual reports from the Attorney General to Congress, memos, presentations, and training documents, were released in relation to an Electronic Frontier Foundation and American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit. Earlier batches were released in September 2013 in August 2013. In total, ODNI says it has now released nearly 2,000 new documents in recent months.

Read more: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/judge-nsa-exceeded-the-scope-of-authorized-acquisition-continuously

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Judge: “NSA exceeded the scope of authorized acquisition continuously” (Original Post) Hissyspit Nov 2013 OP
So I'm going to give those naughty boys another chance to do it right... Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #1
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2013 #2
I note the past-tense "exceeded". silvershadow Nov 2013 #3
Many of the abuses are legal now. Pholus Nov 2013 #12
NSA = Rouge Criminal Agency Run Amuck <-PROSECUTE! JAIL 'EM! ~nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #4
Until there is effective Oversight, Enforcement, and strong Penalties... bvar22 Nov 2013 #5
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #6
But follow the money - the rogue agency is expanding moment by moment. Its spending will truedelphi Nov 2013 #7
Wow... ReRe Nov 2013 #9
Thanks for posting. See the new Progressives Group for more NSA links. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #8
Here's your tax dollars & the FISA court at work... Indi Guy Nov 2013 #10
Big K&R! Wonder how the authoritarian crowd will spin this... nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #11
Oh you know how they'll spin it... truedelphi Nov 2013 #13
, blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #14
I suspect that the date was "redacted" Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #15
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
3. I note the past-tense "exceeded".
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:27 PM
Nov 2013

While it was proper to use the past-tense, I suppose, I wonder why he didn't just use "exceeds"? I mean, surely they are not ever going to stop now. I can't imagine any scenario where they will stop.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
12. Many of the abuses are legal now.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:16 PM
Nov 2013

Made so by our congress, obviously with only the purest of intentions and the best wishes for the citizens of this country.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
5. Until there is effective Oversight, Enforcement, and strong Penalties...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:58 PM
Nov 2013

...the abuse will continue.

Thank gawd for the patriotic Whistle Blowers and Journalists who take their constitutional responsibilities seriously.
THEY are the Last Line protectors of our democracy.
Once they are silenced..... goodbye.




truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
7. But follow the money - the rogue agency is expanding moment by moment. Its spending will
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:55 PM
Nov 2013

Overshadow every aspect of our lives.

And if it takes our Social Security surplus to pay for it, so be it.

And remember, a lot of what happens in defense and surveillance programs falls into the black op category.

If Diane Feinstein, who heads the Senate Committee on Surveillance, can see to it that the paperwork concerning the bidding process by which her husband's real estate company, CBRE, became the sole Real Estate authority over each and every single transaction relating to US Post Office properties and buildings remains classified as part of a National Security measure, anyone can see the writing on the wall.

Mark my words, the "Surveillance Society" means that the American people will never again have to witness, read about, hear about or even smell the stink of corruption tainting our governmental "leaders," and bankrupting our country.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. Wow...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:24 PM
Nov 2013

...now that's a mouthful of TRUTH. You know, since you mentioned that they may be trying to get their hands on the Social Security money, I wonder. Maybe the reason TPTB are so intent on downsizing Social Security is because they have already done just that. I would NOT put it past TPTB.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
13. Oh you know how they'll spin it...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:27 PM
Nov 2013

"Because Nine Eleven!"

or even "Because Diane Feinstein!"

If those memes don't work, it's on account of "Our children!"

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
15. I suspect that the date was "redacted"
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:02 AM
Nov 2013

Because they don't want us to know just how long it's been going on since the Judge told them to stop it.

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