China establishes 'air-defence zone' over East China Sea
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Source: BBC News
China has demarcated an "air-defence identification zone" over an area of the East China Sea, covering islands that are also claimed by Japan.
China's Defence Ministry said aircraft entering the zone must obey its rules or face "emergency defensive measures".
The islands, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, are a source of rising tension between the countries.
Japan lodged a strong protest over what it said was an "escalation".
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25062525
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)gordianot
(15,234 posts)Sand Wind
(1,573 posts)JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)...act like they've got some sense!
Igel
(35,274 posts)On their own terms.
There's a certain blindness that creeps in when somebody always takes ideology at face value, esp. when there's an underdog.
So the USSR was defended by many for decades who claimed to hate oppression and nationalistic chauvinism, even as it was ruthlessly oppressive and fiercely nationalistic. Action and meaning didn't matter so much as words.
The PRC has also been fiercely defended by some on DU since I've been posting. It hadn't started a war, so it was all underdog and victim--we'll leave out Vietnam, intervention in N. Korea, the occupation and annexation of Tibet (also a cause mostly for left-of-center folk), and some skirmishes with the USSR. That it was unlikely to benefit from a war was overlooked.
In both the case of the USSR and the PRC, the rulers looked after their own interests and those they thought in the best interest of their countries, in some sense. If you have ultimate power in a country it's better to be in charge of a powerful country than a weak country. Being the Chairman of the all-controlling Worker's Party of Lichtenstein wouldn't mean terribly much. The dictator of Sao Tome and Principe, not such a big wig.
Of course, it helps to keep your power base happy and your foes cringing so neither comes to pith you. The USSR had its own way. The PRC learned from the USSR's mistakes.
So the PRC has sense. They know demographics. Japan's going to falter soon. There's a huge sense of nationalism in China--some might call it supremacism, others racism, it's a high-tech composite--and a sense that they are and properly should be the honey badger of the center ("East" is far too peripheral).
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)I'm just married to a Communist Party member, lived in China since 2008 and get told constantly that even though I live in China, I know nothing about this country, its people, its culture or its tradition/heritage. And even less about the political system here.
So I will shut up because I know people will just tell me I am a PRC apologist.
ConcernedCanuk
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This should be no surprise.
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GeoWilliam750
(2,521 posts)Right wing, nationalist Tokyo governor Shintaro Ishihara set all of this in motion when he set up a fund a couple of years ago to buy them from their owners (by the bye, the US has been renting one of them for target practice for the last 60 years or so), after which he would build facilities on them, exascerbating the problem with China. (It is not clear what happened to the $20mn raised for this purpose). Then, Prime Minister Noda apparently approved the central government purchase to forestall a worsening of the situation by Ishihara, and made the situation a great deal worse.
For decades, the two countries had tacitly agreed to postpone a resolution of the situation, and although an occasional low-level nutcase trawler captain or a low-level nutcase regional Japanese politician tried to upset things, mostly, cooler heads prevailed.
Then, early this year in both countries, leaders came to power (Abe and Xi), apparently seeking to consolidate authoritarian power in the face of an ugly domestic economic situation. Both leaders have attempted to whip up sentiment against the other country. Both have taken a number of steps to escalate, and neither can back down easily. The action described above is at least partly in reaction to the recent Japanese announcement that they are putting (unarmed) batteries of surface to ship missiles on islands (usdisputedly theirs) that would be able to interdict any Chinese ship heading to sea north of Taiwan, thus potentially forcing any Chinese ship south through Philippine waters - with whom China also has a rather warm island dispute. This would amount to a potential bottling up of China, which China seems unlikely to view in an understanding fashion.
Both leaders continue to raise tensions to deflect attention from all of their domestic issues, and to consolidate power. The United States has stated that in the event Japan is attacked over this, the United States would come to its defense as obligated under treaty. Abe seems to be leaning on this pretty hard, and he has shifted very hard to the right. It seems that he is attempting to re-establish Japan as it was before the war in the times of his Class A war criminal grandfather.
It would seem that Xi knows that if it can force Japan and the US to back down, as the dominant sole leader of China, he will have effective hegemony over Asia, with no one to stand in his/China's way. It would show the US as a paper tiger, severely damaging US credibility everywhere in the world, and demonstrating the folly of relying on the US for anything.
The stakes are enormous for everyone, although the islands themselves are inconsequential in the scheme of things. We are moving towards a tipping point, a tipping point where one low level nutcase can send the region over the edge into armed conflict between nuclear powers.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)They urge dialog and "calm" on issues, but then become aggressive when it comes to the islands in the Pacific.
It is just a matter of time before China and one of the other countries have an incident that leads to a real diplomatic crisis. The most likely case is going to be with Japan.
I'm sure in the next few weeks we'll see Chinese people goated into basing Toyota's and anything Japanese by the govt.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Spontaneous anti-Japan riot or two. Use of such xenophobia is one-sided on China's part. You don't see similar behavior in Japan so let's not pretend that both sides act the same way.