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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:34 PM Nov 2013

George Zimmerman had five guns when arrested: police

Source: NBC News

George Zimmerman possessed five guns — including an AR-15-type rifle — when he was arrested last week and accused of pointing one of the weapons at his girlfriend, according to documents released by police.

The other firearms included a Keltec shotgun and three handguns, and Zimmerman also had 127 rounds of ammunition for the weapons, the papers say.

Zimmerman — who was acquitted over the summer of second-degree murder in the shooting of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin — was arrested Nov. 18 and charged with aggravated assault after a confrontation with Samantha Scheibe at a home in Apopka, Fla.

He was released on $9,000 bond and told he could not have any firearms. He entered a written plea of not guilty, and his former lawyers said last week that they expected he would be cleared of any criminal wrongdoing.

Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21627985-george-zimmerman-had-five-guns-when-arrested-police



Pretty good stockpile for a guy who's 'broke.'

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George Zimmerman had five guns when arrested: police (Original Post) onehandle Nov 2013 OP
Ah yes, indeed a different 'vision' of the American Dream left on green only Nov 2013 #1
That's not too bad, considering I think some folks carry that many to go to grocery store. Hoyt Nov 2013 #2
Of course Roy Rolling Nov 2013 #18
I have more guns than him and I haven't murdered anyone doc03 Nov 2013 #3
The USA is a pretty scary place Bandit Nov 2013 #5
I guess congratulations are in order... um...., I guess... AAO Nov 2013 #6
NRA types considered Zman a "responsible" gun owner right up until he pulled the trigger. Hoyt Nov 2013 #11
Oh come on, Moses2SandyKoufax Nov 2013 #31
Sorry, left that part out. Hoyt Nov 2013 #37
Sounds like great copy for a bumper sticker... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #12
Well, then you and your situation are not the same. You did realize this was about Zimmy, not you uppityperson Nov 2013 #19
Okay. crim son Nov 2013 #20
Please tell us where they are tblue Nov 2013 #29
Great post tblue. LeftOfWest Nov 2013 #49
He may yet become the poster child for gun legislation. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #4
Justice was denied to Trayvon Martin and his family. Fired Pilgrim Nov 2013 #7
For me the question is, crim son Nov 2013 #23
Welcome to DU! reflection Nov 2013 #32
He will eventually receive justice.....it is just a matter of time.... Swede Atlanta Nov 2013 #35
he is a gun humping murdering COWARD Skittles Nov 2013 #8
The article said "and that he had threatened suicide." tofuandbeer Nov 2013 #9
He's lying. He's a manipulator. His call to 911 showed his schtick in progress. onehandle Nov 2013 #22
+1 tofuandbeer Nov 2013 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #36
Zimmerman's Condition Will Only Worsen DallasNE Nov 2013 #10
Somewhere out there, there is someone lobodons Nov 2013 #13
Ok, lets do the checklist..... SummerSnow Nov 2013 #14
5. a killer tblue Nov 2013 #28
and, althought maybe not significant to the list, he is also an adulterer. his relationship with niyad Nov 2013 #41
I don't wish violence on anyone mikeysnot Nov 2013 #15
I guess he figures if 4 is good, 5 must be better! 7962 Nov 2013 #16
Just how many guns does someone need? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #17
Amen! dawn frenzy adams Nov 2013 #24
Amen! Especially this guy. tblue Nov 2013 #27
I was going to crack wise, but this guy was seriously armed. There is a problem here, serious bad... marble falls Nov 2013 #21
A descent into paranoia. Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #25
He needs to be treated like they do sex offenders tblue Nov 2013 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #30
Only 5? How unmanly. valerief Nov 2013 #34
Is that shotgun legal? another_liberal Nov 2013 #38
It is a bullpup design hack89 Nov 2013 #40
One thing is certain . . . another_liberal Nov 2013 #45
Why not? hack89 Nov 2013 #47
Looks like a weapon designed for close quarters action. another_liberal Nov 2013 #50
"Looks" - gun control logic in a nutshell hack89 Nov 2013 #51
OK, hack. another_liberal Nov 2013 #53
And I have yours hack89 Nov 2013 #55
Same back at you. another_liberal Nov 2013 #57
I am a multi-purpose wise ass hack89 Nov 2013 #60
Yeah . . . another_liberal Nov 2013 #61
Small world. hack89 Nov 2013 #63
It is a home defense weapon... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #64
Yep, Zman was given royal treatment by manufacturer shortly after jury endorsed open season on Hoyt Nov 2013 #44
Hard to believe. another_liberal Nov 2013 #46
You want to ban pump action shotguns? Nt hack89 Nov 2013 #48
This gun is designed to kill people at close range. another_liberal Nov 2013 #52
The barrel is a legal length based on a 80 year old law. hack89 Nov 2013 #54
The overall design gives you the same freedom of movement as a sawed-off barrel. another_liberal Nov 2013 #56
Overal weapon length is regulated by that same 80 year law hack89 Nov 2013 #58
Links to what? another_liberal Nov 2013 #59
Of course they should be illegal hack89 Nov 2013 #62
I can't believe you got away with the BS argument. U4ikLefty Nov 2013 #65
Ditto. I follow one of these threads that every now and then escape to LBN or GD n/t libdem4life Nov 2013 #66
What BS argument? That the gun is perfectly legal according to US law? hack89 Nov 2013 #67
Crazy "collection." blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #39
may he, and all his supporters, enablers, cheerleaders, etc., receive everything they deserve. niyad Nov 2013 #42
The guy is a menace to society davidpdx Nov 2013 #43

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
1. Ah yes, indeed a different 'vision' of the American Dream
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:43 PM
Nov 2013

Happiness is a warm gun - John Lennon

(for the irony impaired)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. That's not too bad, considering I think some folks carry that many to go to grocery store.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:46 PM
Nov 2013

The one Zimmy used to bolster his courage to stalk/bully/murder Trayvon Martin, was one too many.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
5. The USA is a pretty scary place
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:05 PM
Nov 2013

Most people that have many guns are afraid. They feel they need protection... I feel sorry for them because their life can not be very pleasant living with such fear.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. NRA types considered Zman a "responsible" gun owner right up until he pulled the trigger.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

Same for Lanza, Holmes, Loughner, etc.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)
31. Oh come on,
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:42 PM
Nov 2013

There were (and still unfortunately, ARE) MANY NRA types who considered Zimmerman a "responsible" gun owner long after he pulled the trigger. The only reason some of these people are having reservations about his character now, is because he got violent with a white person.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Sounds like great copy for a bumper sticker...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

Sounds like great copy for a bumper sticker, or maybe a Hallmark card...

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
19. Well, then you and your situation are not the same. You did realize this was about Zimmy, not you
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:01 PM
Nov 2013

crim son

(27,464 posts)
20. Okay.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:04 PM
Nov 2013

So based on who you are and how many guns you own, do you believe Z should be permitted to own five guns? What makes a person eligible or ineligible? Also, how are more than five useful, i.e. if you were permitted only one would the quality of your life be negatively affected?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
4. He may yet become the poster child for gun legislation.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:54 PM
Nov 2013

Those who supported him through the Trayvon Martin trial and may still support him over his confrontations with the women in his life, are going to be dumped into the same stinking hole that he's in right now. So be it.

Fired Pilgrim

(5 posts)
7. Justice was denied to Trayvon Martin and his family.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:23 PM
Nov 2013

I sincerely hope Trayvon's killer, Zimmerman, eventually receives justice. Most importantly, before it costs another innocent life to be lost. Zimmerman obviously has some anger issues that should preclude him from ever handling a deadly firearm.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
23. For me the question is,
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:07 PM
Nov 2013

do we have to wait until somebody gets accused of murder or other violent crimes before we can remove their guns? Because by then it's too late.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
35. He will eventually receive justice.....it is just a matter of time....
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:13 PM
Nov 2013

Look at OJ Simpson. I think most rational individuals believe he was responsible for the murder of his lovely wife and her friend Ron Goldman. He had a dream defense team and a trial that became a circus, totally unmanaged by judge Ito.

He got away with murder. He felt emboldened as if he was made of teflon. He had numerous altercations when he moved to Florida after the civil case awarded the Goldman family millions. He declared bankruptcy but knew Florida allows an unlimited homestead exemption.

Regardless of the circumstances that brought him to that Las Vegas hotel that night, the facts are that he went with the intent to use violence to "retrieve" some personal property.

This time he didn't have the dream defense team and the judge managed the courtroom. Justice was served and was sentenced to what will amount to the rest of his life. I recently heard he was hoping for a new trial.

As it was with OJ so to I think it will be with Zimmerman. Unfortunately I fear there will be more violence that results in harm or death before he is ultimately stopped.

I wish I had more confidence in the Florida justice system. It seems they are very effective at incarcerating for minor drug offenses but not for capital murder or threatening to use violence on another.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
9. The article said "and that he had threatened suicide."
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:24 PM
Nov 2013

I hadn't thought about that. Maybe the fact that he murdered a child is eating away at him...then again, probably not. It's probably that he owes more than he will ever be able to pay back.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
22. He's lying. He's a manipulator. His call to 911 showed his schtick in progress.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:07 PM
Nov 2013

He's mastered the art of being a victim.

Response to tofuandbeer (Reply #9)

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
10. Zimmerman's Condition Will Only Worsen
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

So at some point authorities will have to come to grips with the danger Zimmerman presents to an open society. The challenge will be to act before someone gets hurt seriously rather than after the fact. He has little regard for life.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
13. Somewhere out there, there is someone
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:38 PM
Nov 2013

Somewhere out there, there is someone who will die at the hands of Zimmerman.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
14. Ok, lets do the checklist.....
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:39 PM
Nov 2013

Zimmerman is

1. dangerous
2. a meglomaniac
3. violent
4. abusive


recipe for another disaster

niyad

(113,235 posts)
41. and, althought maybe not significant to the list, he is also an adulterer. his relationship with
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:05 PM
Nov 2013

this scheibe woman has been ongoing since before he was married, and they began an actual affair before he murdered trayvon. so, in addition to his other "sterling" qualities, he is an oathbreaker, an adulterer.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
15. I don't wish violence on anyone
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:43 PM
Nov 2013

but I will not shed a tear if this guy is a victim of his own second amendment remadies....

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
21. I was going to crack wise, but this guy was seriously armed. There is a problem here, serious bad...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:05 PM
Nov 2013

bad, bad mojo here. This guys going to get armed again and again until there's a really, really bad ending.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
26. He needs to be treated like they do sex offenders
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:32 PM
Nov 2013

The public should be informed when he moves into the neighborhood. I would not want him anywhere near me or mine.

Response to onehandle (Original post)

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
38. Is that shotgun legal?
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:37 PM
Nov 2013

That looks like a very short barrel, and there is a good reason why "sawed-off shotguns" are not legal.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
45. One thing is certain . . .
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:16 PM
Nov 2013

This is a man-killing weapon. There is no way this shotgun goes on a rabbit hunt.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
47. Why not?
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:24 PM
Nov 2013

Why does a modern ergonomic design make it unsuitable for hunting rabbits?

This fixation on how guns look while ignoring how they actually function has always puzzled me.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
50. Looks like a weapon designed for close quarters action.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:35 PM
Nov 2013

Unless your rabbit is sitting right at your feet, a long arm style shotgun is likely to be much more useful.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
51. "Looks" - gun control logic in a nutshell
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:40 PM
Nov 2013

Have you ever hunted in dense brush? Compact weapons come in very handy.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
53. OK, hack.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:47 PM
Nov 2013

Now I've got your number.

BTW: Yes, I used to do a good deal of hunting of various kinds. I'm currently not nearly as bloodthirsty as I was back then. I prefer to watch wild creatures, and try to learn from them.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
55. And I have yours
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:57 PM
Nov 2013

Another Fudd unable to wrap their mind around how modern weapons look even though they function the same as "traditional" designs.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
60. I am a multi-purpose wise ass
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:10 PM
Nov 2013

Poor, emotionally driven "logic" brings out the worse in me. Nothing personal.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
64. It is a home defense weapon...
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:52 PM
Nov 2013

...the bullpup configuration makes it easier to wield in tight quarters (like a hallway), but it isn't so small you can hide it in plain sight like you can the .380.

I find the pistols more concerning, to be honest.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
44. Yep, Zman was given royal treatment by manufacturer shortly after jury endorsed open season on
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 01:12 AM
Nov 2013

unarmed Black teens. Factory tour, and I think they may have given him the shotgun.

Gun manufacturers/profiteers love murdering bigots, good for business.

One of first places Zimmy went after acquital from murdering Martin.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
46. Hard to believe.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:19 PM
Nov 2013

That thing is clearly only for killing human beings. The loophole in our laws which allows it to be sold as a shotgun should be closed.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
52. This gun is designed to kill people at close range.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:41 PM
Nov 2013

The pump-action function has no special bearing on that. A cut-down double barrel will do much the same kind of damage.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
56. The overall design gives you the same freedom of movement as a sawed-off barrel.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:01 PM
Nov 2013

It is for close range man-killing, period. It should not be legally sold as a shotgun. In fact, it should not be sold to the general public at all.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
58. Overal weapon length is regulated by that same 80 year law
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:07 PM
Nov 2013

In 80 years there must be thousands of examples of how weapons of similar length have massacred millions of innocent people. Can you share your links?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
62. Of course they should be illegal
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:14 PM
Nov 2013

While guns that meet all federal laws regarding barrel and overal length should be legal . Isn't that why we have laws in the first place? An 18.5" barrel is not sawn off by any objective standard.

We have had a law that has worked fine for 80 years. A law that the company that made this gun followed.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
67. What BS argument? That the gun is perfectly legal according to US law?
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:32 AM
Nov 2013

can't help it if I take the time to understand the laws instead of resorting to knee jerk emotional arguments.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
43. The guy is a menace to society
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 12:31 AM
Nov 2013

If he keeps getting off on these charges one has to wonder when he'll do more damage then killing a kid or beating people.

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