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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 03:35 PM Nov 2013

NSA slapped malware on 50,000+ networks, says report

Source: CNET

A new slide culled from the trove of documents leaked by Edward Snowden shows where the NSA placed malware on more than 50,000 computer networks worldwide, according to Dutch media outlet NRC.

The NSA management presentation slide from 2012 shows a world map spiderwebbed with "Computer Network Exploitation" access points.

Like all the NSA slides we've seen so far, this one is unlikely to win a Powerpoint beauty pageant anytime soon.

Not that this should distract anyone from the profoundly disturbing implications of this US government malware map that's being reported by a Dutch news agency -- an outlet to which the US government gave a "no comment."...



Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57613550-38/nsa-slapped-malware-on-50000-networks-says-report/

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NSA slapped malware on 50,000+ networks, says report (Original Post) Indi Guy Nov 2013 OP
We have met the enemy, and they are us HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #1
We've gone from "the world's policemen" to the world's corrupt cops. Indi Guy Nov 2013 #3
The World's Police State Octafish Nov 2013 #11
Yeah but... Indi Guy Nov 2013 #12
Especially that kind-hearted liberal Erik Prince. Octafish Nov 2013 #13
Their protecting our freedoms, for Christ's sake! AAO Nov 2013 #24
Yeah! Without our freedom intact Enthusiast Nov 2013 #29
They know what kind of porn you watch. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #28
But it's only meta spyware! R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #19
The NSA never meta spyware they didn't like! Indi Guy Nov 2013 #23
Indeed. nt City Lights Nov 2013 #4
Dissenting Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #8
Indi Guy Diclotican Nov 2013 #2
The fact that the NSA disregards our Constitution (the law of the land)... Indi Guy Nov 2013 #5
Indi Guy Diclotican Nov 2013 #21
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #6
50.000 NETWORKS BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #7
Recommend! KoKo Nov 2013 #9
Who didacted the map? marble falls Nov 2013 #10
wow. nashville_brook Nov 2013 #14
K&R NealK Nov 2013 #15
Misnamed. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #16
Anyone that is an advocate for peace or Enthusiast Nov 2013 #30
...or advocates Warren Commission got it wrong... Octafish Nov 2013 #33
Yup. They give us the business. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #35
Bring the NSA/USA before the world court then. If this R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #17
Unfortunately, and unbelievably, a lot of Democrats are also apologistas and spinners. Psephos Nov 2013 #20
I'll tell you something even less compatible. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #31
+1000000000 valerief Nov 2013 #34
That's because we have the best political leaders... Indi Guy Nov 2013 #36
Is it malware, or just a wiretap? jmowreader Nov 2013 #18
Its mostly malware on routers. cprise Nov 2013 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Nov 2013 #22
Renegade, out of control, and dangerous blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #25
Scary stuff. unreadierLizard Nov 2013 #27
If you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to hide. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #32

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
3. We've gone from "the world's policemen" to the world's corrupt cops.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 04:10 PM
Nov 2013

...So much for the US government being the good guys. Gone are the days when the word of our leaders could be trusted.

Now we're infecting tens of thousands of computer networks with real SPYware.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. The World's Police State
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 05:21 PM
Nov 2013

And they know where you live, what you do, who you know, what you say, what you got, where you go, what you know...

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
2. Indi Guy
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 04:09 PM
Nov 2013

Indi Guy

I wonder, if someone want to sue NSA - as putting mal ware on others network, by default is a crime by anyone else, why should NSA be different from being sued for damage to networks... If a company have beeing doing anything like this - it would be sued out of existence....

Diclotican

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
5. The fact that the NSA disregards our Constitution (the law of the land)...
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 04:18 PM
Nov 2013

...makes their activities criminal. They can't even abide by the rules of the FISA court, which is basically a rubber stamp for everything "extra-Constitutional".

So don't be surprised to see criminal actions taken against the NSA here at home as well as internationally.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
21. Indi Guy
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:48 PM
Nov 2013

Indi Guy

Someone, inside the US, who might get attacked by it - or outside the US, who is attacked by this male ware should get the organization - or some of the ones who did this to a kind of justice - the funny thing with this types of attack, is that if you just use enough time and resources - you will always be able to find out who did it - and maybe track it back from where it started.. It might take some time - but with the right resource - it is more than possible to find who did it - and to back it up with evidence...

After all - it is not just US who have the nesseary resources - and know how to get the evidence needed to get people prosecuted...

Diclotican

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
7. 50.000 NETWORKS
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 04:39 PM
Nov 2013

The already pretty huge hacking of Belgacom (which I posted on earlier, here is a Spiegel article about that alone)
is just ONE of these 50.000.

False Linked-in profiles were used for the hack, by the way.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Misnamed.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 06:31 PM
Nov 2013

A "top secret" GCHQ presentation from the archive of whistleblower Edward Snowden indicates that the project, which carried the codename "Operation Socialist," was aimed at enabling "better exploitation of Belgacom" and at improving understanding of the provider's infrastructure. The presentation is undated, but a further document indicates that access has been possible since at least 2010.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/belgian-prime-minister-angry-at-claims-of-british-spying-a-923583.html

Should have been called "Operation Fascist."

To implant malware in the computer systems of others in aggressive act, a sort of invasion by computer. And the name "Operation Socialist" suggests that the targeting of the victims is not based on security interests but rather on political, economic and ideological interests of, once again, the corporate honchos in America. I could be wrong. Maybe they just misnamed the program, and maybe the name is a joke. But it sure strikes me as an ideologically right-wing program.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
30. Anyone that is an advocate for peace or
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 07:42 AM
Nov 2013

single payer health care is a target of the government (and industry too). I know, it's not a joke or funny.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
17. Bring the NSA/USA before the world court then. If this
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 06:57 PM
Nov 2013

can be proven then the USA needs to be slapped silly...as any other country that does this should be.

I added the last line for the NSA apologistas and spinners, a.k.a Republicans, who say that everybody does it.

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
20. Unfortunately, and unbelievably, a lot of Democrats are also apologistas and spinners.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:16 PM
Nov 2013

Seems to be a bipartisan disease.

If there's anything less compatible with a liberal mindset than these lawless spies and their Big Brother crimes, I'm not aware of it.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
18. Is it malware, or just a wiretap?
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 06:58 PM
Nov 2013

The US government has a LONG history of wiretapping - they dug a tunnel from Alt-Glienicke in West Berlin to the Soviets' main telephone switching center in East Berlin during the 1950s, and that's not the last time they tried this shit. (Problem was, the stenographer at the meetings between the Americans and the British to work out the details was MI-6 officer George Blake, who was a Soviet spy.) And when telephones went to microwave links, the Americans figured out soon after how to intercept those links - the problem isn't the interception, but being able to do it without advertising that you are.

It would be a hell of a lot easier for them, and far more undetectable, to slip the phone company some hard currency every month in exchange for connecting the local American spook's home phone line to the network of interest, and it'd get them to the same place as installing mysterious "malware" on the network. NSA uses the easiest and cheapest methods they can to get them the results they want, and a $7 piece of cable is a hell of a lot easier and cheaper than a $100,000 piece of malware that's got to be rewritten for every network they want to invade.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
26. Its mostly malware on routers.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 05:19 AM
Nov 2013

One of the Snowden leaks revealed they prefer to break into peoples' routers.

Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
27. Scary stuff.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 07:16 AM
Nov 2013

In before the "Everything is fine because Obama is in charge" or something brigade comes charging in.

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