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Galraedia

(5,020 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:38 PM Nov 2013

Fox News host: Obamacare ‘touches so many people’s lives’ unlike ‘Katrina or the Iraq war’

Source: Raw Story

Fox News host Martha MacCallum on Monday suggested that President Barack Obama’s health care law was even worse than devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina or the Iraq War because it “touches so many people’s lives.”

In a segment on America’s Newsroom, MacCallum invited Fox News contributor Brit Hume to examine a recent conservative claim that the president was trying to “change the subject” from the health care reform law by negotiating to stop Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

“That’s certainly part of it,” Hume observed. “But these are issues — Iran, immigration — that the president was going to have to address anyway, whatever his standing and whatever the condition of his health insurance reform plan.”

“What I keep coming back to in all of this is unlike other issues — Katrina or the Iraq war — that we’ve seen in [President George W. Bush's] second term, this is something that touches so many people’s lives across the country,” MacCallum opined. “And you don’t know whether the president is going to be able to successfully dodge it.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/25/fox-news-host-obamacare-touches-so-many-peoples-lives-unlike-katrina-or-the-iraq-war/

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Fox News host: Obamacare ‘touches so many people’s lives’ unlike ‘Katrina or the Iraq war’ (Original Post) Galraedia Nov 2013 OP
'Cause NOLA residents and GI's aren't "people"????? Scuba Nov 2013 #1
And all those people in Iraq - they're just sand-colored props, after all hatrack Nov 2013 #27
Because who can forget all those heartbreaking shots... Ken Burch Nov 2013 #2
You really need to post that on the Fox site... CBHagman Nov 2013 #11
that's awesome yurbud Nov 2013 #31
Fox again making up s**t. As with all right wing hate media, their audience will believe anything Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #3
Positively touching vs. negatively. liberal N proud Nov 2013 #4
Assinine beyond belief...what else to say??nt Stuart G Nov 2013 #5
Where is SwampRat?! Wilms Nov 2013 #6
Yeah, it totally sucks that my son can be on my insurance while he's at college groundloop Nov 2013 #7
Curious... SnakeEyes Nov 2013 #34
They're not even trying to explain how ACA is supposed to be a failure. Rather... Beartracks Nov 2013 #8
that's the hook and it's what makes it so hard to introduce facts to these people. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #30
Next up on FOX "News": Inside the sweatshop making the Super-capes for the Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #9
So? Ideas to make sure our thoughts on this get more news than this news? Moonwalk Nov 2013 #10
These people are insane. jimlup Nov 2013 #12
It's not Rational America that needs convincing maxsolomon Nov 2013 #19
Its even worse to THEM because they DID NOT implement it.. yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #13
Bleh. I've learned so much from this ACA thing: tofuandbeer Nov 2013 #14
Fox is not "The Press" maxsolomon Nov 2013 #20
Agreed. But so many others seem to be following suit. tofuandbeer Nov 2013 #23
You're right. NPR vacillates wildly. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #25
This is so sad, just think, Massachusetts has suffered a health care program like ACA for years now Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #15
...MacCallum opined. “And you don’t know whether the president is going to be able bluedeathray Nov 2013 #16
At least 135,000 killed in Iraq war locks Nov 2013 #17
But Fox Viewers don't know any Iraqis. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #21
Just keep talkin ... Ian_rd Nov 2013 #18
Do you really believe that? maxsolomon Nov 2013 #24
Tell that to this Iraqi girl Botany Nov 2013 #22
more republican disrespect to the thousands of Vets, living with the 'devastation' of Iraq war Sunlei Nov 2013 #26
When perfectly sane people spout nothing but insanity rock Nov 2013 #28
Another freakin' Fox waste of oxygen. nt valerief Nov 2013 #29
They just conflated * with President Obama. BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #32
"touches so many peoples' lives" Martin Eden Nov 2013 #33
In the worlds of Keith Olbermann... GoCubsGo Nov 2013 #35
Excuse me? KamaAina Nov 2013 #36
the horror of just SEEING the aftermath of Katrina will stay with me all my life Skittles Nov 2013 #37

hatrack

(59,578 posts)
27. And all those people in Iraq - they're just sand-colored props, after all
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 01:11 PM
Nov 2013

Fuck Fox, fuck Brit Hume and FUCK MARTHA MCCALLUM.

Asshole.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. Because who can forget all those heartbreaking shots...
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:41 PM
Nov 2013

...of people watching their loved ones come home in flag-draped coffins after they were killed while signing up for ACA.

or all those folks huddled on then roofs of their homes holding up signs saying "SAVE US. WE'RE ABOUT TO GET HEALTHCARE!"



CBHagman

(16,982 posts)
11. You really need to post that on the Fox site...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:08 AM
Nov 2013

...and get it into a letter to the editor.

I try to be sparing with the word evil when describing politicians and pundits, but the attempt to depict increased access to health care as a negative thing, and efforts to create hysteria and exploit fear/ignorance really deserves that adjective.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
3. Fox again making up s**t. As with all right wing hate media, their audience will believe anything
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:41 PM
Nov 2013

they are told.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
6. Where is SwampRat?!
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:26 PM
Nov 2013


This pix needs a bit of his highlighting to really bring out the soullessness.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
7. Yeah, it totally sucks that my son can be on my insurance while he's at college
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:53 PM
Nov 2013

It's devastating that I can drop in to my local pharmacy and get a flu shot at no cost. And furthermore, I don't know how I'm going to be able to handle getting yearly check-ups without having any out-of-pocket expenses.

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
8. They're not even trying to explain how ACA is supposed to be a failure. Rather...
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:55 PM
Nov 2013

... they just present it as a given that it is a failure, and the story now is how President Obama is going to dodge it, and how America is going to have to deal with it, etc.

Weird, too, is that they kind of admit that Katrina and Iraq War are actually problems...

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BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
30. that's the hook and it's what makes it so hard to introduce facts to these people.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:47 PM
Nov 2013

They present a 180º fabrication as if it were common knowledge. To refute fuxheads you have to somehow take them out of the alternate reality they live in. Reshoot and redirect their entire internal movie.

:brickwall:

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
10. So? Ideas to make sure our thoughts on this get more news than this news?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:32 PM
Nov 2013

Seriously. Let's get some ideas generated and executed here and now to give this absurdity more negative attention than Fox's attempt to give ACA negative attention.

Let's do it now. And let's do it fast. And let's make sure it sticks and embarrasses them for months to come.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
19. It's not Rational America that needs convincing
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:50 PM
Nov 2013

Its Fox Viewers, AKA Fox Victims. Many are formerly rational people (AKA my 77 y.o. Dad) who have let propaganda disguised as news convince them to lose the last vestiges of their Empathy.

Fear and slander are powerful manipulators, and the truth is complicated. Hearing, and understanding that one has been blatantly lied to, is impossible for people when their self-image is involved. After all, admitting they believed propaganda means admitting they are dumb.

So much easier to let the dulcet tones slip through one's mind, validating your fears and predjudices, hour after hour.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
13. Its even worse to THEM because they DID NOT implement it..
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:36 AM
Nov 2013

REPUBLICANS are sore losers. Let them cry...

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
14. Bleh. I've learned so much from this ACA thing:
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 02:30 AM
Nov 2013

Our press is very much under the control of money.
It's disgusting and it's scary.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
23. Agreed. But so many others seem to be following suit.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:58 PM
Nov 2013

It gets tough to find which sources are truthful.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
25. You're right. NPR vacillates wildly.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 01:02 PM
Nov 2013

Giving open mics to GOP shills mouthing Talking Points, then today a Kaiser Foundation report on people in CA getting better coverage for less.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
15. This is so sad, just think, Massachusetts has suffered a health care program like ACA for years now
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:07 AM
Nov 2013

Damn you Obama!!

*shakes fist at ceiling*

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
16. ...MacCallum opined. “And you don’t know whether the president is going to be able
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:47 AM
Nov 2013

to successfully dodge it.”

??

Yessiree Bob! President Obama is just searching for a way to escape the public's knowledge of 50 million more Americans with health insurance.

locks

(2,012 posts)
17. At least 135,000 killed in Iraq war
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:19 PM
Nov 2013

Can you even imagine how many lives "have been touched?" Crazies MacCallum and Hume might schedule an interview with a vet who lived through 5 or 6 deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan and ask him about the "horrifying devastation" caused by Obamacare.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
21. But Fox Viewers don't know any Iraqis.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:55 PM
Nov 2013

And they certainly don't know any of the poors in NOLA. They didn't see the bodies, so they don't care.

They're Republicans; its not real unless it happens to them.

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
18. Just keep talkin ...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:25 PM
Nov 2013

The more stupid shit you say, the more people will have their Fox News Moment of Clarity.

Imagine the uninsured Republican guy whose brother was killed in Iraq hearing that.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
24. Do you really believe that?
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 01:00 PM
Nov 2013

I imagine your hypothetical GOP guy would be more likely to never visit the website and see his options, like that Libertarian jackhole in Utah with 10 homeschooled kids on Medicaid.

The fine will be his badge of honor.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
22. Tell that to this Iraqi girl
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:56 PM
Nov 2013


Her family was shot and killed by American troops as they drove their car on
Iraqi roads because the GIs were scared of being car bombed.

Heartless peroxide Fox News blond.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. more republican disrespect to the thousands of Vets, living with the 'devastation' of Iraq war
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 01:10 PM
Nov 2013

I don't understand how anyone could vote R, especially people who have friends, family who are dead or maimed for life because of that stupid bush & buddie$ war.

rock

(13,218 posts)
28. When perfectly sane people spout nothing but insanity
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 02:06 PM
Nov 2013

You can figure their (political) position is completely untenable.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
32. They just conflated * with President Obama.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:02 PM
Nov 2013
“What I keep coming back to in all of this is unlike other issues — Katrina or the Iraq war — that we’ve seen in second term, this is something that touches so many people’s lives across the country,” MacCallum opined. “And you don’t know whether the president is going to be able to successfully dodge it.”

What the Fuck is That? Our President has ended 2 wars, avoided 2 or 3 others, enacted health care that can only get better and put Janet Yellen in charge of the Fed. May they all rot in hell.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
33. "touches so many peoples' lives"
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 07:48 AM
Nov 2013

Well, yeah ... people can't be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition, they can keep their children on their policy until age 26, they have access to good policies at a reasonable price ... that's the gist of their commentary, right?

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
35. In the worlds of Keith Olbermann...
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:36 PM
Nov 2013

That woman is an idiot. Yeah, it "touches so many peoples lives", but they aren't dying from it, like they did in Katrina or the Iraq War. Quite the contrary, you fucking imbecile.

Logic was never the strong suit of these assholes...

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
37. the horror of just SEEING the aftermath of Katrina will stay with me all my life
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:32 PM
Nov 2013

I seriously doubt that Obamacare will cause me that kind of trauma

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