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Omaha Steve

(99,494 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:02 PM Nov 2013

Jumbo jet mistakenly lands at small Kansas airport

Source: AP, Excite

By ROXANA HEGEMAN and JOSHUA FREED

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) - The pilot of a cargo-hauling jumbo jet mistakenly landed the Boeing 747 at a small Kansas airport instead of the Air Force base a few miles away where he was supposed to set the plane down.

The 747, with a two-man crew and no passengers, intended to touch down at McConnell Air Force Base in Wichita, where it was supposed to deliver parts for Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner to a nearby company that makes large sections of the next-generation jet.

Instead, the mammoth freighter landed 8 miles north, at the smaller Col. James Jabara Airport.

Hours later, the jet took off again and within minutes landed at its original destination.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20131121/DAA76N202.html





A Boeing 747 "Dreamlifter" takes off Thursday, Nov. 21, 2013, the day after it mistakenly landed at Col. James Jabara Airport in Wichita, Kan. The jet landed Wednesday evening at the airport, about 8 miles (13 kilometers) north of its intended destination, the McConnell Air Force Base. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

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Jumbo jet mistakenly lands at small Kansas airport (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2013 OP
Fog! yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #1
LOL! Wait Wut Nov 2013 #2
Sounds like "Cabin Pressure" Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #4
I would have been shitting my pants davidpdx Nov 2013 #14
Sounds more like Meigs! Xithras Nov 2013 #23
LOL! Wait Wut Nov 2013 #25
Yep Xithras Nov 2013 #27
Oh my... SoapBox Nov 2013 #3
shouldn't drink and fly heaven05 Nov 2013 #5
So he must have been cleared to land by the AFB tower on either 1/19L or 1/19R... No DUplicitous DUpe Nov 2013 #6
Is it normal for air force fields to handle commercial/industrial traffic? Samba Nov 2013 #7
The AFB is right next to Boeing Shrek Nov 2013 #8
One more reason for the FAA to insist that pilots know how to manually fly question everything Nov 2013 #9
That being said... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #10
Two possibilities......... Capt.Rocky300 Nov 2013 #13
That I can believe. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #15
Flying manually may have been the problem. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #18
How would this aircraft have been given tower clearance to land? Earth_First Nov 2013 #11
The Col. James Jabara Airport does not have a tower. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #12
Thanks for the clarification... Earth_First Nov 2013 #16
At an uncontrolled airport the pilots call out their intentions and positions. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #19
What happened ktc Nov 2013 #17
No problems, despite the shorter runway jakeXT Nov 2013 #20
Has he got a chance? UncleYoder Nov 2013 #21
I just watched 'Dr. Strangelove' the other day. heaven05 Nov 2013 #22
Huh. Size does matter. Who'd have thought? randome Nov 2013 #24
Hahahaha In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #28
That would be something to see liberal N proud Nov 2013 #26
They probably could have driven it up to the right airport. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2013 #29

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
1. Fog!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:06 PM
Nov 2013

If that is indeed the Jumbo Jet, that image has a ton of fog.. but I am sure that Plane also has instruments that would locate where they are. Strange story.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
2. LOL!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:10 PM
Nov 2013

I always fly in and out of Midway (Chicago). One pilot apparently had a side gig as a stand-up comedian. He had been going through is entire skit the whole flight from Phoenix.

It was a night flight and we approach Midway, "We're descending into Midway, but I can't see the runway. I do see a large bike path that leads into an abyss of some sort. , <pause> I've just been informed by my co-pilot that the 'abyss' is called Lake Michigan and that bike path is the runway. I'm gonna give it a shot. Here we go!!"

Everyone (that knew Midway) busted out laughing. There were others that looked like they had just died on the spot.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
4. Sounds like "Cabin Pressure"
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:31 PM
Nov 2013


I'm not a pilot, so I cannot vouch for its accuracy, but I can vouch that the series is damned funny.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
25. LOL!
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:23 PM
Nov 2013

My dad would have to fly in and out of Meigs on occasion. I think he rewrote his will every time.

For the curious:

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Xithras

(16,191 posts)
27. Yep
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:03 PM
Nov 2013

My first visit to Chicago was a business trip in the mid-90's, and the company owner flew us into Meigs on his private plane. We actually took a charter into Palwaukee, where the owner had his Cessna parked, and hopped to Meigs in his plane because he said it was "faster than driving from Midway"...though I'm pretty sure he was just showing off.

It was a VERY windy day, and I'm positive that my butt pucker left a permanent mark on that seat.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
3. Oh my...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:03 PM
Nov 2013

But that being said, I would be interested in the final report of the investigation this will bring.

No DUplicitous DUpe

(2,994 posts)
6. So he must have been cleared to land by the AFB tower on either 1/19L or 1/19R...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:12 PM
Nov 2013

But instead of seeing 2 parallel 12,000' X 150' runways, he continued a final approach to a single 6,000' X 100' runway?
That's a pretty big goof.

Samba

(39 posts)
7. Is it normal for air force fields to handle commercial/industrial traffic?
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:14 PM
Nov 2013

Is it normal for the air force to provide airfields to corporations like Boeing?

This reads kinds - Ha ha - silly pilot mistook one airport for another. But its more like OMG! a 200ton plane landed at our 20ton airport without clearance - but luckily nobody died and it looks like they didn't ruin the runway - whew.

The plane is 10x the weight that the smaller airport is rated for. They had to drain most of the fuel and close down a nearby highway in order to take off from the small runway. It took off with a different crew than the one that landed it.

Shrek

(3,975 posts)
8. The AFB is right next to Boeing
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:43 PM
Nov 2013

Our commercial airport is miles away on the other side of town.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
10. That being said...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:35 PM
Nov 2013

I have no idea how this could happen with modern FMS (Flight Management System) equipment. I work with these things every day, and they are good.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
18. Flying manually may have been the problem.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:53 AM
Nov 2013

He may have had the "runway in sight" and landed VFR instead of using the ILS (Instrument landing system).

He may have flown half way across the world using precision instruments accurate to the foot only to hand fly the approach when he had what he thought was the correct runway in sight.

Both airports have north/south runways and the smaller one has an ILS approach from the north.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
11. How would this aircraft have been given tower clearance to land?
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:52 PM
Nov 2013

Outside of an emergency communication with the tower, how would the control tower have granted permission for an aircraft of this size to request clearence without questions being raised before this even ocurred?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
19. At an uncontrolled airport the pilots call out their intentions and positions.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:57 AM
Nov 2013

The danger would be some small aircraft not expecting a fast moving jet to land without warning.

I can only imagine getting ready to taxi on to the runway and seeing that big bastard land right in front me.

ktc

(1 post)
17. What happened
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:06 PM
Nov 2013

I live here in doo-dah (Wichita) and the pilot made a mistake. There are only three dreamlifts in the us and they transport equipment for the dreamliners. Jabara is a small airport for small planes. This morning, lots of people here drove over there just to see it! The traffic was so bad, the cops had to direct it and there were two car wrecks. I can't believe the pilot could make a mistake like this and then he couldn't even say the name of the airport right. Must have been sleepy last night when he flew in. I am thankful they got the plane out without any problems.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
20. No problems, despite the shorter runway
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 10:02 AM
Nov 2013


What is even more embarrassing, the aircraft might be unable to take off again from there, because the runway is too short: about 6,100 feet instead of about 9,000 feet

http://theaviationist.com/2013/11/21/dreamlifter-lands-wrong-apt/
 

UncleYoder

(233 posts)
21. Has he got a chance?
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 10:19 AM
Nov 2013

if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low, you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


Has he got a chance? Hell, Ye...ye...


General Turgidson in HILTSWALTB.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
22. I just watched 'Dr. Strangelove' the other day.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:05 AM
Nov 2013

Turgidson? Madness personified in spades. Sellers is a gem.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
24. Huh. Size does matter. Who'd have thought?
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:18 PM
Nov 2013

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leftyladyfrommo

(18,864 posts)
29. They probably could have driven it up to the right airport.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 12:14 PM
Nov 2013

They were only about 10miles away.

They managed to get it off the ground and on to the right place.

Talk about an Oh, Oops! moment.

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