Family Says They Did Tip Gay Server, Didn't Leave Note
Source: NBC New York
After a gay server at a New Jersey restaurant said a customer denied her a tip and wrote her a hateful note on the receipt, a local family contacted NBC 4 New York and said their receipt shows they paid a tip and didn't write any such note.
Dayna Morales, a former Marine and a server at Gallop Asian Bistro in Bridgewater, posted a photo on Facebook earlier this month, showing the bill with a line through the space for a tip. The photo of the receipt showed someone had written, "I'm sorry but I cannot tip because I do not agree with your lifestyle."
Morales indicated in her Facebook post, and in subsequent media interviews -- including with NBC 4 New York -- that the customer wrote that line.
But a family contacted NBC 4 New York claiming their receipt from the restaurant shows they did leave a tip, and provided what they said was a credit card statement as proof.
Read more: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gay-Server-Tip-Lifestyle-Receipt-Discrepancy-233040811.html
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Once about 10 years a gay woman took photos of a anti-gay graffiti sprayed on her house and it turned out she did it herself. I remember there was another one but cant quite remember the specifics.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Charlie Rogers, a 33-year-old lesbian from Lincoln, Nebraska who claimed three men broke into her home and physically scarred her before trying to burn down her house last month, has been accused of faking the attack in hopes it would spark change.
~ snip ~
According to Peschong, police found a pile of clothes, white knit gloves and a red box cutter on the living room floor after the alleged attack. Rogers said the gloves didnt belong to her, but investigators determined that a lot of the DNA found inside the glove was Rogers and that none of it came from a male.
Peschong said investigators discovered that Rogers deleted numerous text messages she had sent the evening of the alleged attack, and that she bought cotton gloves, a box cutter and zip ties from an Ace Hardware Store in Lincoln on July 17. All of the items were later found in her house, he said. When confronted about the evidence weeks later, he said, Rogers admitted to purchasing all of the items except the gloves.
She also sent a photo of a cross-shaped cut on her chest to a friend a few days before the reported attack, Peschong said.
~ snip ~
question everything
(47,476 posts)Just with false rape claim - yes, they happen - such incidents make it harder for real victims to get justice.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)She reported the "Dan" conversation (misunderstanding) to her manager. Then a gay-bashing note appears on the manager's receipt (in handwriting that both the waitress and customer deny is theirs) and the waitress doesn't receive a tip... a tip that, according to the customer's bank statement, clearly was charged to the customer's credit card. Who was in a position to benefit from the disappearing tip AND could have engineered this? The restaurant owner comes to mind. Perhaps the IRS needs to look into this restaurant's books for possible tip withholdings/thefts?
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Many of the cases of waitstaff not being left tips and instead getting nasty notes go viral, someone starts a fundraiser, etc. etc....
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)That was a really poor choice.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)It's sad someone made that decision.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)FranMonet
(57 posts)If you want to tell who's telling the truth check the handwriting of both parties.
DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)They must be the same; otherwise if their credit card statement indicates a higher amount, that would mean a tip was included.
I'd like to see both items now - her copy of the receipt with the writing, and the family's credit card statement to determine where the truth lies.
Since both claim to have them, this is easy to resolve.
ETA - finally got the article up and if they can show that credit card statement with the $111.50 charge to that restaurant for that day, then they are cleared of this. Sounds like the reporters saw the statement. And the restaurant needs to finish its audit and let the public know if they are at all responsible.
I guess all the server needed to do was run another copy of the receipt, roughly copy their sig and add her note to it and get her 15 min of fame, though these frauds only cause harm to others with this crap. I wish she had found a different way to make a statement, as many others manage to do.
I also see she made some cash off this and says she donated a bit of it; I'd also like to see proof of that before I completely write her off as a fraud. Sigh..what a mess.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)I'd be pretty upset after leaving her 20% tip too.
DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)Lasher
(27,579 posts)When I do that I line through the gratuity amount on the merchant copy of the receipt. In that case there is no record of my gratuity, not even on my credit card statement. My point is, your investigation would be inconclusive in my case.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)I want there to be a record of just how much I tipped, when and where. That way, I could never be accused of anything like this.
DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)It will be definitive here, as they claim to have used a credit card, added a tip and have produced a statement showing a higher amount on the date in question.
My point was that in this case, given what the participants say themselves, this shouldn't have to remain a mystery for long.
Lasher
(27,579 posts)Just felt like going hypothetical on this one.
DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)And I've done the same, ie leave the tip in cash. I've thought, perhaps mistakenly, that the server would be certain to get all of my tip that way, if he/she so chose.
But after seeing what a mess it could put me in, I think it is more prudent just to leave a record of it by doing it on my credit card. If this family hadn't done that, we'd still be chewing them out without waiting for more facts.
I know I was growling, as it made me blazing mad. And I should have known to wait until all the easily obtainable facts were in...so now we wait to see for sure.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You know, it COULD be that someone on the waitstaff did that to the server to make fun of her. It might be that both the ostensible victim and the supposed perpetrator(s) were gamed by a third party who doctored a receipt to make it seem like the server was being hated on...?
I am curious, too....
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)I'm willing to bet this was done by someone at the restaurant who hated Morales, and decided to humiliate her. I bet they had no idea how it would escalate.
DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)It shows a charge exactly as they stated, to that restaurant. ($111.55)
http://lezgetreal.com/2013/11/morales-tip-youre-lesbian-story-scam/
My prediction someone is going to be prosecuted for fraud.
DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)one for the $93.55 bill that was run initially and a second transaction for the $18 tip. Wonder why the customer's bank shows just one transaction for the combined total of $111.55?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Mine never does.
It shows one transaction for the whole amount.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)And mine never does that.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)hexola
(4,835 posts)If I go home right after using my debit/credit card at my local pub - my online banking ledger will only show the food/drinks. It takes about 48 hours for the tip to show up...added to the meal total.
But - It still shows as one transaction in the ledger...
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)seems like the restaurant would have figured that out earlier... and certainly can check now
plus the term 'tolerate' appeared to come out of the shadow'd people's mouth more than once... tolerate is not usually a term used by people who are open to others sexuality or other differences.
I'll refrain from judging the supposed truth here but it sounds like something still isn't right here
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Which I presume is why they were picked.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Maybe the seater screwed over the server... and these people (who didn't vote for Chris Christie) are innocent? A little restaurant feud between seater/server, or something? It could be that there's a third party in this scenario....?
hexola
(4,835 posts)If not - that, again, points to someone else on the staff being behind this...
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)and thought they heard "Dan." Happens all the time.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I wouldn't confuse Day-Na and Dan-ah, because they don't sound the same (if her name was Danna, that would be another story of course)--so again, I'm wondering if the person who seated the customers didn't have a grudge against Dayna and decided to fuck with her by feeding the customers a wrong name to hurt Dayna's feelings, and then followed up with a doctored receipt to further jerk her chain.
This one is a mystery, but if the restaurant does a little digging they should be able to figure it out pretty easily.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)I've been in situations where what I have heard was about 0% close to what was actually said. I've also been yelled at by an airport clerk for not saying thank you when I in fact did. You don't have to "accurately" mishear something. People often don't listen carefully (or at all) or don't speak loudly enough.
You could be right about one employee trying to mess with or perhaps actually harm the other. It's a good theory. I'm just positing an additional theory.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Cam for Dan, that "a" sound would stick even if I got the beginning and end of the word wrong. Mishearing Dan for DAY-na just seems, well, unlikely to me.
It's why I am wondering if the seater may have said her name wrong deliberately, just to shit-stir...?
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)If it turns out to be true will there be equal outrage? Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. If the server was lying there should be consequences. It will be interesting to see what happens.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)and a third party thought they could manipulate the situation to their advantage?
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The TV station is bringing in a handwriting expert and the customer is submitting their handwriting and the bill which proves they left a tip.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)"Tolerate", or more properly, tolerence, had a different meaning many years ago.
I saw this story on the news last night, looks like the bank statement backs up their story. They took risks in coming forward, but they didn't want to put themselves in a position of complete vulnerability to activist violence. People around here get pretty scared of that sort of thing.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)That is the best short definition I could come up with.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's a monument to anti-hate efforts wrt the Holocaust and Jewish people.
http://www.museumoftolerance.com/site/c.tmL6KfNVLtH/b.4865925/k.CAD7/HomeMOT.htm
Established in 1993, the MOT has welcomed over five million visitors, mostly middle and high school students. Visitors become witnesses to history and explore the dynamics of bigotry and discrimination that are still embedded in society today. Through interactive exhibits, special events, and customized programs for youths and adults, the Museum engages visitors hearts and minds, while challenging them to assume personal responsibility for positive change.
Perhaps no other institution offers such a motivational mix of historical discovery and personal empowerment.
We invite you to learn about our history and vision, what people are saying about us, and news of current and future projects...
The Southern Poverty Law Center has a program on "teaching tolerance" that has nothing to do with putting up with people:
http://www.tolerance.org/
See? Not about "putting up with" anyone. It is about teaching respect and understanding for people who are outside one's cultural, ethnic, religious or orientation group.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Like I said, "putting up with people you don't like" is a fairly modern definition of the word tolerance.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)1: capacity to endure pain or hardship : endurance, fortitude, stamina
2a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own
2b : the act of allowing something : toleration
3: the allowable deviation from a standard; especially : the range of variation permitted in maintaining a specified dimension in machining a piece
4a (1) : the capacity of the body to endure or become less responsive to a substance (as a drug) or a physiological insult especially with repeated use or exposure <developed a tolerance to painkillers>; also : the immunological state marked by unresponsiveness to a specific antigen (2) : relative capacity of an organism to grow or thrive when subjected to an unfavorable environmental factor
4b : the maximum amount of a pesticide residue that may lawfully remain on or in food
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It seems to me if you LIKE someone or something, that is not tolerance.
MADem
(135,425 posts)....sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own ....
If you are sympathetic to the beliefs/practices of others, you probably aren't hating on them. It's all about respect for differences, not that you are expected to "join the club." That is the definition of Simon Weisenthal, et.al's "tolerance."
Anyone who was sentient in the MLK civil rights era is cognizant of this definition, most certainly--it was a popular usage of the term back then.
DaveJ
(5,023 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Some mean jerk that digs through their wallet and pockets to find exact change might get shitty and snarky and mean under cloak of anonymity, but who in their right mind would, in essence, put their name to hate speech and make their name mud--"Hi, I am John Q. Public, and hetre's what I think of you because of your (insert race/orientation/ethnicity/other personal characteristic)....and eff you, too!"
Makes no damn sense.
Drale
(7,932 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)to forge a bank statement and a customer receipt. that doesn't jibe so well with leaving a nasty note while using a credit card.
which one is it?
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The customer is providing them to the TV station. Further verification could be done by the customer by simply calling the bank and asking the representative to state the amount charged on the day. If the customer is telling the truth, it is easily verifiable.
Plus a TV station is bringing in a hand writing expert. Between those two things that should pretty much lay to rest who did what.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... One or t'other of them is lying. Wouldn't it be a coincidence if BOTH were lying.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Zero recs means it won't be read by nominal readers on DU. I rarely get a chance to get down to reading the Latest page.
The un reviewed news item made the home page more than once as I recall.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Won't SOMEone talk them off the LEDGE!??!?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Do you think it's o'key to falsely accuse people if they are heterosexual?
penultimate
(1,110 posts)jessie04
(1,528 posts)nt
maced666
(771 posts)If you don't believe there are people out there that would do this sort of thing, or similar, look no further.......
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts),maybe for fraud?
jessie04
(1,528 posts)dumb,dumb,dumb
Lucky Luciano
(11,254 posts)It is pretty damning for the waitress. The family in question did have the receipt showing an $18 tip on a $93.55 bill for a total of $111.55. Their CC statement also had the $111.55 charge and the restaurant had no $93.55 charges that night. The report did say that there may have been confusion over her name as the family accidentally thought her name might have been "Dan" instead of "Dayna." maybe that triggered anger in Dayna that caused this mess?
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)If you look at the "5"s, they are very similar.
I'd go by the credit card statement if provided. However, since it seems that the credit card of the family was charged for more...
I'd probably think the customer is right.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Family says they didn't write anything on the receipt. Fives don't look the same.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I'd go with the credit card charges.
Seems the family was charged more than what is written, so I'd go with that.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)and forgets to fill the original. Waiters get mad and blow it up a little to vent on a stiffed tip.
The note and the statement from Visa hard hard to explain away but easy t understand if you ever worked front of the house..
LisaL
(44,973 posts)They have a credit card statement proving the tip was paid.
Bill was 93.55. Their credit card was charged 111.55.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)and authorized the tip to be run. That happened where my daughters work this past week. They have also experienced the no tip at all because the customer takes the wrong copy and never calls back. One of them had this happen with a party of TWENTY a few weeks ago and was quite upset at working an hour keeping a huge table happy only to get 100 percent stiffed because people are careless, stupid, or cheap.
Otherwise something is very wrong here as the tip would not have been run if they did not write it on the merchant copy.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)The family says they paid a tip from the start.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)There is no way for both sets of facts to be true.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)You win.
hexola
(4,835 posts)Then I agree -
But those receipts aren't "facts" - they are evidence...and it's easy to conceive such evidence can exist....
hexola
(4,835 posts)Sometimes management is also careless, stupid or cheap...
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Which this receipt didn't have.
hexola
(4,835 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Parents and their two kids.
MADem
(135,425 posts)One merchant, one customer and one that was just...errr....THERE.
I dunno if they filed the spare somewhere, or what....? Maybe these guys signed that third copy?
whopis01
(3,511 posts)I can't figure out what the heck happened here.
Looking at the two receipts, I would have assumed that they did not leave a tip because the merchant copy is signed and has no tip written in on it. Once the story hit, the customers could have written in a tip on the copy they took home in order to try to cover their asses.
But they have the credit card charge for the right amount, including the tip. But what is confusing is that the signed copy left with the restaurant doesn't have a tip written in - so how did the restaurant know how much to charge them?
So - I believe that the customers did indeed leave a tip - but just can't figure out exactly what happened at the restaurant with the merchant copy of the receipt.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So figure it out.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)If the restaurant automatically charged them a tip. The customers could have looked at their credit card statement and put in the tip themselves on their copy.
Forgot that some restaurants do charge tip automatically. However, those usually need a signature.
You're right that it is odd that the restaurant would have a signed receipt without a tip in there. There is no point in reprinting or recreating one.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)I presume they can't just charge someone without telling them.
Every time I was automatically charged gratuity, it was on the receipt, and I could leave extra.
The whole thing is weird.
I mean, the receipt was not photoshopped right?
If it wasn't, where would the server get that copy? Even if she wrote all of that herself.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Restaurant refused to produce the original to the press, despite claiming they had it.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I don't know. Assuming it was not photoshopped, it is very odd.
I wonder if the restaurant would actually show the receipt, unless they are really that inept in their record keeping.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)to the press, I am not going to assume any such thing.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)I've received 2 copies for myself numerous time. I won't be leaving that extra copy at the restaurant anymore however.
hexola
(4,835 posts)That the server presents the fist bill to the customer...this often has 3 suggested tip amounts at the bottom.
You give the server your money or your debit/credit card.
They run the card...then they bring you the two receipts we see in these pics...
One is for the customer, the other is kept by the Merchant. I guess you are expected to fill each with duplicate info.
At my restaurant...they are identical - except for the word Merchant/Customer.
In the video - the customers seem to have their copy...So perhaps they just forgot to fill out both - or wrote the tip on the first bill - accidentally leaving the merchant copy blank.
B2G
(9,766 posts)How would the tip have been processed?
hexola
(4,835 posts)And note - tips are often run as a separate sub-transaction.
My online bank statement will show the transaction total if I check when I get home - but the tip will get added about 48 hours later...
hexola
(4,835 posts)So - all they need is an amount to run to tip part of the transaction.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)There had to be a second transaction run for just the $18. But the customer's credit card statement shows only ONE transaction for $111.55. How did that happen? The customer should go to their bank and question them about that.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... is just a "will this card pay" query. It does not show up on ANY credit card statement. I have no idea where you got the idea it would.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)It doesn't show as two lines on your credit card statement. It shows as one amount (bill+ tip).
So 93.55 + 18 would show as 111.55. Exactly what they have on credit card statement.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... to pay hundreds if not thousands of restaurant bills, I can assure you that the "will this card pay?" transaction does not appear on any statement, either paper or online.
This is merely a service that CC companies provide restaurants so that they don't find out after you have left that you gave them a declined card.
MADem
(135,425 posts)expenses.
Business travelers need to turn in one receipt to the company and still need one for their personal records.
I have so many receipts when I get back it's ridiculous.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)instead of left on the table. The three receipt thing is a recipe for disaster.
jakesdad
(1 post)POS terminals can reprint in case of misprints, damage (torn, wet, etc).
hate to say this but the simplest explanation is someone (likely her) reprinted the receipt, wrote the note/non-tip total & disposed of the original. not sure if they (POS terminals) log duplicate/reprints but knowing PCI it wouldn't surprise me & if they do that would definitely be the smoking gun. not saying that definitely IS what happened but it's the only logical explanation I can come up with that explains everything... I hope it's not b/c if I'm right then whoever signed the reprint technically committed forgery...
hexola
(4,835 posts)Did Dayna find this at her table? Or did the hostess or manager pick it up (not uncommon) and then show it to her when it was time to tip out?
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)How the restaurant handles billing their customer clearly played a part in all this.
whopis01
(3,511 posts)Though I was surprised that the customers didn't claim that the signature wasn't theirs. Perhaps it was faked (copied from the original) well enough that they couldn't tell?
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)The tops on the '5's on the left are straight, the ones on the left have a curve, and an upward tilt.
The bottoms of the '5's on the left are rounded, while the ones on the right have a hitch in them.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Everyone (self included) sees themselves as the center of the universe. When there is a feature of your life that you see as really important (like sexuality) one sees every interaction with the universe as touching upon that important thing in your life. Very religious people are like that - they see every sunset as a sign from god that he loves them.
Anyway, many people want to seem brave, to put upon, etc. etc. So it seems with this person.
Or she is just a greedy fuck.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)You can see who is lying...
BUSTED!
hexola
(4,835 posts)Managers...not standing behind the customer!??? Even accusing the customers of making it up!!!?
Be careful here - we are taking the bait if we assume Dayna set this up...
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Dayna would be one bringing the receipt to the customer and then collecting it. Not her managers.
hexola
(4,835 posts)...and then they are rung in by the bartender/manager...who tips-out the wait staff.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I worked as a server in a restaurant and we pooled our tips and split them. The place was pretty busy on a constant basis so it wasn't like one person had it easier than the others. It wasn't unusual for two people to take care of a large party, as needed.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Can they screw their staff on tips?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Tho Dayna seemed to prevaricate a little too.
Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #77)
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hexola
(4,835 posts)of Dayna...like you might have between co-workers...
...a slip up?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)It implies a lot a familiarity.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Especially since Dayna said she reported the "Dan" conversation to, wait for it... the MANAGER. I'd say the IRS should get ready to go through this restaurant's books looking for possible amounts that appear to be tips stolen from employees.
What is strange is that both receipts show the card was initially run for $93.55. The customer then signs the receipt and authorizes an additional $18 charge for the tip. The combined total of $111.55 is listed on their credit card statement as one transaction, though. That leaves two questions unanswered: Where is the restaurant's merchant receipt for the $18 tip, and Why didn't the customer's bank show both the tip and total as two transactions, which they clearly have to be for this whole scenario to work.
If the customers can get the second transaction number from their bank, they can show Dayna that her tip was stolen. Both of these people then can go after the restaurant for theft and libel and the government could go after it for tax evasion, theft and fraud.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Not only are tips (money) being stolen, but statements are being made that make the customer look homophobic (liable). Both the customer and the employee would deserve an apology in that case. Not only close down the restaurant, but throw them in jail.
MADem
(135,425 posts)you add the tip, sign the thing, grab your copy, and leave... and they THEN add it up and send it in to the credit card people. The first bit, where they run the card, is to make sure you're good for it.
The difference between the food cost and the total goes to the server.
If you look at your statements, you'll see there's always one transaction amount at places where you tip. Never two.
If the customers' paperwork and bill holds up to scrutiny, it's likely they are off the hook. So that leaves either the server making the story up, or someone in the restaurant with a grudge against the server doctoring that receipt to mess with her.
hexola
(4,835 posts)If I go home right after eating out - and check my ledger...It will show the bill - NO TIP...48 hours later - magically, the tip appears in the total. So - despite seeing 1 transaction...it is a 2 part processing.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I am not saying it is impossible, I am simply saying I have never seen such a thing.
I think it's salient to note that there are only two people who can access the machine to forward the information to the credit card company or print a copy of that particular bill--that would be the server who created the bill, or the manager.
There are times when an extra copy of the bill is needed--the customer is a little drunk and messes the tip part up, or someone spills wine on the thing and makes it unreadable; and the server has to key in a code, or use a card, to access the print-out. And the server (or the manager) could indeed print more than one receipt.
If I were guessing, here, I'd guess that someone printed out an extra receipt, and used it to cause a little chaos.
In any event, the customers have produced a copy of their bank statement. That matches their customer copy of the bill for the date in question. I think they are off the hook, so now, it's down to someone in the restaurant other than the server, or the server herself.
On the facebook page cited in this thread, someone posted that the server had been suspended from working while an investigation was underway. That doesn't look too promising for her but we'll just have to wait and see how this shakes out.
hexola
(4,835 posts)Now read the note - and think of that accent...
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Are you saying that is somehow nefarious?
randome
(34,845 posts)The note sounds too much like some victimology screed and she certainly promoted the hell out of it.
But first impressions are rarely right so...
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
hexola
(4,835 posts)I think something else is going on here...
randome
(34,845 posts)I'm just guessing, nothing more than that.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
warrior1
(12,325 posts)That is clear.
geek_sabre
(731 posts)it is not the same handwriting as the customer copy. It even appears to be written with a different pen.
Even so, the credit card statement agrees with the customer copy. So the possibilities are:
- they stiffed her, and in retaliation she wrote in a tip anyway (fraud - customer's a dick, but she stole)
- they tipped her, and for some reason she decided to lie anyway for attention/money (fraud - customer's innocent, she's a dick)
- they tipped her, and a coworker/manager wrote the note, and pocketed her tip (customer/waitress innocent, dick tbd)
The fact that the restaurant refuses to turn over the original copy or their records suggests either they knew she was lying already, or they're guilty as sin.
hexola
(4,835 posts)I favor scenario #3...
In the video - she seems honest to me...and furthermore - the customers seem like the last people to express this kind of hate.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)As I said above, if it is true then it is a scam against multiple people.
cali
(114,904 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Plus there is no reason for any server to take a picture of customer receipts in the first place.
hexola
(4,835 posts)They accused the customer of making it up...
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)server.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Hosnon
(7,800 posts)Otherwise, she's just another "backwards 'B'" numbskull.
The fight is real folks, no need to make it up.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Just tuck it away to reconcile online later. Is that normal?
hexola
(4,835 posts)...until a few days later...which gets confusing!!!
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)But both receipts (merchant and customer) have only $93.55 printed on them next to the date near what is probably the customer's blurred out/blacked-out credit card number. If the tip and the total were run as two transactions, shouldn't there have been a separate merchant receipt with a separate credit card transaction number for the tip? That would explain how the waitress got hold of a merchant receipt showing the food total but no tip, but doesn't explain why there is only one transaction on the customer's card statement.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)I have no clue how it's done, but that how it shows.
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)They put a hold on the card for the amount of the bill, but only later when they settle the transactions do they add the tip in and then charge the total amount. Your card has not been charged yet when they bring the receipt back to you, they've just run it to see if you have enough on the card.
That's why sometimes you can't use those pre-paid cards or Visa gift cards and such in restaurants. Or if you can, you have to have like at least 130% of the bill (or whatever the chosen number is) available on it.
It's so they don't get stiffed on the tip.
If you have 100 dollar Visa gift card lets say, and you run up a bill of $98, the bill would go though, and then you could write in a $20 tip on the receipt and when they tried to charge it, the card would decline.
Most regular debit cards will just overdraw your account if you do that, so the restaurant still gets paid.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Usually I put both, but sometimes just the total.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Photoshop strikes again!
SaltyBro
(198 posts)that Ms. Morales allegedly faked having cancer not too long ago. She may just be a run-of-the-mill con artist.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)This brings in new accusations and would be interesting to see how creditable they are. I'm not familiar with the publication.
It always helps to provide a link!
Welcome to DU!
"Morales has been caught in multiple lies, telling co-workers she shaved her head because she had brain cancer and later telling them it was her friend who had brain cancer, her colleagues and friends said."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/26/waitress-no-tip-hoax/3761565/
kristopher
(29,798 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)these people are either lying or tried to cover up after the fact. NEVER trust a bigot 100%, ladies and gentlemen.....verify first, and thoroughly.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Considering these people didn't have to come forward at all if they had anything to cover up.
WTF would they?
hexola
(4,835 posts)because he doesn't support gay marriage...hardly the bigot type IMO.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)WTF would they?
While it's not common, some bigots these days will go to absurd lengths to hide their true feelings.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Some brought up the possibility of a third person being involved. I think the theory could be possible.
I don't know much anymore about printing CC receipts because I've been out of the retail industry (or any industry having to do with credit cards) for over a decade since I live overseas. I'm sure the technology has changed quite a bit.
It sounds like the TV station is bringing in a handwriting expert and checking the customer's bill. If those are inconclusive, it may put pressure on the restaurant to release the records.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Backwards "B" on her face.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)but...
There is no indication of combat service in Iraq or Afghanistan, he added in a follow-up email.
She also lied about having brain cancer and hurricane damage to her home.
This woman evidently has issues.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They said she also told co-workers at a day care center where she once worked that Superstorm Sandy severely damaged her home in Stony Point, and sent a boat into her living room. Concerned co-workers dropped by her home and found only minor damage to the carpet by her front door and no sign of a boat, they said.
Every story she comes up with has a lie, said Julie Howat, 23, of Pomona....High school acquaintances and former colleagues of Morales said the revelations confirmed their suspicions about Morales original story. In the past, Morales has sought sympathy from friends and co-workers through questionable stories, Howat said.
Any tragedy that happened, she had to be a part of it, Howat said. She needed sympathy and empathy.
But this case has enraged Howat because people from all over the world were sending Morales money after hearing the story...
http://www.lohud.com/article/20131126/NEWS/311260034/Waitress-tip-tale-former-Stony-Point-resident-lies-about-everything-former-co-workers-friends-say?nclick_check=1
Not looking good at all for the server at this stage.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)in this case are a slap in the face to people who really do experience discrimination. And lying about being in combat never goes over well with veterans or their families.
If this ends up in front of a judge, I hope he/she orders Ms. Morales to get therapy.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Apparently - if we believe the reports, and it's looking like we have no reason to not believe them - she's been doing this sort of thing for many years, now, since her school days. She does need help; not sure if that kind of thing can be fixed, though.
randome
(34,845 posts)That's important to keep in mind, too.
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bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)Server Dayna Morales has been suspended by her Bridgewater restaurant employers pending completion of their investigation of allegations that she falsified a story about a customer leaving her an anti-gay message in lieu of a tip.
"Ms. Morales is currently not on our employee schedule while we are still working to complete our investigation," the Gallop Asian Bistro restaurant posted on its Facebook page.
http://nj1015.com/dayna-morales-suspended-from-bridgewater-restaurant/
Dr. Strange
(25,920 posts)After the story of a lesbian, ex-Marine waitress who claimed she was left an anti-gay note in place of a tip caught worldwide attention, she promised she'd donate the replacement "tips" she started receiving from supporters to the Wounded Warrior Project.
But the organization, which supports injured service members, couldn't verify it had yet received any donations from Dayna Morales, who has been off the schedule at Gallop Asian Bistro since a couple claimed the note was a fake, Patch reports.
http://www.nj.com/somerset/index.ssf/2013/12/gay_waitress_donations_marines_service_questioned_as_investigation_continues.html
I don't get this comment from the article:
What exactly is complex? How hard is it to check the charges from that night and see if it was 93.55 or 111.55?