Schumer 'Disappointed' With Obama's Iran Nuclear Deal
Source: TPM
CAITLIN MACNEAL NOVEMBER 24, 2013, 12:29 PM EST
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Sunday he is "disappointed" with the nuclear deal reached Saturday between the U.S. and Iran
"I am disappointed by the terms of the agreement between Iran and the P5+1 nations because it does not seem proportional," he said in a written statement.
The agreement with Iran does not reduce the country's nuclear capabilities enough, he added, making it more likely that the Senate will push for increased sanctions in December.
"Iran simply freezes its nuclear capabilities while we reduce the sanctions," he said. "This disproportionality of this agreement makes it more likely that Democrats and Republicans will join together and pass additional sanctions when we return in December. I intend to discuss that possibility with my colleagues."
Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/schumer-senate-likely-to-push-additional-iran-sanctions-in-december
Atta boy Chuckie! Dance for Bibi!
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Hestia
(3,818 posts)"Tonight what heights we'll Hit, on with the show this is it!"
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)I'm not impressed with your verbal diarrhea.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)But if Israel or Wall Street says Jump, he says "how high?"
paleotn
(17,912 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)former9thward
(31,987 posts)The Senate and House can impose new sanctions which would kill the deal. Reid said last week they would vote on them next month.
dennis4868
(9,774 posts)because Obama will veto any bill that does that.
former9thward
(31,987 posts)Do you think with people like Reid and Schumer on board that it could not get 67 votes in the Senate?
dennis4868
(9,774 posts)good point. Now you worry me.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)former9thward
(31,987 posts)Are you? There is a thing in there called the override. Do you think if Reid and Schumer were on board that 67 votes could not be gotten?
on point
(2,506 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Can't expect much from a guy who preaches the need to economically strangle "the Arabs," though.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)it based on some warped political calculations shows just how wrong they are.
The President is going to come out on top on all of this. I am convinced.
The racists, the media, and the republicans have underestimated this president from the start, and this second term they are going to be looking like the stupid asses they are
Autumn
(45,064 posts)Now go away chuck.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)This was not "Obama's" deal--it was a multinational deal, with as much input from European nations as the US. It was a six-nation (plus Iran) deal. It is also not the final deal, but rather a six-month "moratorium" to allow for further negotiations.
Chuck will soon be set straight. But TPM should know better.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)They are actually rolling back the amount of processed uranium they have. Over the 6 months they will convert all the 20% enriched to a form that can not be weaponized.
I wonder if Schumer even bothered to listen to the details Kerry laid out - or just followed Netanyahu. I wonder if Netanyahu's secret plan to unravel this first step is to get his bought Senators and Congressmen to pass that bill -- which Obama will veto. The question is whether the President can hold enough Democrats to prevent it from being overridden.
All when about 64% of Americans WANT an agreement like this.
Here is the petition - http://act.jstreet.org/sign/iran_negotiations/
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)+1000
proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)...isn't this dino ALWAYS the voice of Israel in ALL of his decisions? I'm guessing he's Jewish himself; but that's not a sin. What is a sin is that his votes are ALWAYS on behalf of the Jewish state, and THAT bothers me to no end.
This is just another example. Neten....doesn't like it, Schumer doesn't like it. End of thought.
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)Honest to God, the Israeli government goes beyond provoking the Arab world with their constant encroachment of disputed lands with new settlements, but then belly ache when any Detente is reached by the US and the Arab world.
By the way: The Gaza Strip is the "21st Century Warsaw Ghetto" and the Israeli government should be ashamed of itself. American politicians LIKE CHUCK SHUMMER should stop being apologist for the nation of Israel. Protect Israeli? ABSOLUTELY; but don't overlook all of their immoral actions and times when they should be publicly called out, over a blind allegiance your heritage.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Israel doesn't need the United States to militarily "defend" Israel, as it has had an arsenal of Nuclear bombs to obliterate the entire world into smithereens. All developed on the backs of the U.S. taxpayers. Interesting how the media either ignores this fact or denies it.
But it goes on..
tsuki
(11,994 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Long, but worth a listen:
http://server4.whiterosesociety.org/content/malloy/MalloyMemories/Beware_of_the_Prior_Generals.mp3
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Did this ass even read the agreement?
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)paleotn
(17,912 posts)...as Israel's senior US senator, what should we do? Screw the diplomacy route and just bomb the shit out of them? Turn the gulf into an active war zone, sending oil prices to astronomical levels? Oh that would just be wonderful for everyone. Iran is making concessions not dreamed of a few months ago, and hopefully this is just the beginning of meaningful and productive negotiations. He says it ain't enough and makes an inaccurate statement to boot. Part of the agreement is for Iran to get rid of it's 20% enriched uranium stockpile you idiot. I could expect such stupidity from a Rethug, but not someone from the President's own party.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)based on distorting what the agreement is. The fact that they use the same words and bogus argument makes me want to know the source. Are they responding from canned AIPAC talking points? Seriously, referring to "proportionality" is something I never heard used in any other deal - why this time do SEVERAL all use the same words?
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Suck it, Schumer.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)the end of timers will have to wait a few more years to get raptured!
november3rd
(1,113 posts)Unless everybody's getting rid of all their nuclear weapons at the same time, it's unreasonable to expect any given country to give up theirs unilaterally.
Besides, Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons.
Meanwhile, the only Middle Eastern country to possess nuclear weapons denies it has them, and is completely outside the international monitoring and control agreements, unlike Iran.
The only solution to the hypocrisy and imperialism is for everybody to agree to the terms of a monitored, international nuclear disarmament process.
It will be impossible, not just unfair, to limit Iran's nuclear capabilities by singling them out for sanctions and controls that other countries don't agree to submit to, unless there's a worldwide, concerted disarmament framework in place.
Otherwise, this is just imperialism.
We have the right to own and operate nuclear weapons but we don't acknowledge Iran's right to do that?
It's such an obvious injustice that it cries out for new parties at the negotiations, new terms for international relations, and revolution, in short: a public takeover.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)This "RARGH MUST DEFEND ISRAEL'S HONOR" thing is getting old.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Not good for Wall Street.
Peace among their enemies is bad for certain states in the region, as well.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)how much everyone seems to trust Iran here on this site. With the mullah's firmly in charge of that country, what could possibly go wrong?
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)I take it your on Eric Cantor's side with this?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)And Great Britain, France and Germany. That doesn't mean I'll ever trust the mullahs in Iran. I'll choose to ignore your swipe about Cantor as it's completely moronic and I have no desire to embarrass you.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)That's why you're in here second guessing. I trust that this administration will hold Iran accountable and deal with them accordingly if they don't hold up their end of the bargain. However, for now I see this as a triumph of diplomacy and the landmark achievement of this administration's foreign policy.
As for "embarrassing me", feel free. Everyone is tougher on the internet.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)NOBODY here is expressing the slightest doubt that the mullahs in Iran (you know, the people actually in charge) can be trusted. The President knows their word is bullshit and I have no doubt he (along with the Europeans) will not take Iran at its word. Much different than the folks here for whom only the US and Israel are the villains - predictably pathetic.