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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:03 PM Nov 2013

Walmart offended by criticism of employee-oriented charity

Source: UPI

A spokesman for U.S. retail giant Walmart said the company was "offended" that a charity for store employees was hit with criticism.

"This program was completely taken out of context. We are offended. This was an act of human kindness for our associates," said spokesman Brooke Buchanan referring to a bins placed in an employee-only area of a Canton, Ohio, store that asked for donations, "so Associates in Need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner."

Buchanan said Walmart employees through the Associates in Critical Need Trust had donated $80 million to fellow-associates since 2001, USA Today reported Tuesday.

That program awards grants of up to $1,500 to associates facing tough times, including "homelessness or illness," the newspaper said.



Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2013/11/19/Walmart-offended-by-criticism-of-employee-oriented-charity/UPI-89421384875398/?spt=hts&or=8

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Walmart offended by criticism of employee-oriented charity (Original Post) Redfairen Nov 2013 OP
I am offended that he is offended Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #1
I'm also offended that the walmart rep is offended Cha Nov 2013 #9
You miserable piece of dog shit, try paying associates enough for them to eat for an act of kindness JEB Nov 2013 #2
Eff Walmart kitt6 Nov 2013 #3
Up to $1500 Sanity Claws Nov 2013 #4
Oh poor Walmart! There feelings are hurt. sheshe2 Nov 2013 #5
No, it's not. It's worse than you can imagine. jmowreader Nov 2013 #19
Now why am I not surprised by that! sheshe2 Nov 2013 #23
Aw shucks Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #6
If they're so fu***** "offended" then give Cha Nov 2013 #7
Yadda, yadda. Fact: Their associates shouldn't be in poverty. nt silvershadow Nov 2013 #8
Easy answer : Don't shop at minimum wage stores Dorn Nov 2013 #10
My wife and I are OFFENDED that the Walton family can't have the moral fiber to pay their employees diabeticman Nov 2013 #11
Yep, Costco pays a living wage tavalon Nov 2013 #71
"We are offended" ...recorded from the stern deck of the corporate yacht. L0oniX Nov 2013 #12
That's not the Walmart corporate yacht. Walmart is a corporation of the people jmowreader Nov 2013 #20
What the fuck is that thing?! Earth_First Nov 2013 #24
Excuse me while I reach for a Kleenex. . .NOT DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #13
Damn. Plantation owner offers to apply salve to the cuts caused by her whippings, and gets what? jtuck004 Nov 2013 #14
At least the slaves on plantations had enough to eat. nt Incitatus Nov 2013 #17
Yeah n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #18
Who told you that? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #49
It seems logical. Incitatus Nov 2013 #50
From the slave narratives ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #52
Exactly--I posted a few excerpts just below. nt MADem Nov 2013 #54
I believe the morals and character of those calling the shots at companies like Walmart Incitatus Nov 2013 #55
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #78
My understanding is that wasn't always the case. Slaves were fed meagerly. MADem Nov 2013 #53
Thanks for the link and info. Incitatus Nov 2013 #57
I was always curious about this. I went to MADem Nov 2013 #84
I so appreciate your link, Hushpuppy nation! dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #97
I love the internet!!!! It's like university in your lap! nt MADem Nov 2013 #99
Um, not always tavalon Nov 2013 #72
And we all learned something. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #106
Pay a living wage... wundermaus Nov 2013 #15
Wal-Fart is offended that everyone knows how piss poor their wages are. muntrv Nov 2013 #16
I'm offended that they pay their employees a pittance and don't give a rat's ass n/t OhioChick Nov 2013 #21
In TN. dotymed Nov 2013 #80
I'm offended wal mart associates are still hungry bluemarkers Nov 2013 #22
Did you read the link? Naipes Nov 2013 #25
So the poor pay the poor and become even poorer sakabatou Nov 2013 #29
If they're so offended they can pay their employees enough to survive and save some money. bravenak Nov 2013 #26
I'll see their "offended" and raise 'em an "outraged" Lifelong Protester Nov 2013 #27
And Walmart itself DOES NOT contribute to this! benld74 Nov 2013 #28
Fuck Wal Mart gopiscrap Nov 2013 #30
Brace yourself for another round Mnpaul Nov 2013 #31
Already on the air around here. riqster Nov 2013 #46
Here too. Adsos Letter Nov 2013 #63
Yes with "Insurance starting at just $40 a month"... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #66
Watch it again, it's not "insurance for $40 a month"... tridim Nov 2013 #82
LOL good point.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #92
It's not Wal Mart, but... caraher Nov 2013 #94
I have been seeing those a lot lately HockeyMom Nov 2013 #76
Cheap Meat! .... adirondacker Jan 2014 #110
I'm offended by the utter cluelessness of the "offended" Walmart rep. northoftheborder Nov 2013 #32
Walmart workers across the nation should walk out on black friday putitinD Nov 2013 #33
Not just walk out obxhead Nov 2013 #36
Well I'm offended by Walmart, so I guess we're even. nt City Lights Nov 2013 #34
Sorry Walmart, we read the point of the drive loud and clear. obxhead Nov 2013 #35
Am I the only one who finds it really creepy . . . markpkessinger Nov 2013 #37
Common in Retail RobinA Nov 2013 #45
calling them serfs would just be too obvious. tavalon Nov 2013 #73
Problem with that BS Brooke is that if your company actually paid people a wage cstanleytech Nov 2013 #38
Here, have another shovel hibbing Nov 2013 #39
Walmart is directly responsible for their poverty. Walmart. Pay your damn employees a living wage! Lint Head Nov 2013 #40
Christ, we're living in a fucking Dickens novel tabasco Nov 2013 #41
The stunning cruelness on display coming from way too many offices in the corporate world stillwaiting Nov 2013 #85
HEY Walmart, Charity begins at HOME........... Historic NY Nov 2013 #42
Another black Monday at Walmart Hawaiianlight Nov 2013 #43
An act of kindness in lieu of a living wage... NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #44
An act of kindness by somebody else, at that. nt riqster Nov 2013 #48
I refuse to shop at Walfart c588415 Nov 2013 #47
Over twenty years for me tavalon Nov 2013 #74
I have never been in a Walmart and plan to avoid ever entering iemitsu Nov 2013 #86
6 heirs are worth more than 40% of Americans. Incitatus Nov 2013 #51
Did the Walmart 'family' donate anything other than the empty bins? QuestForSense Nov 2013 #56
The empty bins Incitatus Nov 2013 #58
This criticism that offends them so much burnsei sensei Nov 2013 #59
Wal-Mart certainly has changed Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #60
So why aren't the Canton associates getting those grants? Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #61
Boo freakin' Hoo! RoccoR5955 Nov 2013 #62
Fuck off. Die. Repeat. Or just host a Twitter chat, Walmart--your choice. nt DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #64
"Now we're gonna cancel it as punishment!!!" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #65
FUCK you Walmart! SoapBox Nov 2013 #67
Fugg Walmart. n't Lugnut Nov 2013 #68
I think this is taking the "corporations are people too" a little too far davidpdx Nov 2013 #69
Okay, he's just a spokesperson tavalon Nov 2013 #70
I'm offended that my tax dollars are subsidizing WalMart's profits. Scuba Nov 2013 #75
+1 Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #105
Walmart does a damn good job of brainwashing their managers liberal N proud Nov 2013 #77
"This was an act of human kindness for our associates" flobee1 Nov 2013 #79
"homeless" associates should be your first clue that you fucked up, soulless Walmart spokesman. tridim Nov 2013 #81
It makes sense that soulless Walmart would have an equally soulless Walmart spokesman tavalon Nov 2013 #100
I'm offended that the Walton heirs control 40% of the wealth in this country - TBF Nov 2013 #83
k&r for exposure of Wal-Mart's heartless and destructive greed. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #87
What a coincidence... silvershadow Nov 2013 #88
I'm offended that WalMart exists. Myrina Nov 2013 #89
Sadly the rich bastards that run the country really don't get it Marrah_G Nov 2013 #90
About that $80 Million packman Nov 2013 #91
Wow thefool_wa Nov 2013 #93
I am offended by Walmart. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #95
They're offended that crumbs aren't appreciated as a feast. Solly Mack Nov 2013 #96
Crumbs that they aren't even donating tavalon Nov 2013 #101
True. Solly Mack Nov 2013 #103
I'm offended ltheghost Nov 2013 #98
He doesn't get it. Quantess Nov 2013 #102
What's that saying about a man not learning what he is paid not to know? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #107
Somone once said something to the effect of, Brigid Jan 2014 #112
Not surprising once you understand the mindset of the Walton family. Lasher Nov 2013 #104
Shameful! They should not be helping those in need or something! Pterodactyl Jan 2014 #108
"donated $80 million to fellow-associates since 2001, USA Today reported Tuesday. " Incitatus Jan 2014 #109
Walmart employees through the Associates in Critical Need Trust had donated Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2014 #113
Reading fail on my part. Incitatus Jan 2014 #114
Anbody here care if Wal-Mart is "offended?" Brigid Jan 2014 #111

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. I am offended that he is offended
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:06 PM
Nov 2013

and doesn't seem to have a clue what the problem with this is.

Cha

(318,715 posts)
9. I'm also offended that the walmart rep is offended
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:15 PM
Nov 2013

because they got called out on their bullshit.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
2. You miserable piece of dog shit, try paying associates enough for them to eat for an act of kindness
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:08 PM
Nov 2013

Why not just let associates take home any of the crappy food they want to eat?

Sanity Claws

(22,407 posts)
4. Up to $1500
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:09 PM
Nov 2013

That is less than a dollar an hour, if one assumes an employee works 35 hours a week for 52 weeks a year.

It is even less than a dollar an hour, if one assumes an employee works 30 hours a week for 52 weeks a year.

Bastards.

sheshe2

(97,346 posts)
5. Oh poor Walmart! There feelings are hurt.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:11 PM
Nov 2013


Let me guess this...

That program awards grants of up to $1,500 to associates facing tough times, including "homelessness or illness," the newspaper said.


...is a write off for the company!

FU WalMart, give your workers a living wage!


jmowreader

(53,143 posts)
19. No, it's not. It's worse than you can imagine.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:00 PM
Nov 2013

The Associates in Critical Need Trust is funded wholly through employee payroll deductions.

sheshe2

(97,346 posts)
23. Now why am I not surprised by that!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:08 PM
Nov 2013

The poor are assisting the poorest. The rich sit back and cry poor me, you are so mean. May the owners rot in hell!

I thank you for that info jmowreader, you made me angrier than I was. That is a good thing, makes you want to fight even harder.

Damn Walmart to hell!

Cha

(318,715 posts)
7. If they're so fu***** "offended" then give
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:12 PM
Nov 2013

the employees Holiday Bonus Checks instead of canned goods.

"An act of human kindness".. yeah, it's called CYA because you don't pay a decent wage. All those Strikes against Walmart didn't happen for nothin'.

Dorn

(562 posts)
10. Easy answer : Don't shop at minimum wage stores
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:19 PM
Nov 2013

If we refuse to frequent places that pay slavery wages, slave wage stores would go the way of.... slavery.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
11. My wife and I are OFFENDED that the Walton family can't have the moral fiber to pay their employees
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

a living wage!


The Walton family need to take a HUGE lesson from Costco.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
71. Yep, Costco pays a living wage
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:39 AM
Nov 2013

and they are doing at least as well and probably better than Sam's (walmarts equivalent bulk item store).

jmowreader

(53,143 posts)
20. That's not the Walmart corporate yacht. Walmart is a corporation of the people
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:04 PM
Nov 2013

THIS is the Walmart corporate yacht.



The boat in your post is Alice Walton's yacht tender.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. Damn. Plantation owner offers to apply salve to the cuts caused by her whippings, and gets what?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:31 PM
Nov 2013

Criticism.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
50. It seems logical.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:58 PM
Nov 2013

Most plantation owners would want to keep their slaves (that they paid money for) in healthy enough condition to work. Walmart probably has a long list of applicants to choose from if anything happens to their current workers. I don't mean to diminish the atrocities of enslavement and I know the plantation owners were able to physically abuse their slaves in ways that can't happen today. But I think there is a new kind of slavery now. Low wage starvation slavery, only beaten by prison labor.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
52. From the slave narratives ...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:10 AM
Nov 2013

that I have read (and stories from my family elders) ... the majority of slave holders believed a well fed slave was a lazy slave ... those slaves that had enough to eat were because after working from too dark to too dark, they tended plots and scraped from the master's table and shared with those that couldn't.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
55. I believe the morals and character of those calling the shots at companies like Walmart
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:17 AM
Nov 2013

are on par with plantation owners of the past. There are just different laws today, but they are trying their best to put profit before people.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
78. Yep ...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:07 AM
Nov 2013

And it's on poor with those "conservatives" that claim the "poor can't be/aren't really poor because they have refrigerators, or cell phones, as of late, food.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. My understanding is that wasn't always the case. Slaves were fed meagerly.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:15 AM
Nov 2013

Slaves were fed crap, and they often had to forage after working a full day. If you look at "historical" food, it's the stuff that others threw away--chitlins, pig's feet, stuff like that. It was the creativity of people left to make do with a bad lot that made these dishes tasty; but they were eating the foot and the snout while the folks in the big house were enjoying the bacon and pork loin.


As noted in the earlier post, the diet of slaves varied widely depending on where they lived, the type of plantation they lived on, and even the years they lived. Here are some excerpts from books written by former slaves detailing their diets.

“The food of the slave is this: Every Saturday night they receive two pounds of bacon, and one peck and a half of corn meal, to last the men through the week. The women have one half pound of meat, and one peck of meal, and the children one half peck each. When this is gone, they can have no more till the end of the week. This is very little food for the slaves. They have to beg when they can; when they cannot, they must suffer. They are not allowed to go off the plantation; if they do, and are caught, they are whipped very severely, and what they have begged is taken from them.” —Peter Randolph, Sketches Of Slave Life: Or,Illustrations Of The ‘Peculiar Institution.’ Boston: published for the author, 1855.

“Slaves every Monday morning have a certain quantity of Indian corn handed out to them; this they grind with a handmill, and boil or use the meal as they like. The adult slaves have one salt herring allowed for breakfast, during the winter time. The breakfast hour is usually from ten to eleven o’clock. The dinner consists generally of black-eyed peas soup, as it is called. About a quart of peas is boiled in a large pan, and a small piece of meat, just to flavour the soup, is put into the pan. The next day it would be bean soup, and another day it would be Indian meal broth. The dinner hour is about two or three o’clock; the soup being served out to the men and women in bowls; but the children feed like pigs out of troughs, and being supplied sparingly, invariably fight and quarrel with one another over their meals.” —Francis Fredric, Slave Life in Virginia and Kentucky; or, Fifty Years of Slavery in the Southern States of America. London: Wertheim, Macintosh, and Hunt, 1863. “The supply of food given out to the slaves, was one peck of corn a week, or some equivalent, and nothing besides. They must grind their own corn, after the work of the day was performed, at a mill which stood on the plantation. We had to eat our coarse bread without meat, or butter, or milk. Severe labor alone gave us an appetite for our scanty and unpalatable fare. Many of the slaves were so hungry after their excessive toil, that they were compelled to steal food in addition to this allowance. During the planting and harvest season, we had to work early and late. The men and women were called at three o’clock in the morning, and were worked on the plantation till it was dark at night. After that they must prepare their food for supper and for the breakfast of the next day, and attend to other duties of their own dear homes. Parents would often have to work for their children at home, after each day’s protracted toil, till the middle of the night, and then snatch a few hours’ sleep, to get strength for the heavy burdens of the next day. “ —Thomas H. Jones, The Experience Of Thomas H. Jones, Who Was A Slave For Forty-three Years. Boston: Bazin & Chandler, 1862. - See more at: http://www.hushpuppynation.com/what-slaves-ate-in-their-own-words/#sthash.R3ODa8PK.dpuf


It would be logical to feed them decently, but really, slavery is illogical, so why would slavers exhibit intelligence or compassion in this regard?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
84. I was always curious about this. I went to
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:23 AM
Nov 2013

a plantation during a trip down south a while back where the tour focused on how slaves actually lived. They of course, cleaned up the hovels they were allotted to make them do double duty as exhibit spaces, but the experience was pretty eye-opening, even with the "prettification" that has to be done to run a tour. I guess it wasn't unheard of for slaves to try fishing, varmint-hunting (without benefit of weapons--imagine felling birds with rocks, for example), anything they could to feed their family. And some owners didn't want to feed their "property" well--they wanted them strong enough to do a day's work, but not strong enough to have the endurance to run away. Such evil!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,156 posts)
97. I so appreciate your link, Hushpuppy nation!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:52 PM
Nov 2013

Been browsing it all afternoon.
( Housework is SO over rated, yes?).

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
80. In TN.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:22 AM
Nov 2013

On teevee, they have commercials that prove how well Wal-Mart associates are paid, and how grateful they are.

Do they have these commercials elsewhere? It is propaganda at it's worst.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
22. I'm offended wal mart associates are still hungry
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:07 PM
Nov 2013

“If you're in trouble, or hurt or need - go to the poor people. They're the only ones that'll help - the only ones.”
― John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

Naipes

(176 posts)
25. Did you read the link?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:08 PM
Nov 2013

The last sentence of the piece had this to say, "...Walmart does not contribute to the employee-oriented charities."

That about says it all.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
26. If they're so offended they can pay their employees enough to survive and save some money.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:13 PM
Nov 2013

This is such bullshit. We should never shut up about walmart.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
27. I'll see their "offended" and raise 'em an "outraged"
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:15 PM
Nov 2013

How about Walmart tries an "act of human kindness" and pays a living wage?

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
31. Brace yourself for another round
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:19 PM
Nov 2013

of Walmart is a great place to work commercials. They have plenty of money for that sort of thing.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
66. Yes with "Insurance starting at just $40 a month"...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 01:36 AM
Nov 2013

I laugh every time I hear that "Yeah right".....The Walmarts are so out of touch they don't realize everyone knows "THAT'S some bullshit right there". Even most of the Teabaggers wouldn't fall for that! Who do they think they are fooling with that? It's actually quite stunning...

tridim

(45,358 posts)
82. Watch it again, it's not "insurance for $40 a month"...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:03 AM
Nov 2013

It's "HealthCARE for as little as $40 a month"

I'd really like to see what kind of healthcare Walmart gives their drones for $40/month.

caraher

(6,357 posts)
94. It's not Wal Mart, but...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:44 AM
Nov 2013

my son was offered a "plan" like that through a temp agency... it's pseudo-insurance with a high deductible and a low benefits cap. I think we worked out that if your reimbursable medical expenses were outside a pretty narrow range between something like $700 and $1200, it would cost more to join than you're receive in benefits.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
76. I have been seeing those a lot lately
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:55 AM
Nov 2013

Happy, smiling "employees" who have great career paths, great benefits, bla, bla, bla. I don't know if this is an old commercial or a new one.

northoftheborder

(7,636 posts)
32. I'm offended by the utter cluelessness of the "offended" Walmart rep.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:31 PM
Nov 2013

A nice Thanksgiving and/or Christmas bonus for ALL their employees from the company would be TOO MUCH for the super duper platinum rich Walmart Clan? How I despise their whole ethic.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
35. Sorry Walmart, we read the point of the drive loud and clear.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:42 PM
Nov 2013

You do no pay you're employees well enough to have a happy Thanksgiving.

What you THOUGHT was something comforting and helpful to people only REINFORCED a FACT.... Walmart does not pay their employees well enough to have a warm healthy dinner every night.

markpkessinger

(8,908 posts)
37. Am I the only one who finds it really creepy . . .
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:52 PM
Nov 2013

. . . the way WalMart insists on calling its employees 'associates,' as if to suggest the employees have some special status vis-a-vis their employer than employees of any other company? I mean, it's sort of like, "Welcome to WalMart -- we pay you crap and give you shit for benefits, but because we're such nice folks, we'll give you a meaningless title to boost your self-esteem (along with the food stamp application we provide with the job application)."

cstanleytech

(28,444 posts)
38. Problem with that BS Brooke is that if your company actually paid people a wage
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:52 PM
Nov 2013

they could live on most of them wouldnt need assistance.
For example Brooke I personally know someone who only earns 10 cents more an hour than minimum wage who works for your company and they are only being given on average 16 hours per week for the last 3 months even though you know thats not anywhere close to a livable wage.

hibbing

(10,589 posts)
39. Here, have another shovel
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:59 PM
Nov 2013

Gosh, every single time one of their spokespersons tries to justify this it just makes them sound worse and worse. You would think for how huge they are, they could hire some decent PR people. They are throwing crap against the wall now to see what sticks it seems.

Peace

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
40. Walmart is directly responsible for their poverty. Walmart. Pay your damn employees a living wage!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:02 PM
Nov 2013

Get a clue. You are blinded by greed.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
41. Christ, we're living in a fucking Dickens novel
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:05 PM
Nov 2013

I'm ready to go live in a cave and say fuck this world.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
85. The stunning cruelness on display coming from way too many offices in the corporate world
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:26 AM
Nov 2013

is outrageously sick.

We do, indeed, have way too many Scrooge's running rampant in this country right now. They fight unabashedly for the elite's financial interests, and they certainly have to know that the MANY people in this country that they are exploiting are earning far, far less than they deserve for an honest day's work.

I have no idea how they sleep at night. None at all.

Historic NY

(39,979 posts)
42. HEY Walmart, Charity begins at HOME...........
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:10 PM
Nov 2013

give them the food they need or pay them a living wage.

iemitsu

(3,891 posts)
86. I have never been in a Walmart and plan to avoid ever entering
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:32 AM
Nov 2013

one in the future.
I don't believe that Walmart sells anything I want or need.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
51. 6 heirs are worth more than 40% of Americans.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:02 AM
Nov 2013

And some of their employees have to depend on the charity of other employees that make about $12 an hour.

If that isn't enough to wake people up, I don't know what it is going to take.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
56. Did the Walmart 'family' donate anything other than the empty bins?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:21 AM
Nov 2013

Their employees are the ones who are filling them up with donations.

burnsei sensei

(1,820 posts)
59. This criticism that offends them so much
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:31 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:32 PM - Edit history (1)

is designed to point out a pertinent truth about the wage in America generally. They have no business complaining about reality, they helped make it.
That is that it isn't worth very much regardless of the amount. Walmart is a pronounced example of this phenomenon, but it's all over the economy really.
The problem is not the amount of the wage, but its relative value.
Increasing the wage is only half the solution. The economy itself must be transformed such that appeals to charity are voluntary, not necessary all the time.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
60. Wal-Mart certainly has changed
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:40 AM
Nov 2013

from the mom-and-pop store I knew in the '60s. I think things started going downhill sometime between 1970 and 1972, when they were listed in the stock exchange and became beholden to Wall Street.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
61. So why aren't the Canton associates getting those grants?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:51 AM
Nov 2013

It's great that employees have a mechanism for helping each other out in times of crisis. What's not so great is that Walmart could give the associates food baskets for Thanksgiving for a lot less than the out-of-pocket costs to its employees to have this food drive.

Wal-mart Inc. can suck an egg.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
67. FUCK you Walmart!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 01:36 AM
Nov 2013

Man, can you offend us, any more than you do?!

What a money grubbing piece of shit corporation.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
69. I think this is taking the "corporations are people too" a little too far
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:15 AM
Nov 2013

Aw shucks, we hurt their feelings.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
70. Okay, he's just a spokesperson
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:36 AM
Nov 2013

but that is really, really dumb. He'd have to be outright impaired not to understand the offensiveness of this program.

liberal N proud

(61,192 posts)
77. Walmart does a damn good job of brainwashing their managers
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:57 AM
Nov 2013

They all believe that low wages are good wages and that this sort of thing is good business.

flobee1

(870 posts)
79. "This was an act of human kindness for our associates"
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:10 AM
Nov 2013

WTF do you know about human kindness, you piece of shit!
all you are thinking about is possible profit loss due to bad PR


Human kindness is paying people what they are worth!

tridim

(45,358 posts)
81. "homeless" associates should be your first clue that you fucked up, soulless Walmart spokesman.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:00 AM
Nov 2013

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
100. It makes sense that soulless Walmart would have an equally soulless Walmart spokesman
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:37 AM
Nov 2013

That is cognitive dissonance that would make most people's heads explode.

TBF

(36,521 posts)
83. I'm offended that the Walton heirs control 40% of the wealth in this country -
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:09 AM
Nov 2013

while their employees can't afford to eat. I find that extremely offensive. This is why you see certain leftist governments confiscating property (see Venezuela) - people can only take so much.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
88. What a coincidence...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:09 AM
Nov 2013

I'm offended that Walmart workers make so little that they need charity.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
90. Sadly the rich bastards that run the country really don't get it
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:38 AM
Nov 2013

They lack the ability to focus on anything besides their own selfish interests.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
91. About that $80 Million
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:46 AM
Nov 2013

I'll bet a nickel that Wal-mart is the one who controls that pot of money and they are making a few bucks out of that. Wouldn't put anything on a company who insures their employees with a life insurance policy that makes the company the beneficiary of that policy. Every time I saw an elderly "Greeter" at the door handing out carts, I wondered if they really knew when they kicked off, the great Wally would collect on their policies, not their families.

thefool_wa

(1,867 posts)
93. Wow
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:36 AM
Nov 2013

Talk about missing the point. The outrage isn't over it happening, its over you paying your employees so little it NEEDS to happen. What a bunch of clueless douche-bags.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
95. I am offended by Walmart.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:47 AM
Nov 2013

Boycott Walmart until they start acting like responsible corporate citizens.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
102. He doesn't get it.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:42 AM
Nov 2013

He doesn't want to understand why people were disgusted by the food drive.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
112. Somone once said something to the effect of,
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 07:01 PM
Jan 2014

"It is nearly impossible to persuade someone to understand something if his paycheck depends on his not understanding it."

Lasher

(29,554 posts)
104. Not surprising once you understand the mindset of the Walton family.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 11:15 AM
Nov 2013

They feel no shame for the low level of compensation they give their employees. Quite the contrary, they are proud of themselves for being able to get by with it and wonder why the labor force is so ungrateful. I am not being sarcastic.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
109. "donated $80 million to fellow-associates since 2001, USA Today reported Tuesday. "
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jan 2014

Their sales are over $400 billion a year and we are supposed to be impressed that they donated $80 million to poor employees over the last decade?

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,455 posts)
113. Walmart employees through the Associates in Critical Need Trust had donated
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

Walmart employees through the Associates in Critical Need Trust had donated

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